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Process: Mail [320]
Path: /Applications/Mail.app/Contents/MacOS/Mail
Identifier: com.apple.mail
Version: 3.1 (914)
Build Info: Mail-9140000~1
Code Type: X86 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [158]
Date/Time: 2008-02-10 09:00:25.820 +0100
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.5.1 (9B18)
Report Version: 6
Exception Type: EXC_CRASH (SIGABRT)
Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000
Crashed Thread: 19
Thread 19 Crashed:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x935a647a __kill + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9361d782 raise + 26
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9362cd3f abort + 73
3 com.apple.MessageFramework 0x0046b8ce sqlite3_traceCallback + 0
4 com.apple.MessageFramework 0x003631ba +[Library insertOrUpdateMessages:withMailbox:fetchBodies:isInitialImport:oldMessagesByNew Message:remoteIDs:newDocumentIDs:setFlags:clearFlags:messageFlagsForMessages:cop yFiles:progressDelegate:updateRowIDs:] + 2261
5 com.apple.MessageFramework 0x00466efe -[LibraryStore appendMessages:unsuccessfulOnes:newMessageIDs:newMessages:newDocumentIDsByOld:f lagsToSet:forMove:error:] + 767
6 com.apple.MessageFramework 0x003e8803 -[MessageStore appendMessages:unsuccessfulOnes:newMessageIDs:newMessages:flagsToSet:forMove:er ror:] + 92
7 com.apple.MessageFramework 0x00386090 -[MessageStore appendMessages:unsuccessfulOnes:newMessageIDs:newMessages:flagsToSet:forMove:] + 85
8 com.apple.MessageFramework 0x00386035 -[MessageStore appendMessages:unsuccessfulOnes:newMessageIDs:newMessages:flagsToSet:] + 77
9 com.apple.MessageFramework 0x00385fe2 -[MessageStore appendMessages:unsuccessfulOnes:newMessageIDs:newMessages:] + 70
10 com.apple.MessageFramework 0x00385f96 -[MessageStore appendMessages:unsuccessfulOnes:newMessageIDs:] + 63
11 com.apple.MessageFramework 0x00385f51 -[MessageStore appendMessages:unsuccessfulOnes:] + 56
12 com.apple.MessageFramework 0x00360330 -[MessageStore finishRoutingMessages:routed:] + 388
13 com.apple.MessageFramework 0x003edcf6 -[MessageRouter routeQueuedMessages] + 953
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16 com.apple.MessageFramework 0x003d0a05 -[MonitoredInvocation invoke] + 409
17 com.apple.MessageFramework 0x003d18c7 +[WorkerThread _execute:] + 144
18 com.apple.Foundation 0x9393804d -[NSThread main] + 45
19 com.apple.Foundation 0x93937bf4 _NSThread__main_ + 308
20 libSystem.B.dylib 0x93569075 pthreadstart + 321
21 libSystem.B.dylib 0x93568f32 thread_start + 34
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Identifier: com.apple.mail
Version: 3.1 (914)
Build Info: Mail-9140000~1
Code Type: X86 (Native)
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Exception Type: EXC_CRASH (SIGABRT)
Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000
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0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9361967e _semwait_signalnocancel + 10
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2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9362cd4b abort + 85
3 com.apple.MessageFramework 0x0046b8ce sqlite3_traceCallback + 0
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6 com.apple.MessageFramework 0x003e8803 -[MessageStore appendMessages:unsuccessfulOnes:newMessageIDs:newMessages:flagsToSet:forMove:er ror:] + 92
7 com.apple.MessageFramework 0x00386090 -[MessageStore appendMessages:unsuccessfulOnes:newMessageIDs:newMessages:flagsToSet:forMove:] + 85
8 com.apple.MessageFramework 0x00386035 -[MessageStore appendMessages:unsuccessfulOnes:newMessageIDs:newMessages:flagsToSet:] + 77
9 com.apple.MessageFramework 0x00385fe2 -[MessageStore appendMessages:unsuccessfulOnes:newMessageIDs:newMessages:] + 70
10 com.apple.MessageFramework 0x00385f96 -[MessageStore appendMessages:unsuccessfulOnes:newMessageIDs:] + 63
11 com.apple.MessageFramework 0x00385f51 -[MessageStore appendMessages:unsuccessfulOnes:] + 56
12 com.apple.MessageFramework 0x00360330 -[MessageStore finishRoutingMessages:routed:] + 388
13 com.apple.MessageFramework 0x003edcf6 -[MessageRouter routeQueuedMessages] + 953
14 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x938d7b9d _invoking__ + 29
15 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x938d7588 -[NSInvocation invoke] + 136
16 com.apple.MessageFramework 0x003d0a05 -[MonitoredInvocation invoke] + 409
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18 com.apple.Foundation 0x9393804d -[NSThread main] + 45
19 com.apple.Foundation 0x93937bf4 _NSThread__main_ + 308
20 libSystem.B.dylib 0x93569075 pthreadstart + 321
21 libSystem.B.dylib 0x93568f32 thread_start + 34
Thread 17 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
eax: 0x0000003c ebx: 0x936191cf ecx: 0xb04520ac edx: 0x9361967e
edi: 0xa0499f00 esi: 0xb0452108 ebp: 0xb04520e8 esp: 0xb04520ac
ss: 0x0000001f efl: 0x00000247 eip: 0x9361967e cs: 0x00000007
ds: 0x0000001f es: 0x0000001f fs: 0x0000001f gs: 0x00000037
cr2: 0x20496050
Thanks, hope someone can help me out with what to do.
Cheers Nikolaj
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Hello Barry
Thanks for your reply, it did the trick, in a weird sort of way:
After deleting the mail preference file as you suggested, I could check for new mail messages without Mail.app crashing all over the place.
However all my accounts and the messages in them was gone. Okay, one problem solved and new one created.
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+Possible Solution Found+
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+I started from scratch with my gmail accounts in mail 4.0.+
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+I created both accounts, set those options, and hit take all mailboxes online. Mail seems to be downloading my messages from gmail smoothly so far for both accounts at the same time.+

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For the purposes you have these accounts, both deselect (as you have done) Include when checking for new mail, and take the account Offline. The latter does prevent sending with the account, but will stop the undesired downloads. I have found the need to do both of these things at least since Mail 2.x and Tiger, and possibly since Panther.
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