TCP Reset Confusion

I have confiugred TCP string signature to reset the connection when user try to open certain URL.
I have configured no device for blocking action.
but still i am able to block. Why it is so, How IPS able to block URL.
Please let me know is TCP reset require any device to be in blocking list or IPS itself send the reset packet to user.

The option is not configurable for Firewalls(or a Cat 6K switch as well).
This is because the option is only applicable to the Routers.
With Routers you have to choose whether to do Blocking or Rate Limiting or both.
With the Firewalls (and Cat 6K Switches) the only thing you can do is Block. Since the only thing you can do is Block, it is not necessary to select it. The parameter just simply doesn't exist for the Firewall because it is unnecessary.
This is a bug in IDM. IDM re-used the Router screen for Firewalls and greyed out the field, but it should have creatd a new Screen for Firewalls and left it completely out.
As for why shunning to the Firewall is not working, here are a few things to try.
1) Through IDM add an address to Shun/Block. Then check the Firewall with a "show shun" command to see if the address was shunned. If not proceed to step 2.
2) Execute "show events past 00:05:00" to look at the events for the past 5 minutes. FInd the event where you added the shun/block, and look to see if there were any errors after it.
3) Execute "show stat network-access" and look to see what is reported for your Pix. It may report an error as to why it can't connect.
If there is still no luck figuring out why it can't connect then try:
4) In the shun/block configuration screens there should be a Block Enable option that you can set to False and Apply the configuration. This should force the sensor to disconnect from all Shun/Block devices.
5) Execute "show events" in a CLI connection and keep it running.
6) Now set Block Enable back to True and Apply the configuration.
7) Look back at the "show events" output and look for any messages about the sensor connecting to the Firewall to see if an Error is generated.
I also remember a bug in an older version, that I believe is fixed in newer service packs.
Execute "show shun" on the Firewall and see if there are any existing shuns.
Remove any existing shuns on the Firewall with the "no shun" command.
And then try numbers 4-7 again.
There were special cases where some existing shun entries caused a problem on the sensor because newer Pix versions modified how they output the shun list.
If clearing out the shun list fixed your problem, then you may have been hitting this bug, and you may need to upgrade your sensor in order to keep from hitting it in the future.

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1 vlan 1 is up but no ip address on this due to vlan 2 is MGT IP
2 I have the man-port on vlan 2
intrusion-detection module 9 management-port access-vlan 2
3 I ran the tcpdump and noting came back go a pars error.
can anyone shed light on my problems I'm not sure I have everything config right.
Thanks

Not sure what you are asking.
Sounds like you may be confusing the management port with TCP Reset event action for signatures.
The TCP Reset packets as event actions for signatures will not be sent out of the management port. They are sent out a TCP Reset port.
The TCP Reset port is not user configurable or even viewable in Native IOS.
The configuration you need to worry about is not the management-port but instead the data-ports of the IDSM-2. The data-ports need to be properly configured to monitor the traffic you want to execute the TCP Resets on,

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I would like to block teamviewer in my network. we are using CISCO IPS 4240 in IDS Mode. I found that there are signatures for teamviewer in latest Signatures.
We have only configured promiscuous interface, I read that we can issue TCP resets thru promiscuous interface as well (recommended is dedicated tcp reset interface).
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I am a beginner is IPS, Any inputs will be valuable for me.

We're talking about sigs 15002-0, -1, -2 here. They are by default shipped disabled and retired, so you'll want to enable and activate them.
For these, the signature settings are not hidden and what they look for is pretty clearly documented in the sig description.
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Hi all, i have a IDSM-2 and it's not ywet in production because I need to set the IDSM-2 to just monitor the connection and do not take any action...
The module is in the default signatures configuration and some of the active signatures have the TCP reset option marked.... and some signatures have RiskRating set to 100. It's a problem because the Event action rule will drop the signatures with a risk rating of 100.
Is there any way to have the IDS just in monitoring state?
How can I do it?
The IDSM-2 is in promiscuous mode... and I have about 50 vlans going trough the module with a SPAN configuration
Thanks in advance.
Fabio

Yes, you may use IDSM2 in promiscuous mode to monitor SPAN-session. It is the best way in your case because the module will not affect the traffic.
But also you can disable the event-action for high-risk rating signatures. I think it will be useful because you have 50 vlans and this amount of traffic may cause high CPU load.

