T410/T510 DisplayPort features audio!!

After calling with a member of the lenovo sales team, i have an important news for many interests i think:
The new Thinkpad T-series will not transport audio signals through the DisplayPort to get digital audio on a television through an HDMI adapter. Were there not enough of annoyed users of the T/W500 or is it because of the early closing the concerning thread? I think this is a
@Lenovo: Why is digital audio transport not possible one more time? I thought Calpella should make things better with native DP-support!?
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Actually, since the T510 doesn't have any other real method of outputting digital/surround audio, a request of audio through DisplayPort is pretty reasonable.
Otherwise, you pretty much have a 2010 laptop that is stuck with 1990-level audio technology.
(Before the nitpickers start with the USB audio solutions - other Lenovo laptops, which are cheaper, can output digital audio through HDMI without any third party support. Going up in product levels shouldn't mean giving up basic features.)
And I also agree with the 16:9 debate - the T and W series are supposed to be a bit more expensive to give the features that people want in a sturdy, functional business laptop. If it costs $50 more to stuff a 16:10 panel into the higher-end T and W series, why not do that instead of limiting everything down to a 16:9 panel?
Considering most widescreen monitors are already vertically challenged, the drop from 1050 to 900 means giving up another 14.3%, or 25% compared to a 4:3 equivalent (1,600 x 1,200).
EDIT: My bad - I forgot that we lost both vertical and horizontal resolution - 1,600 x 900 vs. 1,680 x 1,050. Pixel lost is about 18.4%. Horizontally, it's a lost of about 4.8%. Now I'm really having reservations about this generation of T- and W-series.
Then again, with the current economic market, I doubt manufacturers are really going to listen to the whinings of their customers. Making all these changes (including the removal of the top cage) probably pushes the T-series down into a price range that Lenovo thinks will make it more mainstream. Along with the reputation of the T-series, they probably hope that it will drive up sales - which will compensate for any lost sales from pickier consumers.

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T410s/T410/T510 DP- HDMI, audio questions, survey

Hi,
after all the confusion concerning DisplayPort-audio and the T-series, I decided to find out for myself and test it at my local Lenovo dealer.
As my dealer had not a single HDMI and audio capable output device in his shop, I brought my own Medion MD 20226 LCD TV, which has 2 HDMI-in ports.
The idea was to use a 2m DisplayPort->HDMI-cable provided by the dealer in order to connect the T410s in question to my little TV.
Background: Due to the misleading information from Lenovo concerning the last generation T400s/T400/T500 models and their audio over DisplayPort issue (no audio at all), I expected to get a picture without any problems but that I would need to figure out how to enable the sound by changing some settings inside Windows 7.
What happened: Actually neither me nor my dealer were able to get ANYTHING out of the DisplayPort, when using the DisplayPort->HDMI-cable. There was NEITHER video NOR audio!
I should point out that at the time being my dealer only had T410s models without the (maybe) switchable NVidia graphics.
Another point that I want to emphasize is that, after 45 minutes of trying everything we could to make it work, we switched to the T510 that was standing right beside the T410s in his show room. Unfortunately I was too confused to ask what kind of graphics setup this machine had, but the result was the same: no video, no audio at the TV.
As it is apparent that there are quite a lot of confused Lenovo customers out there that have similar questions:
I HEREBY FORMALLY ASK FOR A DETAILED AND IN-DEPTH INVESTIGATION/CLARIFICATION OF POSSIBLE DP->HDMI, DP-AUDIO AND DP->HDMI-AUDIO ISSUES WITH THE CURRENT T410s/T410/T510 SERIES (all combinations of graphics cards).
Of course I think that it would be best if one of the Lenovo engineers would take care of that in one of the Lenovo blogs.
But until then, it might be a good starting point to ask those of us, who already have a T410s/T410/T510.
So I just start right away:
MODEL:                   T410s (NUK39GE / 2912-39G)
used GPU:              Intel GMA 5 / QM57
DP->DP-video:       not tested
DP->DP-audio:      not tested
DP->HDMI-video: tested->not working
DP->HDMI-audio: tested->not working
As I said, I was only able to test it at my local Lenovo dealer and I gave up after around 1 hour of testing. So it might be, that someone who has more time and resources (different adaptors) might be able to get it running.
So to all of you out there with a new Tx10(s), please take the time, find your next HDMI-TV and try it.
And to Lenovo: as long as there is no official statement concerning this, I will keep asking for an official response ;-) (and THIS time, don't blame the chipset, as the new Intel-Calpella has all the HD-video/audio goodness one could ask for: wiki article on Intel Calpella and its DP features).
Thanks for reading all this!

