Technical System vs Business system jms

Hi,
So i should create third party business system or use business service from your reply.
--Create Business System with ABAP-WebAS system for R/3 system.
How does this idoc know to flow through my integration scenario during runtime?
You need to create a RFC destination in R/3 system which will point towards the XI port. When you will configure your partner profile ( Outbound ) from R/3 to XI, in the receiver port details you need to provide a RFC destination details which will point to XI.
Let me know if you need more details.
Nilesh

Similar Messages

Technical systems and Business systems in SAP XI

can any one tell me ,breifly explain the diff b/w <b>Technical Systems</b> & Business Systems?
steps to create Techincal system and Business systems?
and also Steps for creating Software Components? For Technical System we can create more than one Business systems ,what it means?can any one explain?

Hi
First I let u know with analogy and actual definition as below
Any module of SAP like MM, SRM, FICO ets makes a logical system in combination according to business requirements is a business system which is actualy hosted on an application server like ABAP AS or Java AS which is basically a technical system.
Technical systems are application systems that are installed in system landscape (a CRM server, for example). Most systems (Web AS ABAP and Web AS Java systems) automatically report information to the SLD about the elements that they contain by using the SLD data supplier programs. You need to manually register the following types of system only:
Standalone Java systems
Third-party systems
Business systems are logical senders or receivers that exchange messages by using SAP XI and that are entered in the System Landscape Directory.
The business systems in the System Landscape Directory relate to a system landscape.
The business systems of business partners are not entered in the System Landscape Directory. To be able to address such business partners logically, use services in the Integration Directory. A business system is a way of specifying a service in the Integration Directory more precisely (business system service).
U can also refer Blog's
Re: Difference betweeen Technical systems and Business systems
For creation of software component see link
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/3172d290-0201-0010-2b80-c59c8292dcc9
<b>Reward point if it help u understand
</b>
Message was edited by:
Ajay Kumar

Creation of technical system and business system

Hi Guys,
Im just a beginner in SAP XI..I would like to know what will be the setup in my SLD .
My data will be coming from MS SQL and will transfer it to SAP R/3.
Is it true that I need to setup the Technical system , one for my Sender (data coming from sql ) and
one for my Receiver (data will transfer to SAP R/3).
about the Business system? do i need to create buss system for Sender and receiver?
Please help.
Thanks in advance.
aVaDuDz

Hi,
you don't have to create technical system for R/3 you should better use tcode RZ70 for selfregistering:
The specified item was not found.
And for this technical system you should create also a business system.
You should create a technical and business system for your MS SQL if it's inside of your system landscape.
Here is a good explanation:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nwpi71/helpdata/en/43/01ea90ab24235de10000000a1553f7/frameset.htm
Regards
Patrick
Edited by: Patrick Koehnen on Oct 2, 2008 10:26 AM

About ABAP Technical Systems and Business Systems

Hi experts,
I have an Integration scenary with XI and an R3 vía RFC. I've already created it in the development environment and when I'm going to transport to Consolidation and Production I find that the ABAP Business System related to the ABAP Technical System of the R3 have a different name from the development one.
In the Integration Repository everything its OK because my scenario is developped on a third party system BS and TS. The problem is in the Directory because of the BS of the Message interfaces....
I think that transport Directory scenario with .tpt wont work. I'll probably have to develop it in each environment... What do you think?
Regards
Gonzalo

This is what you need to do to move from Dev to QA.
1. Go to Dev SLD and Export all your SWCV, Products, Technical and Business Systems. This is nothing but saving of the SLD objects as a CIM file on your local machine. You would also need to export the Technical And Business System poitning to your XI integration server .
2. Go to the QA SLD and then import these objects exported in Step 1 in QA SLD
3. Now, create the QA Tech and Business Systems in the QA SLD
4. Go to the Dev Business systems imported on the QS SLD and you will have an option Transport Targets. In this map the Source Business System to the Target Business Systems.
Make sure that all Dev Business Systems have the correspodning Transport Targets for the QA Business SYstems
5. Now if you import the ID objects in QA , the business systems name will be renamed automatically.
Regards
Bhavesh

