Tangled story in layout?

The story I copied from another InDesign document is in disarray. The story editor story is perfect. But in the layout the pages are out of order. I looked at the threads and it is just a jumble. Can I delete the layout text and reflow from story editor or would story editor text be deleted too? Is there a quick way to remedy this tangled mess?
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You can delete text frames in your layout. Just make sure that you leave at least one frame of your story. All the text of the story is inside that one frame and you can reflow it by clicking that small red +sign you will see on the bottom right corner of textframe.
If you have lot´s of text in overset, you can also autoflow it by pushing Shift down after you have clicked +sign, and keeping it down while you flow the text...

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> .oO(Thierry)
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[edit]
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