T61p rated FAN LIFE?

Hi,
Anyone know the rated fan life for the fan on a T61p? could u post the link or something? and what speed is it safe to leave the fan running on constantly using tpfan control?
thanks!
Carthik

hello!
here or here are some more suggestions about the rpm.
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...However, I'm wondering if running the fans at 1500 rpm default poses a potential risk of significantly shortened fan life?... ...This whole thing about heat is new to me. Have never dealt with it, even back in the day (1984) with my Mac 512 ($2800!).
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