Tabs (much headscratching)

Hi
My theory is that the Tabs maintenance section of APEX was designed by someone who had just taken a large dose of LSD.
Problem:
Trying to create something simple. Two levels of tabs :-
I'm getting so frustrated. I managed to create the Config parent and it's children. Fine. No problem. When I try to add the Bookings and Children then I get tied in knots trying to get my head around the relationships between the following objects..
Parent Tabset
Parent Tab
Standard Tabset
Standard Tab
Pseudo-parent Tab
I end up with the Bookings page having one level of tabs and the Configuration parent tab disappearing (oh and yes the page the tabs appear on has a two-level tab template).
What were the designers thinking? Conceptually it should be very straightforward. It's a simple tree structure with 2 fixed levels
Parent Tabset
Child 1 of Parent -> Child 1 Tabset
Child 1 of Child 1 Tabset
Child 2 of Child 1 Tabset
Child 2 of Parent -> Child 2 Tabset
Child 1 of Child 2 Tabset
Child 2 of Child 2 Tabset
And so on.. The UI to maintain all of this is so convoluted and in some cases irrational.
HELP!
Mark W

ze**** wrote:
Hi Tyler,
Could you tell me how a Pseudo Parent Tab (circled with dot line, can be selected, no edit icon) is generated? When I created the tab set (1st level tab), I did select a parent tab (default 'main'), but it ended up as a Pseudo Parent Tab, which can not be edited or re-associated to a parent tab. The "Edit Standard Tabs" view has 'main' in the "Parent Tab Set" column. This tab set (1st level tab) would not show up in the GUI as others do. I have created standard tab sets and tabs before following the same process and they worked fine.
I just would like to convert that Pseudo Parent Tab into a normal editable tab set (1st level tab). Could you please help me? I have tried every single links and buttons and am just about to go crazy. DO NOT post follow-ups to ancient threads. Many of the participants in such threads will no longer be active on the forum (check the "recent messages" in their profiles).
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