Does cisco router support "tcp reset" mesg when the traffic blocked by access lit ?

hi ,
im trying to know if i blocked a destination with an access list on cisco.
can i make "tcp-rest " to that connection instead on dropping it ??
i belive it supported on ASA appliance , but not sure if supported on cisco routers.
im trying to migrate from linux router to cisco router and apply the same config , one of the challenging task is , i have
"reject-with=tcp-reset"
im wondering if i can do it on cisco router
waiting ur responce
regards

One of the things that keeps me engaged with these forums is that they challenge me and give me opportunities to learn new things. My initial reaction to your question about IPS on IOS router was to say that this is not supported. But I did some research and find that apparently IPS functionality is now supported on some (but not all) of Cisco IOS routers. See this link for additional detail:
http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/security/ios-intrusion-prevention-system-ips/product_data_sheet0900aecd803137cf.html
HTH
Rick

IPS 4240 : TCP Reset didn't work properly

hello all,
i've created new customer signature to reset for tcp string with testattack.
for testing, i've configured telnet password using testattack on router's line vty.
i've tried to connect to the router with testattack password.
i can see the popup message on the IEV but the telnet session can't disconnect.
i gueess, the telnet sessio shoud be disconnect due to the signature.
how can i configure to accoplish this test?
IPS : Cisco Intrusion Prevention System, Version 5.1(4)S257.0
Decoded Alarm Context on IEV :
Decoded alarm context(signature name='My sig' Evend ID=~~~~
-snip
From attacker : P ANSI testattc
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evIdsAlert: eventId=1177883105267717064 vendor=Cisco severity=high
originator:
hostId: SEIPS
appName: sensorApp
appInstanceId: 347
time: 2007년 4월 29일 (일) 오후 10시 06분 55초 offset=0 timeZone=UTC
signature: description=My Sig id=60000 version=custom
subsigId: 0
sigDetails: My Sig Info
interfaceGroup:
vlan: 0
participants:
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port: 2269
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context:
fromTarget:
000000 FF FB 01 FF FB 03 FF FD 18 FF FD 1F 0D 0A 0D 0A ................
000010 55 73 65 72 20 41 63 63 65 73 73 20 56 65 72 69 User Access Veri
000020 66 69 63 61 74 69 6F 6E 0D 0A 0D 0A 50 61 73 73 fication....Pass
000030 77 6F 72 64 3A 20 FF FA 18 01 FF F0 word: ......
fromAttacker:
000000 FF FD 01 FF FD 03 FF FB 18 FF FB 1F FF FB 1F FF ................
000010 FA 1F 00 50 00 1E FF F0 FF FA 18 00 41 4E 53 49 ...P........ANSI
000020 FF F0 74 65 73 74 61 74 74 61 63 ..testattac
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reagards,
John.

I had this issue when I was preparing for my
CCIE security back in 2006 with IDS version
4.1 so it may or may not apply to your
situation. I was using Cisco IDS 4.1 with
Catalyst 3550s:
RouterA is connected to F0/1 and vlan 4
IDS sensing interface is connected to F0/2
IDS C&C is connected to F0/3 vlan 2
IDS Sensing interface is connected F0/5
RouterX is connected to F0/4 vlan 3
objective: From RouterX, telnet to RouterA.
When prompt for username, type username.
When prompt for password, enter "abcd".
At that time, the IDS will send a tcp reset
to RouterX thus reset the connection.
On the catalyst 3550:
monitor session 1 source vlan 4
monitor session 1 destination interface f0/5 ingress vlan 4
that will do the trick.
what I also found out from my preparation of
the lab is that is that the IDS will send
reset about 80% of the time. It did not work
the other 20% of the time, even though I
clearly saw it sent tcp reset in the IDS
event viewer. I also confirmed this
by running tcpdump on the IDS itself (yes,
with a trick you can do this). I could
not figure out why it behaved this way.
I passed the lab shortly after that so I
never followed up with it. However, if you
see a reset in the IEV but the connection
itself is not reset, probably a bug.

