TD Shipment: Gain loss vs material on board
In a TD Shipment, if the entire loaded quantity is not delivered, is there always a gain/loss posted on closing the shipment? Can we have the remaining(load - discharge) quantity on board (on the vehicle), so that it can be used for delivering under different shipment?
Is there some customizing/ BADI to maintain (activate) these features?
In Delivery confirmation, you can use the 'Left On Vehicle' feature to retain the left over quantity in the Transport Unit's compartment. This avoids the load minus discharge difference posting and this quantity remains in the intransit storage location, from IM point of view. In a subsequent shipment where the same Transport Unit is in use, the left over quantity can be counted on as part of the load (using 'Prior To Load' feature) for which no transfer posting happens b'cos the material is already on-board (provided the dynamically determined storage location is same). It is also possible to rebrand this left over material segment if it differs from the current material segment being dispatched in which case a transfer posting happens.
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I am facing one issue with material ledger and seeking you suggestion.
There are 2 accounts 514000 (for ex gain) and 514001( for ex loss). Whenever there is gain/loss posting to these accounts wrt import MIRO, such gain/loss would get loaded on material through CKMLCP - costing cockpit execution. And it would generate opposit posting to these accounts.
(note: other gain/loss posting also go to these 2 accounts)
Per requirement, to have separate account for posting only import MIRO exchange gain/loss , I defined a substitution.So whenever there ex gain/loss system posts it to account 520001.
I ran one import cycle(PO, MIGO and MIRO), As per exchange rate in MIRO, there is ex gain posting to account 520001 as expected.
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Could you pl suggest why its not getting loaded on material.
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Thank you in advance
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Material Re Valuation Gain /Loss
Hi Experts,
I am doing MIRO but why Material Re valuation Gain /Loss (4123022) line item will generated ?
I had check PO Qyt & GR Qty, Rate also.
I am unable to understand ?
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Check following...
1. Rate for every items in PO and Invoce are same including tax.
2. Total of the above items = amount entered into the header.
Moreover, if there is a difference then it will hit the Price Difference account which wrongly mapped as Material reval. gain/loss account. check this setting for key PRD using transaction OBYC
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Chintan Joshi -
Accounting of foreign exchange gain /loss on imported material at invoice
Dear Experts,
This is with reference to the accounting of foreign exchange gain /loss on imported material at the time of invoice posting.
Presently all the capital expenditure related procurements are done against the WBSE as account assignment. The material is
procured against the project consumption account with WBS as the account assignment. Since the GR is done on day 1
at a particular exchange rate and the material is directly accounted for against the project consumption account,
there is no stock available.
The invoice is received subsequently and the same is accounted for on say Day 4 at another exchange rate, resulting in exchange gain/loss on account of difference in exchange rate between GR and IR. The same is accounted against a cost element with the additional account assignment as WBS derived from the purchase order.
However, the business requirement is to account for the foreign exchange gain/loss against the Cost center, since the
same cannot be capitalized as per the accounting standard.
In spite of maintaining the default cost center derivation against the foreign exchange gain/loss cost element in OKB9,
the invoice document line item is taking the account assignment from purchase order and not from OKB9.
We have referred the SAP note 105024 and implemented the same.
However, as per the note the following is possible "Use a substitution (Transaction OKC9) to transfer a cost center or a
statistical order as auxiliary account assignment to the document or to replace CO account assignment."
But when we are trying to check the same, the system is updating the required CO object i.e. cost center as auxiliary
account assignment and not as a replace CO account assignment.
We are looking at the option of replacing the WBSE with the cost center in the line item for CO account assignment.
Please help in this regard.
Thanks and Regards,
Mohd. Abdul Moghanihi,
in OBA1 settings please enter main bank account insteed of exchange gain or loss accounts. then that difference it will post to mail account only insteed of exchange gain or loss account.
with regards
Madana -
Unrealized Gain/loss from exchange rate
Hi all,
Please i need help , exchange rate fixed is checked in PO ,at the point of MIGO system use exchange rate in PO.When i check Accounting document in MIGO system Debit Stock account and Credit GR/IR account using exchange rate in PO ,but the difference of exchange rate in PO and system exchange rate, Debit Price diff. clearing account and Credit unrealized Gain/loss from exchange rate account ,I need to know if the posting is correct.Thanks. The Accounting Document was displayed as follows:
Stock account was Debited
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Incorrect value of Auto. Gain Loss Foreign Exchange during GR/IR clearing
Dear Experts,
We have activated the Material Ledger functionality.
The Document Currency of PO, GR, and IR are in Foreign Currency.
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Loc Currency 3 = IDR
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Loc Currency 3 = IDR
Doc currency = USD
Dr AP u2013 GRIR 7,560.45 Doc Curr./USD 75,000,000 Loc. Curr. 3/IDR
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Cr Forex AP- Current 0 Doc Curr./USD -1,360,469 Loc. Curr.3/IDR
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Can anyone inform me what is the probable cause of this incorrect Forex AP-Current calculation? What is the calculation basis that SAP system use to calculate this automatic Forex AP-Current?
