Template Expressions in Library Items?

Hi All,
The quick question is this: can template expressions be made
to work inside library items?
Here’s the situation…
The page:
http://www.fretbank.com/basics/intervals/index.html
I have a 3-tier template structure in place – 1-Root,
2-General Page Structure, 3-Topic Categories.
If you look at the page, I have buttons below the header that
point to different topics. Each topic has several pages. All of the
pages from each topic are child-pages from a specific Tier-3
template.
The buttons use template parameters/expressions on the Tier 3
temp. to determine the state of the button.
I currently have to copy the code for the button nav into
each topics template and any changes have to be made in each
template. I am going to be adding many more topics and want to find
a shortcut. I guess I could make a 4th template tier and have each
of the category templates be children of that, but I’m hoping
to avoid this. It would be easiest to be able to make a library
item and paste it where I need.
I thought about using SSI’s but that wouldn’t
work with the expressions. Any other suggestions?
Thanks,
Troy
here's the code if it helps:

> Is having the link outside the div a problem in older
browsers?
It's invalid HTML. That's enough for me. And I suspect it
would be a
problem somewhere, as you are trying to make the entire
<div> tag a link.
> This allows me to only have to change each of these nav.
elements on one
> page.
I would opt for a single template structured so that changes
to CSS could
'specify' the particular section layout. Then I would choose
server-side
includes for the navigation elements, and place them into
strategically
placed editable regions of the single template, depending on
which section
you are needing to navigate.
Having only a single template is not only possible, it's MUCH
simpler than
nesting them.
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> Thanks for the reply Murray.
>
> A couple clarifications and questions. Sorry for the
length, but I felt it
> was
> better to be clear than concise.
>
> I am using nested templates.
>
> Since I posted the topic, I have changed my structure a
bit, trying to
> find a
> balance between flexibility and work load.
>
> I have a root template with has headers and common
includes.
>
> From the root template I nest multiple MAIN CATEGORY
templates for primary
> areas of the site. These templates contain the nav
buttons just below the
> header.
>
> From the MAIN CATEGORY temps I nest several SUB CATEGORY
templates for
> each
> topic in the category, which contain the code for the
"Quick Nav" box at
> the
> bottom of the page.
>
> The individual pages of the site are then built from the
sub category
> pages.
> The reason for all of the nesting is this: The MAIN
CATEGORY temps contain
> the
> code for the nav buttons and are built using temp.
expressions that look
> to a
> main category param on each of the sub category pages.
Depending on the
> param., the button that corresonds to which Main
Category you are in will
> be
> black (via CSS class)
>
> One the sub cat. temps the Quick nav link relative to
which page you are
> on
> will be black (also via CSS class)
>
> This allows me to only have to change each of these nav.
elements on one
> page.
> All of the different MAIN CAT. temps allow me to focus
advertising based
> on
> the subject. Maybe there is a better way to populate the
ads to different
> categories that I am not aware of? Is there a way to
have the button/links
> reflect the category/page you are on using only CSS? I
don't want to have
> to
> copy and paste changes to multiple pages when the
nav/topics change.
>
> ****
> I put the <a> tags inside the <div> tags,
based on multiple people telling
> me
> that I shouldn't do it the other way around. I hadn't
encountered any
> problems
> and liked that the whole button became a link. Is having
the link outside
> the
> div a problem in older browsers? I tested it this way in
IE7, Firefox2.0,
> Safari, and Opera, and it worked.
>
>

