T420 ignores letters' cases in power-on password

Hi!
just noticed that when I start my laptop with power-on password it accepts the password regardless of the letters' cases I enter. For instance, if the password is set to 'qwerty' it boots up with 'qwerty', 'QWERTY', 'qWeRtY', 'QWErty' and so on. The same goes to HDD password. Is that a bug or a feature?
T420 4178
BIOS 1.30
Fingerprint auth enabled
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That's just how it works. The BIOS passwords actually use the scancodes of the keys that are pressed, and not the ASCII representation. In this implementation the modifiers (such as SHIFT key) are ignored.

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I used to have 2 passwords, one on the hard drive and one for the Power On. But I was never asked about them, every time using the fingerprint. Yesteday I have just re-installed the Windows. I shutted down the laptop and when I need it opened I found that I need to put my passwords. I couldn`t remember the Power On Password.
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http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?sitestyle=lenovo&lndocid=MIGR-59377
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Remove the battery pack.
Remove the backup battery.
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Reinstall the backup battery and the battery pack.
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Please let me know what should I do in this case.

I'm really sorry, but we are dealing with the supervisor password, the most secure password on a ThinkPad. The pictures on the site you linked to are unfortunately a little outdated.
You will need to remember this password and delete it in BIOS. The forum rules forbid discussion on this subject. Discussion of the POP, (Power On Password), is permitted as this is openly published for all to see. e.g. the site you linked to.
You may be able to get some assistance from support if you call them.
Unfortunately, in accordance with the rules, I am locking this thread.
I wish you luck and hope you can resolve this.
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Power-on password problem

i have a hp mini 2140 and I took the cmos battery out, disconnected power and battery, let it sit for 2 hours, pressed power on switch maybe to discharge any power left in the system. Plugged ac power in (cmos bat not connected) powered up and I still get the power on password with pic for a key, you make three entries and then you get the big asterick symbol, no code, and then you cannot do anything else until you power it off and then when you power back on and your back to the power on password request. I then replaced the TPM module with another one from a system with no power on password requirment. No luck.
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Hi,
Unfortunately, business machines have more stringent security than consumer models - they don't produce 'halt codes', the password cannot be derived from the Serial No. and the code is stored in non-volatile memory so removing the RTC cell will not reset the password in this case.
If you Contact HP Business support they should be able to send you a customised SMC.bin file which you can use at boot to reset the password - the only other method that will work on these machines is to replace the bios chip - an example of what you require can be see on the following link.
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T61 power on password

I tried to remove my poweron password but it had a supervisor password that I did not know so I removed the backup battery and upon putting it back, the power on password button still comes on and when I put my password it does not recognize the old password anymore
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eafambu, welcome to the forum,
removing the backup battery is the correct proceedure to remove a power on password, as stated in the Hardware Maintainance Manuals and the Lost or forgotten password - ThinkPad General site, you will also see that it is not possible to delete the supervisor passord without knowing it.
You options are to remember the password, find it out if you purchased the system from a previous owner or contact support who will more than likely suggest you replace the mainboard.
It states in the forum rules;
No posts shall include instructions or directions intended to subvert security measures, including passwords, locking mechanisms, fingerprint scans, etc, nor shall any posts provide descriptions to the location of, nor direct links to content related to these topics.
Sorry, thread locked.
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You will either need to remember the password, or find it out from the person who set it.
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Does the power-on password fully protect user data?

Hi,
I am a T61 user.
First question
Does the power-on password fully protect user data, or could someone just boot from the optical drive or another source?
Second question
If I were to use full disc encryption, could I easily unecrypt it in the future?
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As mostly with everything in life, there are pros and cons related to all sort of data protection schemes. At least in therory, everything that can be encripted may also be decripted in some way, be it via reverse engineering or some other technique. - But of course some sort of protection is always better than no protection at all, especially if you deal with lets say sensible data.
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--> http://www.tech-faq.com/ibm-thinkpad-bios-password.shtml
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Performing a full HDD encription, via an embedded ATM hardware chip inside the Thinkpad, or even using some OS related encription mechanism would be more secure for sensible data, as long as you don't get hardware or software trouble with those parts, which are responsible for the build-in encription/decription scheme. So it's always also a good idea to also perform additional periodically backups of your sensible data, so if some worst case scenario might appear, that you are still be able to restore your valuable data.
Hope this gives you at least a little idea about the pros and cons of both of these security schemes.
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I try this procedure:
Turn off the computer.
Remove the battery pack.
Remove the backup battery.
Turn on the computer and wait until the POST ends. After the POST ends, the password prompt does not appear. The POP has been removed.
Reinstall the backup battery and the battery pack.
but power-on password still here
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Exactly what doesn't work?
from a completely shut down state, not a re-start, press and hold the F1 key while starting the system. The system should then beep and show the lock symbol with the error codes which mean that the date and time aren't correct, (as a result of the CMOS battery being pulled).
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In BIOS Predesktop Authentication is enabled in addition with harddisk password and power on password.
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Hi,
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