Should you require any additional information, please let me know.
Thank you
Best regards,
Frans SunarjaHi
First once we have check the exchange rate types in OB08
second one you are no main the gain/loss a/c OB09 w are setting Loss/gain .
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suresh -
Incorrect value of Auto.Gain/Loss Forex during GRIR Clearing
Dear Experts,
We have activated the Material Ledger functionality.
The Document Currency of PO, GR, and IR are in Foreign Currency.
The postings are below:
Loc Currency 1 = USD
Loc Currency 3 = IDR
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GR
Dr Material 52,980,975 Doc Curr/IDR 5,340.80 Loc Curr 1/USD
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IR
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Loc Currency 1 = USD
Loc Currency 3 = IDR
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Dr AP u2013 GRIR 7,560.45 Doc Curr./USD 75,000,000 Loc. Curr. 3/IDR
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Dr Forex AP- Current 0 Doc Curr./USD 1,360,469 Loc. Curr. 3/IDR
Cr Forex AP- Current 0 Doc Curr./USD -1,360,469 Loc. Curr.3/IDR
The problem occured after GR/IR Clearing is performed. The system generated automatic Gain/Loss Foreign Exchange AP-Current with incorrect amount in Local Currency 3. That amount was not match with the delta exchange rate difference on the date of IR is performed and on the date of GR/IR Clearing is performed.
Can anyone inform me what is the probable cause of this incorrect Forex AP-Current calculation? What is the calculation basis that SAP system use to calculate this automatic Forex AP-Current?
Should you require any additional information, please let me know.
Thank you
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Frans SunarjaHi
First once we have check the exchange rate types in OB08
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suresh -
hi mm gurus,
my client has faced a problem
After reviewing their month end account they noticed that there are huge variances in Gl Code 429003 ( Stock Transfer Gain/Loss ) for different material... .
Grateful if you could revert to it and advise
Please advice the possibilities
Thanks in advance
subbuHi,
If you move a material from one plant to another and the valuation price is different you will get postings to this account.
You will also get postings to this account if the 309 movement type has been used (you must not use 309 to correct errors, it should only be used if a material has GENUINELY change to another material due to the passage of time).
To check what else could be posting to this GL there is a noce function hidden away.
Go to SPRO
Materials Management > valuation and account assignment > account determination > account determination without wizard > configure automatic postings
Get rid of any warning messages then click on the "GL accounts" icon (next to simulation). Enter the company code involved and you will get a list of every account that is automatically posted to. It will also give you some indication as to why it was posted (which transaction event key and account modifier was used).
thios si a really useful report for finding out (checking) which GL accounts are auto posted to via MM (and why)
Steve B -
Dear Experts,
I am stuck in a very serious problem
In import purchase Order for raw material we have configured a condition for import duty.
Now in current scenario the import duty has been invoiced before goods receipt there is a minor difference in amount invoiced and amount entered in purchase order.When the receipt is posted for this purchase order an abnormally high amount is posted into exchange rate difference account which is charged to material.
This makes the moving price of material very high.
The currency for purchase order is Dollars. We have maintained a conversion in FI table and purchase order as well.
Please suggest as to what is causing this abnormally high amount to be posted in exchange rate difference account.
Regards,
SohaibIt is a condition defined in Purchasing all the as Import Duty and calculation type is Fixed Amount.
This condition is used in import purchase order (PO currency USD). The invoice for this condition is posted in local currency which is PKR.
When Goods Receipt (105) is posted for this purchase order system doesnot convert the amount invoiced into equivalent PKR according to exchage rate specified in OB08. All amount in PKR is taken into USD with exchange rate equivalent to 1 and gain loss from this conversion is charged to material. e.g 314079 PKR is posted as 314079 USD and Gain/Loss which amounts to 27 million is charged to material. This makes MAP of material equivalent to 20000 PKR rather than 4000 PKR. -
Hi,
Scenario:
PO for qty 100
freight :10
GR done only for 99
Invoice to be paid fully.
But the the freight charges for qty 1 should go to inventory gain/loss acct not to material acct as it's going now in my case.
I am using MAP
Thx in advance
manOOHi,
No need for the thanks I am always glad to help (or to try to help to be more precise).
By using different freight condition types you can post the freight costs to a separate account if you want to. But if you have used the "normal" freight types then you can't just decide that the uninvoiced balance will go to a gains/loss account if the rest of it went to the stock account.
If you are using MAP then you should not be trying to post this to another account anyway, the MAP process expects all costs and gaines, losses etc. to be reflected in the stock account so that a true cost is captured (as true as it can be anyway).
I was thinking of suggesting that you receive the 1 left outstanding and then write it off, but this is a poor solution and would not affect the freight (after all even if the item was written off the system would still treat it as being delivered and so the freight would be due).
So I am very sorry but I don't think I can help with this one, but perhaps someone else can?