Difference betweeen Technical systems and Business systems

Hi
In a SLD we need to configure technical systems and Business systems.. what is the exact difference between Technical Systems and Business Systems..
this question is asked an interview.. for this.. how can we explain..
thanks
babu

Hi babu
First I let u know with analogy and actual definition as below
Any module of SAP like MM, SRM, FICO ets makes a logical system in combination according to business requirements is a business system which is actualy hosted on an application server like ABAP AS or Java AS which is basically a technical system.
Technical systems are application systems that are installed in system landscape (a CRM server, for example). Most systems (Web AS ABAP and Web AS Java systems) automatically report information to the SLD about the elements that they contain by using the SLD data supplier programs. You need to manually register the following types of system only:
Standalone Java systems
Third-party systems
Business systems are logical senders or receivers that exchange messages by using SAP XI and that are entered in the System Landscape Directory.
The business systems in the System Landscape Directory relate to a system landscape.
The business systems of business partners are not entered in the System Landscape Directory. To be able to address such business partners logically, use services in the Integration Directory. A business system is a way of specifying a service in the Integration Directory more precisely (business system service).
Reward point if it help u understand

Technical Systems and Business Systems

Hello Everybody!!!
I have some doubts, can you help me, please???
1) Technical Systems are application(software) systems, ok? They aren't hardware systems, ok?
2) In my SLD I should have a SAP ECC system as a technical system and each of their clients as a bussiness system, ok?
3) For third-party systems, where the client concept doesn't exist, I should have one technical system and only one business system for my third-party system, ok?
thanks a lot
Julio

hi julio ,
           ur view is correct except in the technical system .
1)   technical systems are the physically located systems in which we can create only technical system for any physically located system .
2)   bussiness systems are logical systems . according to the type of technical system we can create the no of bussiness systems .
   technical system of type W AS ABAP we can create multiple business systems as there is the concept of clients .
   technical system of   third party   we can not create more than one business system as there is no matter of client .
3)   so for every third party systems only one   business system will be there .
some important points :.
    atleast one   business system will be there on   any   system .
we can   create   more than one   business   system on third party systems .

Business System and Technical System ??

Hi Experts,
Please tell, What is the Technical System and Business System. How many Technical and Busniess Systems do we have in XI ?
Early responses are welcome.

Hi,
Business systems:
Business systems are logical systems, which function as senders or receivers within PI. Business systems can be SAP systems or third-party systems.
Depending on the associated technical system, the following types of business systems are defined in the SLD:
Web AS ABAP:
A business system, which is associated with a Web AS ABAP.
A business system, which is associated with a Web AS ABAP, can play the role either of an application system or an integration server. An integration server is the central component of PI, which provides a framework for the exchange of information among various internal and external entities of a company. The integration server facilitates the interaction between the different operating systems and applications across internal and external networks.
Web AS Java:
A business system, which is associated with a Web AS Java.
Standalone:
A business system, which is associated with a standalone Java application.
Third-party:
A business system, which is associated with a third-party technical system.
Technical systems:
Technical systems are application systems that are installed in your system landscape. An example of an application system is a Customer Relationship Management (CRM) server. In the SLD, there are five types of technical systems:
Web AS ABAP:
Web AS ABAP technical systems, ranging from any SAP system to an APO server or CRM server, are based on the same Basis Component (BC), which includes the ABAP interpreter, ABAP Dictionary, ABAP Workbench, and so on. A dedicated database, which stores most of the data of the BC and the application components, is associated with the system.
Web AS Java:
Web AS Java systems consist of one or more instances and each instance is installed on a separate host. An instance itself consists of cluster nodes that can communicate with each other.
Standalone Java:
Standalone Java technical systems are standalone Java applications that are installed in a computer system from an administration perspective. They can also be installed as an operating system service or as a daemon.
Third-Party:
Third-party technical systems contain third-party software components and products.
Regards,
Prakasu

