Target costs
Hi,
I need to use for target cost calculation, a target version with a costing variant that not update the standard costs.
If I use this costing variant, for to use target cost, I have to mark and release the cost estimate or the cost estimate can be only calculated?
Thanks
Regards
Hi
A cost estimate which does not update the Std cost can not be marked and released.... It would be enough if you just save the cost estimate or Store it in a Planned Price field using "Update Other prices" option in Ck24
BR, Ajay M
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Target costs will only be calculated after the first goods receipt has been posted to the order. Also you have to ensure that the information to calculate target costs exists on the system in particular in OKV6.
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Is there somebody who is working with co-products which can be different each time you consume raw material?
Here is the situation when we want to analyse variance Actual vs Preliminary cost.
We use Production Order with Co-Products.
When we create a Plan Order, the order costs and qty are calculated for the order header.
Actual costs and qty are charged to the order header as they are incurred.
PLAN:
Main co-product 900 PC
Co-Product A 50 PC
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1,000 PC
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Co-Product A 100 PC
Co-Product B 100 PC
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Consumption:
Raw material 260 PC
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250 PC
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260 PC
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Here is the target qty calculation made by the system.
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Since variance calculation is performed at the order item level, that means you can not substitute one Co-Product by another one.
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I have got a query pertaining to Engineer to Order Scenario. A production order has been created with WBS element as the account assignment .Its a valuated project stock scenario, with configurable material. As per SAP standard behaviour and my limited knowledge, the Goods Receipt for FERT/HALB happens according to either of the four strategies:
Standard Price ( if there exists one)
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1) In case of Engineer to Order Valuated Stock Scenario where prod order is created with reference to WBS element, how is the standard price (or target costs for version 0) determined
2) Under what situation at the time of goods receipt ,will an entry " Price diff A/c Dr & cost of production-Credit will be posted, instead of Inventory A/c being debited?
Awaiting a reply
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the easy answer first: The standard price is just taken out of the material segment without WBS assignment. That means if you maintain a standard price in the accounting view of the material master for the material number + plant that will be the fallback to be used. That will at least reuslt in a inventory posting, instead of pure price differences (against a price of zero)
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Only remaining var. in version 0 - no target costs
Hi!
We are doing settlement for process orders, most of the process orders are created and goods receipts happened before standard cost estimation is released.
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The variance will directly go to CO-PA, as we have activated the same.
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3757.38 co-product 2
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2. Cost of production a/c DR 44175.58
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4. Cost of production a/c CR 30410.72
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10 Input price variance
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30 Mat Resource-usage variance
40 Remaining input variance
50 Mixed-price variance
60 Output price variance
70 Lot size-/fixed-cost variance
80 Remaining variance
90 Scrap
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Edited by: Ramesh Balivada on Jul 28, 2011 6:41 PMHi ramesh
You need to live with this as you cant reverse the GR
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KKS1 Only remaining var. in version 0 - no target cost Message no. KV151
Hi,
I am trying to variance calculation using T-code KKS1 but i am facing error as below,
Only remaining var. in version 0 - no target costs for 000001000010
Message no. KV151
Diagnosis
For the calculation of variances with 000001000010 , the target costs in target cost version 0 are missing for the following reasons:
There were no planned costs and/or planned quantities (see earlier message).
The quantities on which the planned costs were based are zero in the time period concerned. This may be caused by the fact that no goods receipt for a cost object (such as a product cost collector or production order) has been entered.
This results in target costs of zero.
System Response
Because no target costs were calculated, the difference between the
planned and actual costs could not be broken down into variance categories. The difference is updated as a remaining variance.
please guide me or missing any config
Thanks
ShitalHi Shital
there are many posts available in the forum already on this topic... I would recommend to search the forum before posting any question, thats the rule of the forum
You are facing this error for one or more of the following reasons
1. Your standard cost estimate is not released. This must be released before GR from the production order
2. If your contr area currency is diff than comp code currency, then your cost estimate must also be updated in contr area currency.. You do this in costing variant (OKKN)
3. GR might not have been done in the month for which you are calculating variance... i.e. This production order was created, say, in July end but actual processing and GR done in August.. So when you calculate variance for July, this error appears. In this case, you can ignore this error
Regards
Ajay M -
The target costs in target cost version 0 are missing
Dear Experts,
I am getting following error while running Varience cost through KKS2:
Only remaining var. in version 0 - no target costs for 000001061683 0001
Message no. KV151
Diagnosis
For the calculation of variances with 000001061683 0001, the target costs in target cost version 0 are missing for the following reasons:
There were no planned costs and/or planned quantities (see earlier message).
The quantities on which the planned costs were based are zero in the time period concerned. This may be caused by the fact that no goods receipt for a cost object (such as a product cost collector or production order) has been entered.
This results in target costs of zero.
System response
Because no target costs were calculated, the difference between the
planned and actual costs could not be broken down into variance categories. The difference is updated as a remaining variance.
Please suggest, How to proceed.
RegardsFirst check this...
1.Go to t.code OKEV.Select Controlling Area 2222 and create Plan / Target version.
The standard system supplies the following target cost versions:
Target cost version 0 ( total variance)
The amount of the total variance generates a posting in Financial Accounting during settlement.
