T440p Ultrabay caddy HDD rails/spacer

I bought the official Lenovo Ultrabay IV caddy for my T440p but apparently I need a spacer to ensure the HDD does not move around in it. Currently there's a 3mm gap on all sides of the HDD. Can someone point me in the right direction?
The HDD is a Travelstar 7K1000, so it's exactly the right size for the caddy (2.5", 9.5mm). I tried the plastic surround from the main drive bay, but even that allows a slight bit of movement, which is obviously a no-no for a mechanical drive. I'm at a loss what I'm supposed to use, short of literally jamming some strips of plastic in the gaps.

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You've ruled out the obvious I presume? Do you have the Photos tile on the modern screen? Is it live?
That one got me on my T420. The slideshow gadget was accessing my photos - on the HDD so it couldn't spin down.
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T430 Ultrabay or HDD Caddy and mSATA

Hi,
I just ordered my T430 and waiting for delivery. I was wondering if it is possible to use built-in HDD and add a second HDD with UltraBay or HDD Caddy for storage and programs and also add a mSATA SSD for OS installation.
3 Hard Drives on a laptop is what I am looking for. I am a heavy VMware user and need to install separate VMs to separate HDDs. If this is possible, is it advisable?
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ForksAndKnives wrote:
In response to the original post, I was also going to install the operating system on the mSATA drive but I'm not going to now because there was a post that I read that advised against it.
I can't find the post right now but I highly recommend you do some more research before going into it. Cheers
If you find that post, please post a link.
IIRC there was a thread/post advising to not use the caching SSD that shipped with these machines for the main OS drive.
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T500 Ultrabay Caddy

Hello,
Sorry for all the pestering, but I was hoping that the good people on this forum could help me out with yet another thing. I am looking into buying an ultrabay caddy to stick my hdd for an old notebook into my new T500 (SSD).
What is the difference between the first HDD adapter listed on the Lenovo site and the ultrabay III option?
And is there any way someone can confirm that this would be a genuine purchase?
http://cgi.ebay.com/2nd-hard-HDD-Caddy-Adapter-For-Thinkpad-T400-T500-W500_W0QQitemZ360198319171QQcm...

The e-bay one doesn't look right. Pull out your DVD drive - there is a piece of plastic that sticks out at the end of the drive that slipps into the machine. My ulatrabay slim adapter III also has that. The version II was designed for T400/T500, version III has a slightly different bezel shape to match the T400s exactly. It looks/works fine in my T400 - just angled a bit rather than flat. Not sure what the first one on the lenovo site is.
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@T440p owner: which HDD is buildet in?

Dear T440p owners, which HDD is buildet in your laptop?
I'm specialy interested in the original HDD
which 500GB - 7200rpm is it?
and which 1TB - 5400rpm is it?
regards
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The parts list shows that Hitachi, Toshiba and Western Digital drives are used, to find out exactly which is fitted in a unit the serial number will be required as Lenovo will use whichever is available at the time of manufacture, (although over the years my experience says Hitachi seems to be the first choice manufacturer by Lenovo, but this is no guarantee).
You can select the parts list on the following site where you will also notice that none of the 1TB drives have 7200RPM.
http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/product-and-parts/partsDBLookup.page
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Lenovo ThinkPlus TP Drive adapter Ultrabay Slim-HDD 2,5 with T40

I am planning to buy Lenovo ThinkPlus TP Drive adapter Ultrabay Slim-HDD 2,5 for my refurbished T40. Are there any limitations for disk to be used with mentioned adapter ? e.g. Can I have 320 GB disk in this adatper ? I am asking because internaly I cannot have bigger disk then 80 GB (120 GB was not working)
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You must have been doing something wrong with that 120GB drive, because there's no reason for it not to work. These machines take 160GB with no problems...been there, done that.
Hope this helps.
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Thanks for the notes. I decided not to risk it and went with the newmodeUS caddy. Yes, probaly overpaid, but the piece of mind that it WILL work, was worth it for me.