Use of Business Systems and Technical Systems

Hi
What is the use of having business systems and technical systems in SAP XI. I don't see any configuration details needed to create these. I understand that it logically divides the interfaces into different business systems but is that the only use? The only place I see the real configuration done is in the adapter configuration.
Vijay

Vijay,
The technical system actually works better for our non-SAP systems than the SAP systems. Here is our scenario:
We have an AS400 business system that uses a file adapter to send files to XI and then uploaded to SAP ECC. The file adapter does not ask for the system information so we can switch between dev and test by changing the DNS address in the technical system entry (dynamic reference like a property file lookup). The communication channel settings do not have to change.
The receiver is SAP using an RFC adapter which requires the system ID, and client (hard coded). Everytime we change clients, we have to change the settings in the RFC adapter. This is more to your point of why do we have a technical system if we have to provide the settings in the adapter as well. The RFC adapter should read the application server and client values from it's parent business system so the changes don't have to be made everytime we point to a new client( such as QA). This is irritating.
So maybe the theory is good but the implementation could be better in this case.
Thanks,
Troy

When I can reuse Business and Technical Systems in IR and ID

Assuming the case(1 scenario) when I already created All SLD object Business System , technical system, SWC and product for interface scenario when file is send from R/3 MM module(Outbound) to XI through File adapter and than mapped and send to 3 party partner via firewall ftp server... All SLD object exists and are created.
In a different scenario(2 Scenario) the 3 party partner will have to send via XI some MM related data and XI will have to feed this data into R/3 via different type adapter – this time Idoc adapter(Inbound)
My questions are:
1)In 2 scenario - Can I use same already created 2 Business systems for both R/3 and 3 party partner or I need to create new ones?
Or at lease can use one of the business systems. With words – is the Business system dependable on type of adapter, inbound/outbound ?What is the criteria for reusing business system for second scenario?
2)In 2 scenario -Can I use same already created Technical systems for both R/3 and 3 party partner or I need to create new ones?
Same questions here...for technical system - can I reuse it and when I need newone...
Thanks all
Regards
Jon

1. If u r posting data to the same R/3 with same client then u can use same WebAS ABAP Business System. U can use same third party business system for this.
The criteria for reuse is just that if the systems are same (in case of R/3 - the clients should be same), then u should reuse it.
2.Only 1 Technical system is created for one R3 system. This will be of type WebAS ABAP. So u will have to use same Technical system for both the scenario
For 3rd party case, u can use different technical system, but that would be redundant. So better to use one.
Regards,
Prateek

SLD Configuration - Technical System and Business System

Hello,
I have installed SAP Solution Manager with local SLD and i want to use this system as Central SLD for my System Landscape. Later on i have installed other SAP Products like ECC,BI,PI etc.
Some of the systems i registered with previously defined SLD in Solution Manager, but some system i forgot to register with SLD during installation.
I am not sure or aware what is the difference between SLD configuration during installation and after installation.
If i have Register the System during installation will it register automatically with SLD or we have to do manually.
If i have not register system during installation and later on i want to register particular system with SLD what is procedure for that.
Can some one share knowledge on What is Technical Systems and Business System in SLD Configuration, i tried to do some activity for SLD Configuration but after seeing above both terms i was confused so for time being i stopped this activity.
Looking forward for kind response.
Best Regards,
V.Singh

Hello
try to go through these
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nwesrce/helpdata/en/45/4208934d7f1193e10000000a1553f7/content.htm
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/652b1f46-0a01-0010-25ae-e7cb07b55414

Technical system and Business system

Hi All
I am new XI.
Why we have WEB AS JAVA, WEB AS ABAP, THIRD PARTY etc etc in Technical system and Business system and when we will use that ?
Thanks
ss

Hi,
When we try to connect any other SAP R/3 system using XI, we need to create a business system in SLD.
Similarly for third party and WEB AS Java systems.
You will be using these in many scenarios.
Go thro the link for more info.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04s/helpdata/en/42/c817d9d2296bb2e10000000a1553f6/frameset.htm
Regards,
P.Venkat

