Taking RMAN backup of primary and standby databases.

Hi,
I am going to setup a Standby for Primary two node RAC to single node standby.
My doubt is, in standby both primary and standby will have the same db_name. So how can i take the RMAN backup of both primary and standby by using a single catalog.
That is, we can register the primary DB with catalog using it's db_name. But how can we register the standby with catalog using same db_name as it is already registered.
Thanks,
Mahi

Are you using a physical or logical standby?
If its a physical standby why do you need to back up both databases? backup the standby and you are done, the backup from the standby can be recovered to either the live serever or the standby if needed, andt hen the archivelogs used to bring it up to date.
If its a logical standby then change the database name for the standby and you can back both up to the same catalog, or alternativly cretae a new catalog for the standby, either as a new database or a new schema in your existing catalog.

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96 707906 708653 15-AUG-08 15-AUG-08
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Variable Size 180358020 bytes
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