T7700, center channel, full speaker support

Hey all,
Just picked up the Inspire T7700 system (looks great) and have got all channels but the center forward working thus far.
My audio card is the SB Live! Value, and so far I can see no software options to support more than four speakers:
http://dmzweb4.europe.creative.com/S...,Case=obj(273)
Under "Testing your audio card with a pair of headphones or analog speakers," software options are shown that I just
don't have under my Creative Surround Mixer (speaker setup for 5.1/7.1). Presumably the options I'm seeing at the above
URL are within software for a different sound card, but the page doesn't state this. The T7700 isn't supposed to come
bundled with software (I did update to the recent driver pack and PlayCenter and no soap), so what driver package
provides options to support more than four speakers? (i.e., I need the drivers for full support of the 7 speakers for
the T7700). Also, at this URL:
http://ask.americas.creative.com/SRVS/CGI-BIN/WEBCGI.EXE?New,Kb=ww_english,Company={CEAE26D-879-4C00-AC9F-03BC258F7B70},VARSET=ws:http://us.creative.com,case=4883
It mentions that CMSS is supported by the Live! series cards. I have the 5.1->7.1, 6.1-7.1, and 'direct' CMSS options
on the sub -- changing this setting doesn't give me my center channel (i.e., I read another thread where someone got
their center channel working through adjusting the CMSS setting -- this didn't work for me). What am I doing wrong?
Thanks,
-Chris
Message Edited by Ashurba***al on 11-08-2004 06:37 AM
Message Edited by Ashurba***al on 11-08-2004 06:39 AM
Message Edited by Ashurba***al on 11-08-2004 06:40 AM
Message Edited by Ashurba***al on 11-08-2004 06:40 AM

Ashurba***al
The Live! Value sound card support up to 4.1 analog speaker. Therefore there would not be 5, speaker option in the mixer applicaton. Perhaps it times to upgrade your sound card to at least a 5.1 speaker support or 7.1 speaker support since you have a 7.1 speaker.
The Audigy 2 ZS sound card would be able to support up to 7.1 speaker.
http://us.creative.com/products/prod...04&product=495
Jason

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