IDSM-2 TCP reset

Hi,
I have been trying to figure out how to get TCP reset working in IDSM-2.
Switch config,
monitor session 2 destination intrusion-detection-module 9 data-port 1
monitor session 2 source remote vlan 99
Custom testattack signature,
Log shows the signature has been triggered,
On the attacker, I ran a wireshark capture, but did not see any attempt to reset the TCP session.
Any idea what did I mis-configure ?
From what I have read, for native IOS, I don't have to configure anything for the TCP reset interface System0/1.
Regards.

Hi,
IDSM2 has a separate tcp-reset interface - System0/1 .In IDSM2, there is no need to explicitly configure the TCP Reset interface. The TCP Reset interface is automatically added to all necessary VLANs by the switch.
Once a signature is configured to perform the reset action, and if this is triggered, the reset will be sent out the reset port with the appropriate vlan tag attached. From the switch this is then sent to the appropriate vlan.
Thanks and Regards,
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Configure TCP Reset in IDSM

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Verify TCP reset is actually working

How do I see if the TCP reset is working,
I have IDM, IEV, IDS MC, and for some reason I cannot locate the information
Thanks in advance

Hi,
Beside logging direct to IDM or using IDS MC, you may use IEV to view the tcp reset action taken by the IDS.
1. Launch your IEV
2. Under 'View', double-click the "Sig Name Group".
2. Right-click the log associated to the signature you've selected, for example "TCP Segment Overwrite" (SID 1300)
I assumed you have already set the "EventAction" under your selected signature (tcp-based) to include 'reset'.
3. Back to IEV, right-click the signature log and choose 'Expand Whole Details'. A window will popup with details on the attack log.
4. Right-click this event, and choose 'View Alarms'.
5. Scroll to the right, and look under 'TCP Reset Sent'. If the stated value is 'true', the IDS has performed the tcp reset to the attack event.
Cheers!
AK

TCP Reset Feature

Hi!
I would like to realize the reset of a single TCP connection (Ip adress + port number) using a
CISCO IDS 4235,Version 4.1(5)S194, with a
PIX 520, IOS Version 6.3(3) and a
4500 router, IOS Version 12.0(8b).
Is it really possible by this hardware?
I think I need at least ROUTER IOS version 12.2(15), but I cannot do this upgrade on my device. Is it true?
Is the PIX able of resetting the single connection? Maybe IOS Ver 7.00 needed?
It's possible to upgrade PIX 520 ?
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TCP reset feature on the IDS by default will send out a TCP reset through the sniffing interface.
However, it sounds like you are talking about shun connection rather than tcp reset. A shun will effectively block the connection by applying a filter (rather than a packet to terminate the connection), it does this by applying this filter on your router or PIX.
On the PIX this is achieved through a filter function called a shun command. This is actually available on the version of PIX you are running (6.3.x)
On the Router an ACL is applied on an interface.
I hope that helps.
-jonathan

TCP Reset by appliance

Hi everyone,
I am unable to connect to ASA via ASDM it used to work before
here are logs
sh log | inc 12345
Feb 17 2015 20:50:25: %ASA-6-302013: Built inbound TCP connection 282191 for inside:10.0.0.10/51232 (10.0.0.10/51232) to identity:10.0.0.1/12345 (10.0.0.1/12345)
Feb 17 2015 20:50:25: %ASA-6-302014: Teardown TCP connection 282191 for inside:10.0.0.10/51232 to identity:10.0.0.1/12345 duration 0:00:00 bytes 578 TCP Reset by appliance
Feb 17 2015 20:50:25: %ASA-6-302013: Built inbound TCP connection 282192 for inside:10.0.0.10/51233 (10.0.0.10/51233) to identity:10.0.0.1/12345 (10.0.0.1/12345)
Feb 17 2015 20:50:25: %ASA-6-302014: Teardown TCP connection 282192 for inside:10.0.0.10/51233 to identity:10.0.0.1/12345 duration 0:00:00 bytes 578 TCP Reset by appliance
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asdm image disk0:/asdm-712.bin
no asdm history enable
pri/act/ASA1# sh run http
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http 10.10.10.0 255.255.255.0 inside
http 10.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 inside
http 10.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 outside
PC IP 10.0.0.10
ASA IP 10.0.0.1
Gives error unable to launch device .
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MAhesh

Issue was solved by installing correct java version 8.
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Mahesh

TCP reset interface

Hi,
I would like to know if we can assign a management interface as an alternate TCP reset interface?
If yes then how and if no then why?
Thanks in advance
Regards,
Vin

No a management interface can not be used an alternate TCP reset interface.
The management interface is controlled by a different driver/method than used for the monitoring interfaces. The sensorApp process can attach to and receive and transmit packets on the monitoring interfaces, but is not able to attach to the management interface and so can not transmit Resets out the management interface.