Hello all,
please check out this thread too.
Where Ken (Lenovo staff) explains this feature and possible problems.
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Kanex MIni DisplayPort+USB Audio to HDMI Adapter --NO SOUND

Hi,
I just purchased a Kanex Mini DisplayPort+USB Audio to HDMI Adapter for my new Samsung flat screen so I could watch netflix movies. The guy at Tekserve (NYC based authorized dealer) said it's really cool b/c it's audio and video all in one. Two cables are attached to a small box on one side and on the other side of the box is for the HDMI cable which goes to the TV (most of you prpbably already know this) .
The two attached cables fit into the the USB (audio) + mini display port. The video works great, but no sound. I called Apple for tech support and we tried a few things like changing the sound output to USB, but no luck.
I can call Tekserve on Monday, but would love to figure this out before then for the week-end.
Thanks everyone for your help.
Mary

There are actually 2 different Mini Display port to HDMI adapters from Kanex. One supports 2 channel audio through the USB audio out cable, which is the one you have Mary. The other one with the extra audio plug cable supports 5.1 digital audio.
http://kanexlive.com/products/item.aspx?id=3323
http://kanexlive.com/products/item.aspx?id=3495
I don't have either of these adapters but I would think that you "should" be able to go into your System Preferences under Sound. If the USB plug from the adapter is plugged into your MacBook, then it should show up in the output window in the Sound preferences which you would then choose instead of outputting the sound to the built-in MacBook speakers.
At the bottom of the product description page of the adapter that you have (the USB 2.0 version), it says this:
+Sound Output setting on Macs must be changed to "USB Sound Device/USB Type" to have the adapter operating correctly.+*
Let us know if you get it working properly. I'm considering getting one also.
Sorry.... I just re-read your initial post and it sounds like you already DID try switching the sound output to USB with no luck. The only other thing I can think of is the adapter might be bad and maybe exchange it for another one from where you purchased it. Or you could maybe exchange it for the 5.1 digital audio out version. Although it sounds like your sound is going directly into the tv via HDMI and not a surround sound receiver.
Kanex does have tech support and contact links on their web page. Maybe you should email them directly about your problem. Unfortunately I'm sure you'll have to wait til sometime during the work week to get a reply back.

Simultanious audio output from both mini Displayport and Audio Output port?

Hey guys,
I was wondering if someone who already has audio+video output through the mini displayport set up can be so kind and answer the following questions for me:
Can audio be output simultaniously from 3.5mm audio port as well as the mini displayport? That is, if I output both video and audio to my reciever through the 2010 iMac's mini Diplayport, can i use the standard audio output port to provide line input for a further set of (active) speakers (analog would be fine)?
In the case both outputs CANNOT work simultaniously, which one will work if i have both plugged in? If the mini displayport has higher rank (or priority or what whatever i should call the one that works when both outputs are plugged in), and the reciever it is plugged into is switched off, will audio automatically switch to the standard audio port? Same question goes if the standard audio output port has higher rank/priority?
Many thanks in advance!
Just in case you are wondering why the heck i would wanna do that, here's some background:
I am planning on setting up my new 27' iMac on a 'work' desk in my bedroom, where i can comfortably sit and work on the computer as well as use the beautiful screen as my bedroom TV. Since i also wanna use my mac for all my living room multimedia needs (movies, tv shows, music, etc), i plan on running a long (15m) audio+video HDMI cable all the way up to my reciever in my living room. Furthermore, i am also planning on running a USB cable to the living room (through something of this sort: http://www.coolgear.com/images/171632pro.jpg) plugged in to a usb hub mainly for mouse/keyboard availability in the living room, but also for other things such as external hard drives and so on. The problem is that, apart from having my audio play in the living room, i also want to provide line input to my reference monitors that will be located at the iMac desk and i obviously much prefer i get the line input directly from the mac rather than running a third cable from reciever back to the speakers.
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Anyone?
Is that so few people are using the new mini displayport for audio, or did i ask the wrong way?
Help will be greatly appriciated as i need this info in order to plan my purchases!