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W530 UltraBay Caddy

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I have removed the DVD from the Ultra Bay & installed a 2nd Hard Drive for extra storage etc.
Every so often, & more often than not, it ejects itself. The only method to get it back is to close lid into standby mode & open again.
Sometimes it happens on resume from standby as well..?
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Anyways, when I placed the ultrabay adapter in the laptop with the new HDD I got a message that Windows 7 was installing drivers for the new Toshiba drive, standard procedure. But I don't see anything in My Computer.
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I need to install a second 3.5" hard drive in my 3000 K100 Desktop. Unfortunately I dragged my feet and called technical support just after my one-year warranty ended.
Is there 1) Any way to mount the hard drive without one of those plastic caddies or (preferably) 2) a place I can buy one or two of those plastic caddies?
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I have a Lenovo 3000 k100 that I am installing a second SATA hard drive.
I found the blue drive rails on eBay at --
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270468028776&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3AEOIB...
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Hey,
So I had around 9 GB free space on my macbook and, using iPhoto, imported photo's from a camera with a max space of 4GB (it says it had used up around 3.6GB on the card). Near the end of the importing process an alert that I'm running out of disc space appeared, and Finder said i had only 400KB free space left, even though it should have only decreased to a minimum of 5GB!
Then all my applications started to freeze and I was forced to force quit iPhoto before the import had completed and turn off my laptop. After restarting it, there seems to be only 3GB free space left and no photo's have been imported from the camera!
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You're running an overcrowded disk and that's very dangerous.
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Then:
imported photo's from a camera with a max space of 4GB (it says it had used up around 3.6GB on the card
Your assumption that importing 3.6 gigs of material only uses 3.6 gigs is erroneous. In the process of importing temporary files are created and removed as the copying process goes on - that's that whole "temporary files and virtual memory" mention above - so the process of copying your files takes more space than the final requirement, so your disk fills up and then
Then all my applications started to freeze and I was forced to force quit iPhoto before the import had completed and turn off my laptop.
Now when you restart:
Where have 6GB gone?! Are the photo's filed somewhere and I just can't find them?! And if so, why has it taken up 6GB instead of 3.6GB?!
It's taken up that space because of the temporary files and so on. And they're there still because the disk is so full the operating system can't properly clean up after the failed import.
Your first priority is to make more space on that HD. Nothing else can be done until you do. Purchase an external HD and move your Photos and Music to it. Both iPhoto and iTunes can run perfectly well with the Library on an external disk.
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GE40 second HDD in caddy space

i'm looking to buy GE40 and i see there are two models with the same price, one with DVD drive and one without. Both have 500gb drive inside.
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The question is if there is a hdd caddy present in the one without DVD drive? I plan to put an extra Samsung 840 SSD into the machine (and replace the 500 for one 750gb 7200 which i have laying around)
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maybe i didn't phrase this smart enough.
If i order a GE40 without dvd drive where is the HDD located? In a ODD bay or in the hdd/msata space? If it is in hdd/msata then what is in the ODD bay? a hdd caddy? or nothing, just a closed lid? Anyone ordered ge40 without ODD and can have a look?
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W530 HDD/SSD detailed RAIL/TRAY info request

