Tables in Fluid Grid Layouts

I having trouble with tables in fluid grid layouts.  They work good in a desktop environment but in tablet and phone views, the table gets cut off past the dimensions of the display giving only part of the table.  Any advice on how to make it work like it should?

Thanks a lot everyone.  Some good links there.  What I need to do, is be able to display tabular data as seen on my current website at www.richardsinkler.net (click on the "tunings" button).  One thing I have noticed, is the page I created using a template I made using fluid grid layout, doesn't give me the div ID in my css file 3 times (in phone, tablet and desktop sections) like other pages I created from the same template.  I had to not display a div on the phone where I had a pic that would bleed out of the right side of the display.  I was able to set the dislplay attribute to "none" and everything was fine.  I guess I could hand code the same functionality into the css file for what I need, to stop the display of the tables on smaller screens.  Or, could I have 2 divs on my desktop page with my tables in one, and a text version of the tables in the other?  Then I could hide the text div on the larger display and use the tables, and hide the tables on the smaller displays and use the text div.  Sound feasable? 
Also, what is the difference between "width" and "max-width"?  I will look it up, but find that real people, and not technical writers (although they are real people also), can explain it better for the average person like me.

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