Tagged Text

Hi folks,
I have some text in CSV file(Excel file) containing first row as header, and the reset is data vaues belonging to those columns.
I can read the data from the file, now I want to assign the each row of data to parts of a text box in InDesign, something like Data Merge plugin available in PMPack folder. For this reason I need to tag the place of of each destination item in text box with something like <<>> (as it is in Data Merge).
Now my question is:
How can I set the tag in text box and associate it to an item (column) in my list? Is any sample code available to give me some hints for this?
TIA,
Nima

I am presuming that your question is that you don't know where to get the info from.
So experiment.
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