Adding FDE drives to T410/T510

Hi all,
I have a need for a laptop sharpish, and would like a Lenovo with an FDE disk. I can't afford to wait for the customise-and-buy option, though, and can't find one with FDE through a reseller, so I'll have to buy one without and swap the disk. So, a couple of questions:
1) Do all Lenovo T410/T510 laptops support FDE disks?
2) If yes, is it only particular brands (i.e. the Hitachi)?
I've read through the service manuals and *suspect* the answer to 1) is yes, but have got nowhere with 2). Any help would be greatly appreciated...
Simon
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Your usual choices in self-encrypting hard drives are Hitachi BDE (Bulk Data Encryption), Seagate FDE (Full Disk Encryption) and Toshiba (formerly Fujitsu) SED (Self-Encrypting Drive). I believe Hitachi and Seagate use AES-128 while Toshiba uses AES-256. I don't believe there's any practical difference between the two unless you have a client that wants you to use the latter.
As far as I can tell, this Lenovo 250GB FDE Hard Drive (Google UK Shopping Search) is in fact a Toshiba. See here and here. Also, it comes with a hard drive caddy, so you don't have to switch one out. It is SATA 1.5, but a lot of self-encrypting drives are and since it's a hard drive, it isn't going to matter anyway. It would be my first choice if the capacity meets your requirements.
Hope this helps.

Does displayport feature digital audio now?

The major drawback with my current T400s was the lack of any digital audio output, no HDMI, no optical, no nothing? All we've got was the displayport, not able to passthrough any kind of audio streams!
Back then I was told that the new Intel chipset coming along with their clarksdale and arrandale CPUs (aka the xM55 / xM57 chipsets) would feature the possibility of 8-channel passthrough audio on the displayport?
So with a Displayport --> HDMI adapter you could finally get some audio passage! Hurray!
But I have yet to see anyone actually confirming this? Have anyone seen any statement or test on this?

Yes, I tried it out on my new w510 and it works great. You have to do things in the right order. First connect the Displayport adapter and HDMI cable between your w510 and your TV. Then go to Windows7 Control Panel -> Hardware and Sound -> manage audio devices. Right-click your TV/monitor, which should appear in the list, and choose "Set as default device." The sound should pop out of your TV. Make sure you have the TV set to take its audio input from HDMI.

Does my mid 2010 macbook pro's displayport support audio (in addition to the video I know it supports)?

I have been using my displayport to drive a video only HDMI input by way of a displayport to DVI converter followed by a DVI to HDMI converter. It works great but of course there's no audio at the end of that chain because DVI is a video only connector.
That made me wonder... is my displayport outputting both audio and video which could be converted directly to HDMI (giving me both audio and video at the HDMI end)? How can I tell if my mid-2010 macbook pro's displayport connector is outputting both audio and video? My internet search is inconclusive about whether both are available on that connector for my mid 2010 model macbook pro.
Thank you.

Hi, these MacBooks of 2010 support Audio through display port:
MacBook Mid 2010 (GeForce 320M)
MacBook Air 11 inch 2010 or 13 inch 2010 (Core 2 Duo)
MacBook Pro 13 inch 2010 (GeForce 320M)
MacBook Pro 15 inch 2010 or 17 inch 2010 (GeForce 330M),
No 2009 Macs support audio through DisplayPort
All 2011 and latter Macs support displayPort audio
so it looks like you can get audio if yo have the Macbook with Geforce 320M

Mini DisplayPort No Audio!

I just purchased this » http://www.amazon.com/Premium-High-Speed-inch-DisplayPort-Cable/dp/B005J5ZBJG. I just hooked it up and have no audio, i wanted to see if anyone could help me out on whether or not it is capable of outputing audio. Thnx!

Based on the early 2009 mac pro specs I'm inclined to believe that audio output is not supported through the mini-displayport on the 2009's GT 120.
I did a bunch of google searching trying to find this definitively confirmed so that's why I only said "I'm inclined". Nothing in that spec however explicitly states you can get audio out of that card. Contrast that with the 2010 mac pro spec where they say you can get audio of its cards (5x70's) mini-displayport.

T410/T510 and Dual Displays

I'm looking at the T410 or T510 for my wife for her business. I wanted to try and set her up with dual displays (either the laptop LCD itself plus one display or two physical displays. Is there anything I need to be aware of in regards to a dock solution or a discrete graphics card if I'm thinking of dual displays?
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1) the integrated only option supports a max of 2 display by itself, so either 2 external LCD and no internal LCD. Or 1 external and 1 internal.
2) the optimus nvidia gpu supports up to 4 LCD.
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Random reboots - T410 T510 Win7x64

