Tape versus SD

I'm thinking of replacing my miniDV camera with a HD version and am wondering about the expert views on which medium is in our future. I liked miniDV because it provided me with an inexpensive way of archiving my raw footage. On the other hand, I wasn't fond of the time-consuming capture process.
I apologize if this is the wrong forum group, but I respect the views expressed. here.

Unfortunately, I feel that tape is at the end of its lifespan for Video recording. I also like it, and for the reasons that you list. The real-time Capture was a bit of a drawback (really bothered some, more than others), but I used that time to make notes to help me in the editing later.
The tapeless workflow is here to stay, IMHO. More NLE (Non Linear Editor) programs now support tapeless (though there are still specific digital media files that will not be accepted by all NLE's), and pretty seamlessly.
Of course, I predicted the total demise of DVD-Video, once BD was sorted out. That did not happen, and for various reasons.
Good luck in your decision,
Hunt

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