Tags in JCAPS 5.1.3

Hi everyone!
I'm trying to understand the usage of the tag in JCAPS 5.1.3
I've tagged several components (a subproject) from a proyect and I want to know if a can:
1) export only the tagged components?
2) retrieve all the tagged components at the same time, or if I have to do it one by one?
I appreciate if someone could explain me what you can and cannot do with the tag option.
Thanks

Tags in JCAPS Repository are primarily used with deployment profiles. They are not the traditional CVS or SVN Tags. As far as I know, you cannot export projects based on Tags. The only place they are useful is when you are creating deployment profiles and want to use an older Tagged version of the connectivity maps etc and the components used within them such as JCDs, eWays, BPs etc. The caveat here is that if you used any external JARs within your JCDs, earlier versions of those would not be references corresponding to the repository Tag.
Hope that helps.
Z.

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