I have 2 laptops, the T410 and T510, both with windows7 x64. Both suffer from random rebooting. The T410 did blue screen a lot, and a search revealed rolling back to older nvida drivers would solve the problem. Well, it did, mostly. I still get more reboots (Critical errors in the windows logs...event 41, kernel-power), just not nearly as frequent.
My T510 is only a week old, and suffers even worse from rebooting randomly. in this case, there is no .dmp file, no blue screen, it just reboots. The windows logs only reveal that it was a critical error and that the computer restarted. I tried turning off the autorestart, but it still restarts. It can be sitting on for 12 hours and reboot, or it can be once an hour - totally random. It can be while I am working on it, or just stilling idle. This machine has had all the latest driver updates from the lenovo website, and all the microsoft updates. I am running ubuntu live cd to see if a different OS will react differently - so far it runs without rebooting, but the randomness of the event makes me want to continue testing. The only item, I guess, that is not under stress is the hard drive (Hmmm...and the shock detection program....).
I can't imagine, that I - having 2 machines acting the same way - am the only one experiencing this. Any suggestions?
UPDATE!!!!
Thanks for the replies and the links. I have found the cause of the spontaneous rebooting. I have to (somewhat) apologize to Lenovo - not 100% your fault.
I have tracked the problem down to my Maxtor Shared Storage II network storage device. Now, this hard drive backup unit is hardwired to my router, but the laptops are only wirelessly linked to it. In any case, after weeks of adding/removing 1 program at a time and waiting for random reboots, the mystery is solved. Into the trashcan for the Maxtor.
Now, if someone wants to venture a guess how some sort of wirelessly sent network "code" can reboot Lenovo computers without so much as a log file being created (wake-on-lan shut off, magic packet disabled, etc., etc. - tried it all) - I'd be interested in hearing the details. I'm guessing it's a bit of a security issue??? Hardware? Software?

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IDVD Slide Show Feature - Audio Issues

Looked around in this forum and did not see this specific issue.
I open iDVD, pick a theme, add a slide show, select the pictures out of the media window, and drag them in. Select a play list out of iTunes, and drag it in. Play the show in iDVD, all is wonderful. Burn the disk, put it in the DVD player attached to the TV, and the slideshow plays, but the music hick-ups at every slide transition.
Any ideas?
This also happened to me every time I tried to make a slideshow in the previous version of iDVD. I ended up creating the show in iPhoto or iMovie and importing that, but I guess I'd expect that if Apple put a slide show feature in iDVD, that it would actually work...

+but the music hick-ups at every slide transition.+
Toshiba DVD player? I've experienced that with those players...
Does it play OK in your Mac?

MacPro update Mini DisplayPort both audio and video?

Apple confirmed to Ars that the just-updated MacBook Pros will pass both video and audio signals to an HDTV or receiver when using an miniDP to HDMI adapter.
Just wondering if this is true or if anyone has tried it out yet?

Hello Rick! Thanks again for the reply. I took the one adapter back but at the time they had no other new ones to replace it with so I just took the refund. I was back in town at my brothers so i checked them out again and they had 3 brand new never opened adapters. I bought it again. It actually worked.
My bro had the audio splitter cables so I connected them and it did work. So not sure if the adapter I bought has the audio capability or not because I used the other audio out on the MBP. The one where it is headphone to RCA..whatever those connections are called.
I will try the adapter on a Toshiba 26" TV I have at home with just the adapter and see if audio comes through or not. I hope it will.
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ThinkPad T410/T510 SDHC Class 10 Cards

Really? Looks like my T61 supports my LX 32GB Class 10 card but my T510 doesn't (comes up as unformatted in Windows). What the heck?

Windows 7 Enterprise, 64-bit. Is there a better driver I should be using? My other, stable 64-bit desktop setup doesn't have an SD card slot. My two 32-bit, Windows 7 machines read this card without any problem.
I am constantly prompted to format the card in the 64-bit machine, though I know better than to do so.
My T510 can read/write to a very low end, 2006-era SD card (1 GB formatted). Any thoughts?

Bug or feature: Audio from videos can still play with sound turned off

I've just noticed that with the sound switch turned off (i.e., red dot showing), if I play a video and slide the volume bar to the right for the video, the audio plays on the iPhone speaker. I thought the hardware sound switch was a "master" switch which would kill all sound on the iPhone, except, of course, for headphones.

That switch is GENERALLY for the phone functions. Other apps may or may not respond to it depending on how they have been written.

Using T410/T510 Combo headset port

So I realize that headset jack on these notebooks is a combo port that uses the same headsets bundled with smartphones and I have such a headset or two lieing around. But I can't seem to get it working when I plug them in. I try to use it but it seems it's always the built-in internal mic that picks anything up.
I'm trying to set up so I can use with Ventrillo.

What that tells me is that the earphones on the headset are detected, but the mic is not. Do you have another headset to try?Here's what the SmartAudio Control Panel should look like. It should change within a few seconds of plugging in or unplugging the headset.
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T410/T510 DisplayPort features audio!!

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