TCP RESET

Hi
How The IDS TCP Reset work. I get configure with the IDM but i need explanation of it. have any drawback of Reset function ??.
Thanks
Biplob

It works differently depending on whether you're in IDS or IPS mode.
IDS Mode
When the trigger packet is seen and the alert fires, 100 TCP RST's are sent from the sensors MONITORING port to both the client and server. These 100 RST's have incrementing SEQ/ACK numbers to give us a better chance of actually getting within the current window and effectively resetting the connection on both ends. (It's important to realise that it is not 100% guaranteed to actually RST the connection due to this sliding window). The RST's are obviously sent out with the actual client and server addresses in them to make it look like it came from the other end. Because they're sent out the monitor port, if this is set up using a "span" session on the switch then it's important to make sure you allow inbound packets on that port (by default span ports drop inbound packets).
IPS Mode
Because the sensor is now inline, as soon as the signature fires we send one RST to both ends of the connection and then stop transmitting any further packets on that connection.

TCP Reset Question

I have a query on TCP/IP communication. Let's say I have a cisco device running with http server disabled. If I send a TCP syn packet to the device with destination port 80/443(any non-listening port), will the device respond with TCP RESET? Or will it simply drop the packet without any acknowledgement?

I think this will be different from device to device:
ASA will drop denied connection to services it does not run, to make it send resets use the command "service resetoutside" to send reset to a denied TCP packet to outside interface.
Access Points will by default reset
Routers will by default reset
Switches will by default reset
Regards,
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TCP Reset and Blocking

I am configuring IPS 4270-20.
I want to know that how TCP Reset would reset a session without having an IP Address.
Secondly which interface would be used by ARC to controls blocking and rate limiting actions on managed devices.
Regards,
Shahzad.

Your switchports will be set to 'access' if you are using 'physical interface inline pair' mode and it will be a trunk when you are using 'inline vlan pair mode'.
And the following is one of Marc's post regarding alternate tcp reset, its rarely required:
"Under most installations the alternate tcp reset interface is not needed.
By default the TCP resets will go back out the same interface where the attack was detected.
So if your promiscuous interface is connected to a 100Mbps hub for monitoring then the tcp resets will be sent back out that same promiscuous interface into the hub.
Or if your promiscuous interface is connected to the span port of a switch, then the tcp resets will be sent back out the same promiscuous interface into that span port.
The issue becomes no whether the sensor can send the tcp resets, but if the switch will accept them. Many switches Will accept tcp resets coming in from the span port. Some switches just require an extra parameter on the span configuration to tell the switch to allow incoming packets from the span port.
BUT there are some switches that do NOT allow incoming packets from their span ports.
These ituations are the reason for the alternate tcp reset interface configuration.
It requires having 2 sensing interfaces (one for promiscuous monitoring, and the the other used as just the alternate tcp reset interface). The command and control port can NOT be used as the alternate tcp reset interface.
You connect the promiscuous interface up to the span port of the switch. You configure the second interface as the alternate tcp reset interface of the first promiscuous interface. Then plug the second interface into the saem switch (but do Not make the 2nd one a span port).
Now when the sensor detects an attack on the 1st interface it will NOT send the tcp resets out the 1st interface, but instead will send out the tcp resets on the 2nd interface.
Since the switch won't accept the tcp resets from the span port you need the second interface to get the tcp resets into the switch.
This can also be done with taps where the taps (because taps have no means of accepting incoming packets).
The alternate tcp reset interface configuration is ignored when configured for inline monitoring. It is only used with promiscuous monitoring. "
Regards
Farrukh

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