T410s Fn Ctrl Key Caps?

First of all, kudos to Lenovo for implementing the Fn-Ctrl swap in the BIOS. I have an X100e and a T410s, works great on both.
On my X100e, the physical key caps were the same size, so it was easy to switch the physical Fn and Ctrl keys. However, on the T410s, the key caps are different sizes (Fn smaller than Ctrl), so they can't be directly swapped. Is there any way to get key caps in the opposite sizes (smaller Ctrl, larger Fn)?
Thanks in advance...
(Aside: why can't Fn+C ALSO be copy, etc? It currently doesn't do anything else....would solve all of this nonsense in the first place....but I digress)

Um...what?
Are you saying, "I don't think that you can get key caps for Fn and Ctrl of the right size such that they can be replaced after performing the BIOS Fn-Ctrl swap?"
If that is true...anyone have any other ideas? Maybe there's a way to get the labels/stickers?

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