Technical system - business system doubt

Hi,
I am facing a strange problem. I had a logical system maintained in my technical system. When I process idocs the idoc has a partner number field filled, and it is the logical system name that I maintain in the technical system. That was giving me an error saying that the partner number doesn't exist in the system and the idocs were going into 56 status.
I later on removed the logical system name from the technical system. But still when I process idocs, through XI the logical system name/partner number in the idoc, is the previous one maintained in the technical system. Is it not supposed to change now since I've removed it from the technical system. I even refreshed and reimported the objects. It still doesn't work.
Regards,
Vijay

HI,
GOto your Business system in the Integration directory and select it.
ON the right hand side Goto Service--> Adapter specific identifiers.
If this is the older one, then goto change mode and get it sync with the middle button. If it's still not getting updated,
then goto Integration Builder page> administration Integration directory>Cache overview>SLD Cache.
Just refresh the Business system again.
Regards
Vijaya

Differentiate b/w Technical System, Business System and Business Service

Hi all,
I'm new to XI. I was asked two questions. Any one answer the following, plzz.
a) Difference between Business System and Business Service
b) Difference between Technical System and Business System

Hello Gopi,
a) Business System is a logical representation of a Technical System.
Business Service is a abstract representation of a System. For instance, www.google.com have a several system working together and IPs of this machines change eventually. When we use a Business Services like google we reference a computer that we don't know the phisical implementation.
b) Technical system is a phisical machine, it have a IP. Can be a BBDD, ERP, J2EE ......... a Business System is a logical term that we use into the Business Scenarios and represent these Technical System that we had created.
Hope it's help you
Best Regards
Iván Prieto

Reg Technical System & Business System Creation

Hi,
Am trying to create a Technical System in my SLD for my ECC6.0 installation.The System got created and my problem is when i create my Business system out of it.When i try to create a Business System am not able to do so and i get an error as below:
"No products are defined for the selected technical system
Define the installed products in theTechnical System View "
also when i try to add products am not able to do so.what could be the problem.I need solution to this very urgentlg.
Am on SAP Netweaver SP09 stack.
Can someone help me out.I want to create a Business system to use it in my XI Integration.
Regards,
Karthik

Karthik,
Is your SLD on Stand alone java or is it on dual stack? If it is on a dual stack system, login to your ECC system and register your ECC system with the SLD using RZ70.
-RK

Same Technical System multiple Business systems?

Hello,
We have a unique (atleast i felt it) landscape where we have 2 Prod PI system. We have divided out interfaces logically into 2 categories and they will run on the respective prod system. Both this prod have its own SLD and hence there is no issue here.
The issue is with the Pre-Prod where like prod we have 2 PI systems (and 2 integration servers) but they both share the same SLD. We have only one SAP R/3 backend system and hence we have only one technical system in the SLD but this SAP R/3 system has to connect to both the Pre-prod systems for different interfaces. For this to happen we have to create 2 Business systems with the respective PI pre-prod Integration Server. But SLD doesnt allow to create 2 business systems for the same technical systems.
Is there any way around this as we cannot change the SAP R/3 system and also cant have different client in R/3 for each of PI Pre prod.
This is a major roadblock and requires your expert advice on how to proceed in this scenario.
Regards,
Yash

Shitij,
You are correct in understanding that the requirement is to create 2 business systems for the same technical system with same SID (S*1) and same client.
The reason i need this is because I have 2 PI system P1 and P2 with 2 different integration server which share the same SLD. Now when i create a business system for S1 i specific the inegration server for P1 and add this business system in the transport target for P*1.
How will i do the same for P2? I cannot create a new business system for S1 with integration server of P2 and add it in the transport target for P2. If i dont do it i cannot do any transports as it will give error like no Business system found in SLD.
Hope i made it clear.
Yash

Technical System vs Business system jms

Similar Messages

Maybe you are looking for