My apologies as this may appear to be beating a dead horse. However, I have called Tech support twice, Boulder IBM parts twice, and Lenovo Inside Sales twice. Sales & this site were the most helpful.
I'm posting this as there seems to be some data/info missing as to what some of the parts are comprised of and their specs. I need this data so I can order the final upgrade parts from either IBM, newmodeus, or ?. I'm also hoping this thread will help other people who are in the same boat as I am which is ordering parts prior to receiving the PC.
I'm attempting to do what appears to be the standard W530 main drive bay 500GB 7200 rpm HDD move to a 12.7mm Ultrabay and then insertion of a SSD into the main drive bay. I will be inserting a OCZ 9.3mm Vertex 4 256GB SSD in the main drive bay.
From the forums, the Lenovo web site, sales, and IBM parts I've attained the following info.
A) It appears that the main drive bay will hold up to a 9.5mm drive.
B) The W530 could ship with either a 7mm or a 9.5mm 500GB 7200 RPM HDD.
* What's relevant with this is there must be two different rail options shipped from IBM, 7mm & 9mm rails to fill the main drive bay. *
C) Lenovo P/N 0A65623 = the proper 12.7mm Ultrabay adapter for the W530 due to the larger notebook form factor.
D) From Sales, there are 2 sets of rails available/recommended for the 12.7mm Bay:
IBM P/N 04W1640 = COVER (Rubber Rails for a HDD)
IBM P/N 04W1641 = SSD SPACER (Hard Spacer Rails for a SSD)
* Concerned that these may not fit the Bay properly or be the correct parts. *
E) From Sales, IBM P/N 41V9756 = RUBBER SHEET FRU (Rubber Rails for SSD or HDD in the Main Drive Bay)
* Are these rubber rails for a 7mm or a 9.5mm drive natively? Does this kit contain a caddy tray? *
F) newmodeus Model TP-60 = a metal caddy tray, 4 mounting screws, and two rubber rails. The rubber rails are supposedly the same as IBM P/N 41V9756. Website link below:
http://www.newmodeus.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2_7&products_id=218
I've read the threads and have seen where people shim and cut the rubber rails depending on the drive size. No offense intended but I want to install the correct and perfectly sized config.
I'd like to buy genuine parts so I'm really trying hard to make use of the above IBM parts. The questions below will help me decide on what my SSD mounting config should consist of.
Unfortunately, I can't seem to find the following info anywhere.
1) Do any of the IBM rail kits listed above in D & E come with a caddy tray & screws?
The newmodeus TP-60 does so I am concerned a tray and screws are needed for a proper tight/secure fit.
2) Do either of the stock Lenovo 500GB 7200 RPM HDD drives ship installed with a caddy tray, screws, and rubber rail config in the main drive bay? If no, what is the config?
3) Is the intended Lenovo design, to always use a caddy tray and rails?
4) Has anyone purchased a W530 with a SSD in the main drive bay and if yes, did it have a caddy tray attach for use with its rails?
5) if a SSD was initially purchased, did it ship with just the hard SSD SPACER rails and no tray?
6) If someone has purchased the IBM rail kits, do all three of the kits have the same outside height dimensions?
7) Does anyone have these dimension(s)?
8) Has anyone taken their stock 500GB 7200 RPM HHD and rails/potential caddy tray out of the main drive bay and just plopped it into the 12.7mm Bay?
9) If yes to question 8, is it a perfect tight/snug fit without any gaps, space, or room to jar loose?
* Concern here that the 12.7mm Bay is bigger and the locking mechanism on the bay will not provide a tight fit. *
Sorry for all the questions and the above novel. If it were easy, we'd either be monkeys or paying Lenovo for the integrated parts.
Hoping I can just port the existing HDD/rails/tray over to the Bay. Then it's a matter of how my SSD should be mounted in the inside of the main drive bay.
ANY help, to any of the above comments or questions would be greatly appreciated!!
This has been really frustrating not being able to discover the config. It seems like it should be really simple... How big are both bay demensions, what are the outside dimensions of the rails, what is the inside config of the rails in terms of drive size dimensions, and are we supposed to use caddy trays all the time with every drive or just a HDD or none at all... I was REALLY expecting tech support to know this. Instead, I had to teach them... They said the PC was new...
I'm expecting the PC this week along with the SSD and some RAM. I'd like to have they correct rail and caddy tray, if needed, here and ready to go. Need to get this puppy staged and ready to go so I can hit the ground running.
Cheers & Thanks!
W530: i7-3720QM, FHD, K2000M, 8GB RAM, 7200RPM 500 GB HDD, N 6300, Win 7 Pro 64
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Thanks harrisb!
Your solution makes sense. I found the newmodeus bay after my bundled purchase of the W530, the 12.7mm Bay and the MiniDock. Also found this forum after the transaction. It's a shame but it really seems like the Lenovo Bay is making this more difficult than it should be due to the lack of info.
Unfortunately, UPS is delivering my Lenovo Bay and Dock today. The SSD and RAM has also shipped and is due to arrive this week as is the W530.
The only thing that hasn't been purchased is the SSD and HDD mounting gear.
With this info what would you or anyone else do at this point?
Would purchasing the newmodeus TP-60 Tray, Screws, and rails work with the SSD in the Main Drive bay?
Would the HDD and it's default rails/tray fit perfectly/securely in the 12.7mm Bay?
Would the kit that comes on the HDD still work on the SSD in the Main Drive and then use the newmodeus TP-60 kit on the HDD in the Bay?
There's also the IBM parts? Just concerned they don't come with the tray or screws. And, they won't fit securely in the main drive or bay.
Really appreciate the speedy reply!!
P.S. Got the OCZ due to the great IOPS specs.
W530: i7-3720QM, FHD, K2000M, 8GB RAM, 7200RPM 500 GB HDD, N 6300, Win 7 Pro 64

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