Technique to undo a character format application?

Hi,
Seems that answers to complicated questions are a bit sparse in these parts, but I'll try again anyway
I'm wondering if there is any technique to reliably undo a character format application change; that is, an application of properties to a range of text with SetTextProps(). It is fairly simple to remember a list of original properties (PropVals) and the original text range (TextRange), then reapply those original properties to the whole range. However, within a text range, each character can have its own unique set of properties. So, remembering one set of original properties is not enough... seems I have to remember the properties of every single character in the range, the reapply character-by-character, in order to ensure that the new property application is completely undone.
When you apply a character format in the GUI, FM reliably allows an undo, restoring each affected character to its original state. Surely it isn't remembering a PropVals array for every single character (?) I'm just wondering if there is another trick here. It's entirely possible if FM is internally using another trick, it isn't one that I can feasibly replicate.
Thanks,
Russ

Hi Jang (you might need to look at this on the forum websie),
Effectively, I want to be able to restore a range of text to its original format, after the original format is completely overwritten. For example:
Here is someTEXT
Imagine that someone applies a character format that wipes all that out:
Here is some text
I want to restore the text to its original format. In the GUI, the FrameMaker Undo command successfully does that. I have a script that applies formatting and I'd like to replicate the undo, if its feasible. Naturally, the FM undo will not undo a script action.
I am talking about text ranges only. By the way, how do you store a "safety paragraph?" Using the clipboard is not an option in this case.
Thanks,
Russ

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