Technical/business system for non-SAP system

Hi,
I want to use a webservice from a non-SAP system.
It is necessary to define a technical and business system in zhe sld for that non-SAP system?
When yes, is this a standalone or a 3rd party system?
Thanx

I want to use a webservice from a non-SAP system.
It is necessary to define a technical and business system in zhe sld for that non-SAP system?
When yes, is this a standalone or a 3rd party system?
you dont need to create Business system in Sld for 3rd party just u need to create business component in id directly.
please refer SCN for how to create Bus.component.

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Can anyone explain me how to create a technical system and buisness system for R/3. i want to know while creating buisness system for R/3 in SLD we need to provide logical system name. Creation of that logical system shld b done in XI box or in R/3 system? if u know any weblogs which explaine step by step procedure how to create TS and BS in SLD then pls. send it across.?
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