For this version, select actual costs as the control costs and standard cost estimate as the target costs.
Target cost version 1 ( production variance)
For this version you choose actual costs as the control costs and planned costs as the target costs.
Target cost version 2( planning variance)
With target cost version 2, the costs from the preliminary order cost estimate are interpreted as control costs. For this version, select planned costs as the control costs and current cost estimate as the target costs. You cannot calculate planning variances for the product cost collector.
Target cost version 3 (production variance of the period)
You compare the planned costs of the period calculated on the basis of an alternative material cost estimate (such as a modified standard cost estimate) with the actual costs of the period on the basis of the yield delivered to stock in the period.
2.Also try In CO02 goto cunctions...cost...
3.Go to transaction OKV6 these settings control what values are used to update the target costs.
Target cost comes from the standard price calculated when doing a costing run. Actual costs are costs that you incur during the production order (we can reassign costs during the order so this could be different from the standard price).
Target Costs=Actual Quantitiy X the Standard Cost Estimate Price..
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Also put the overhead group in the material master.
Although I am getting it correctly as part of product cost planning, when it comes to calculating this overhead on a production order, it does it based on 'total actual costs' posted to the order. I want it to calculate the % overhead based on the standard cost of actual production (the target cost).
I would really appreciate some help on this.Hi
If that's the requirement, you can achieve through template allocation. Refer the doc contributed by arturo senosain
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Hello All,
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Total Target Costs not updated in Process Order
Hi All,
I have a scenario in a Process Order,
The Process order is Released, Goods Issued and GR done. But the when i go and check the Cost Analysis i did not see anything in the Total Target Costs and Total Target Qty coloumns agianst all the cost elements. It show as zero for all.
It looks very strange. There is variance in the component issues and GR as well. I simulated for the same material with a new Process order and found the vales get populated automatically on GI and GR's with variation against requirement quantity.
Could any one explain me why it is so ..? or is my understanding is wrong.....?
Thanks for your time and patience.
Regards,
Srinath VSrinath Venkatr,
I think you are missing PP CO integration configuration during master data creation. There might be information massage to you during process order creation saying , 'Logs during Cost calculation", you are skipping the same and creating process order withought resolving the same.
Check whether you followed all the steps for product costing.
Material master,
BOM,
OPKP:-Controlling area-activate components and Controll indicators
:- Assignment of co codes
KS01: Cost center
KA01/KA06:- Primary/ Secondary Cost elements
KL01:-Activity Types
KP26:- Activity Price Planning
Then Work center/Resource- assign these cost center and activities with costing formulas.
Then Routing/Recepi-
After master data, demand management,MRP- process order. while creating process order check cost calculation errors.
Hopes that will clear your dought
Tara -
Target cost not appearing in process order
Hi All,
Please let me know the reasons for target cost not appearing in process order.
Thanks,
SAP PQTwo more scenarios:
1. You have co-product.
2. You reverse the variance calculation.
It will show the target cost only after you run variance calculation. -
Target costs not displayed in process order
Hi,
We have set up a small PI scenario. The issue we are facing is that the target costs are not displayed in the order. Actual costs appear after confirmation, but target costs appear as zero.
We have maintianed cost relevancy in work centers, defined valid activity types, maintianed price in material master for all components and also run the standard cost estimate and released it.
Please let us know what we are missing and why this error could be happening?
Thanks in advance,
AshokTarget costs are populated when you do the goods receipt. System will search for the released standard cost estimate and then apply that for each material component. If these 2 conditions are passed, then you will get target cost in order,
You need to define the following,
1. Variance Key - Transaction "OKV1"
2. Assign that to Plant using "OKVW"
3. Define Variance Variant using "OKVG"
4. Define Valuation variant for WIP/Scrap calculation using "SPRO"
5. Define target cost version by assiging sl no 3 & 4 and also how the cost calculation should be used.
Once this activities are completed, execute production/process order and then after goods movement and some confirmations process Variance using "KKS2" as a period end activities.
Edited by: sarin toms on Dec 2, 2008 2:26 PM -
Target cost calculation in Process Order based on Variance Calculation
Hi all,
I have a question on Target cost calculation in Process Order. My understanding is, the Target Costs gets calculated when the confirmation and GR is made for the Process Order.
But if the confirmation/GR is not done, whether the target costs gets calculated for only the activity types after the Variance Calculation (KKS2).
I have two scenarios. In one, the target costs got calculated for the activity types without the confirmation/GR after the Variance calculation.
In another scenario, the target costs are not getting calculated for the activity types without the confirmation/GR if I try to do the variance calculation in KKS2.
SO i want to know which scenario is correct?
Can anyone answer this question?
Thanks and Regards,
BrijeshHi,
In general, the target costs are calculated once you deliver the order.
Target costs for the components and the activities are updated only once you deliver the order and the target cost for the finished product gets updated when you do the variance calculation.
Consider your scenario number 1 - you said the target costs got calculated for activity types without confirmation / GR after variance calculation.
Now, if the order is not having any status like PDLV, DLV or TECO it will not calculate the variances in the first place.
Your second scenario is correct - without GR the system does not calculate any target costs. Also it will not calculate any variances because the order status is still not DLV.
Best Regards,
Sameer
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