Steve B -
TD gain loss posting in receiving location : Config
HI All
any one of you able to tell me where is the place I can perform a config to post the gain loss at the receving storage location for STO related TD shipment.
rgdsTo be able to load a TD shipment you need a in-transit storage location per plant. This is customized in trans: O5AY. But it doesnu2019t have to be fixed. Please look at trans: O5A4 In this table, an intransit storage location can be maintained and allowed strategies. To be able to post gain/loss to the resaving storage location you have to load to that storage location in transaction O4G1 - Create/Change load.
If you customize transit location to be u201CAllow different intransit storage locationsu201D you can select any storage location in transaction O4G1 GOTO --> Transit loc/batch.
Regards
Torjus -
A/R and A/P invoices and credit memo realized currency gain/loss report
Hi,
We need some help in getting a report from SBO.
We would like to analyze their realized currency gain and loss account. We are lookiing into a report that shows the individual invoice/ credit memo foreign and local currency amount against the incoming / outgoing payment foreign and local currency amount.
Sometimes we would do direct offset invoices in the incoming / outgoing payment, and sometimes it would be thru internal reconciliation. We have look thru the tables for the past 2 days but could not find any link between the invoices and payments especially so when reconciliation is performed.
Can this report be done either in XL Reporter or in SQL? If yes, which tables are these information store?
Thanks.
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Whay PengHi Jimmy,
There is no need to run the exchange rate differences, when invoices that was offset during the incoming and outgoing payment. The realized currency gain/ loss account will be generated when the incoming and outgoing payment is made.
During reconcilation, yes we did run the exhange rate differences to get the realized currency gain / loss.
Could it be the two tables that you mentioned are storing information on the unrealised currency rate differences? We did not run exchange rates differences to provide for any unrealized gain/loss for the period, therefore the tables on our end is empty.
Regards,
Whay Peng -
FI Forex gain loss & Exchange Rate difference on Foreign Currency & Chart of Accounts
Dear All,
I have queries on following :
1) what is difference b/w Forex gain loss account & Exchange Rate difference on Foreign Currency account .
2) Under which Heads in Balance sheet they should come as per Indian Accounting Standards.
3) Are these accounts common for Vendor & customers or different.
4) they record FI data at Company code level or at sub-ledger level first (Vendor /Customer) .
4) Is it advised to use same Chart of Accounts to two companies in same country by using different GL's with different FSV?
Regards
MJHi M J,
Please note the answers below:-
1. It is one and the same thing. When you say forex gain/loss account, it means a GL account and exchnage rate difference means, the difference in rates at which you purchased/sold and the rate at which you made paid/collected.
2. Ask Client where they want to show these GL's in Financial statement Version.
3. The configuration setting is in OB09 and SAP allows you to keep same or diff GL for both realised Exchnage rate gain/loss. It depends on how you want to see. technically it is possible.
4. The Valuation is done at company code level, but individual records are picked up at vendor/customer level. It means that the revaluation gain/loss adjustment is not given to each individual Vendor/Customer, rather it is posted to a GL - Balance Sheet adj.
5. Yes, you can use same chart of accounts and you do not need to create separate GL's at the company code level for two company codes. Same GL's can be used as the posting is made at Co. code level.
Regards,
Kavita
Note : Please raise separate thread for different questions. Your Point No. 5 is not related to the rest. -
How to post gain/loss on exchange rate from Money Market
Dear Sap Expert,
I need your kindly help about posting gain/loss in Treasury with money market type.
My scenario use the product type 55A - Interest rate instrument and transaciton type = 200 borrowing in Foreign currency transaction as the transaction as belows,
Date Flow Type Name Amouunt currency Exchange rate Amt.Local currency
19.10.2011 1105 Borrowing 10,000 USD 30.00 300,000
30.10.2011 1120 Final repayment 10,000 USD 30.00 300,000
For the normally the system generate current exchange rate from the configuration .After that I try to change the Exchange rate manually in Flow type 1120 from 30.00 to be 31.00 then the Amt.in Local currency changed to be 310,000 and the flow type gain/loss from exchange rate does not generate ( In Loan Management I can do it)
On 19.10.2011 I use t-code TBB1 to post the borrowing transaction (1105)
On 30.10.2011 I use T-code TBB1 to post the Payment transaction but the gain/loss account does not happen.
For my question Can the system post document for flow tpe 1120 (on 30.10.2011) with exchange rate realized gain/Loss automatically? or how should I do to make it correctly.
Thank you very much for your suggestion.
PKHi,
your customizing for Derived Business Transactions requires DBT_B flows in your PMP in order to post realized gains/losses.
Regards,
Lorenz -
Exchange rate gain /loss is not posted in the contract
Hi Sap People,
Exchange rate gain /loss is not posted in the contract(cashflows). This is w.r.t SAP Banking Module.
The open items are posted with a certain exchange rate in the contract at the time of disburesment,while clearing thru FF68(incoming payment) with a new exchange rate the items
are cleared with the same exchange rate and the Exchange gain/loss is posted as zero.
Regards
RaviHi,
Check the exchange rate type for the disbursement. It is M for FF68. Check in configuration the exchange rate type. Also check the exchange rates maintained in OB08 for this exchange rate type and confirm if there is any difference.
Is it Loans module?
Regards,
Ravishankar
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