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> I'm not sure if this is a PM issue or a DWCS3 issue. The
only way to find
> out
> is to ask.
> I have gone through the process of creating a a library
item of a
> PopMagic menu according the the video provided by P7.
Works well.
> Then I added the library item to an existing DWCS3
template and saved
> it. When I attempt to create "new from template" page
from the template
> menu, I get this error message
>
>
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>
> If I do the same with a template without the menu, the
> error message goes away.
>
> If I create a page with from a template where I've left
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the page, I also
> get the error message, but the page seems to work ok.
>
> Since I can't create a new page with the template, I
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>
>
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>
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>
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>I have setup a dynamic menu and created a library item
from it. When I
>insert
> it into a new document (or update the library item) the
urls within it
> keep
> getting the prefix /library/ added and so don't work:
>
> original menu
> ===========
>
> <div id="lhsidemenu">
>
> <?php
require_once('Connections/ecommercetemplate_523.php'); ?>
> <?php
> mysql_select_db($database_ecommercetemplate_523,
$ecommercetemplate_523);
> $query_categorymenu = "SELECT sectionID, sectionName
FROM sections ORDER
> BY
> sectionName ASC";
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$ecommercetemplate_523)
> or
> die(mysql_error());
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> $row_categorymenu['sectionID']; ?>" ><?php echo
> ucwords($row_categorymenu['sectionName']);
?></a></li>
> <?php } while ($row_categorymenu =
> mysql_fetch_assoc($categorymenu)); ?>
> <?php
> mysql_free_result($categorymenu);
> ?>
>
</div>
>
> Menu after becomin a library item
> ==========================
> 
> <div id="lhsidemenu">
>
> <?php
> require_once('
library/Connections/ecommercetemplate_523.php'); ?>
> <?php
> mysql_select_db($database_ecommercetemplate_523,
$ecommercetemplate_523);
> $query_categorymenu = "SELECT sectionID, sectionName
FROM sections ORDER
> BY
> sectionName ASC";
> $categorymenu = mysql_query($query_categorymenu,
$ecommercetemplate_523)
> or
> die(mysql_error());
> $row_categorymenu = mysql_fetch_assoc($categorymenu);
> $totalRows_categorymenu = mysql_num_rows($categorymenu);
> ?>
> <?php do { ?>
>
<a href="
library/products.php?cat=<?php echo
> $row_categorymenu['sectionID']; ?>" ><?php echo
> ucwords($row_categorymenu['sectionName']);
?></a></li>
> <?php } while ($row_categorymenu =
> mysql_fetch_assoc($categorymenu)); ?>
> <?php
> mysql_free_result($categorymenu);
> ?>
>
</div>
>
>
> doe anyone know how to resolve this? thanks
>

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Hey there dreamweaver users
Just a quick question it might sound dumb but im new to the dreamweaver world and would be greatful if you could answer this question i have.
I have made a template for my site and i wish to update all the child pages with a library item i have inserted into the main template,
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I'm trying to use library items in a template but Dreamweaver
8 keeps on adding extra
extra closing tags. Is there some trick to using them?

Why are you using Library items in a template?
Can you show me the Library item, and an example of the extra
closing tags?
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> My question is, should i put
> the library item in an editable region on its own, or
what.
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irrelevant to the
function of the file itself). HOWEVER, if the include file is
named with an
extension that DW doesn't recognize, then you will not get a
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with the *.htm(l)
extension. Alternatively, if you *really* like
'*.monkeybutt', you can add
this extension to the list of file extensions that DW
recognizes -
http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=tn_16410&sliceId=1
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>i have created a template and on the side i have a list
of links that i
>change
> regularly (not in editable region). I dont want to
upload all my files
> everytime i change a link in the list, so i thought a
library item would
> be the
> go. However, when i update the file it changes the
template and it updates
> every file, that means i have to upload all files. My
question is, should
> i put
> the library item in an editable region on its own, or
what.
> thanks
>

How to make DW see Templates and Library items

I imported a site from another computer. Now it cannot see templates as templates or library items as library items. I am downloading the files from the server. The templates folder is there, but they are not showing up in the assets panel. They are also not updating when I save them.
How do I make DW see the templates and library items? It is a large site and I really don't want to have to recreate everything.

I just had this problem and this is how I solved it:
1. Create a brand new template (can be empty) and save it
2. See where dreamweaver puts it in the files panel(more than likely will create a new template folder)
3. Completely move all templates from your previous template folder to the new one DW just created.
4. Voila - now check you templates under assets.
Caution:
1. First only copy one template to the new folder and check assets to test this theory before deleting the ones in the previous folder (if it works do be sure to delete the others)
2. To tell if a template actually works, select it then hit delete, if it simply warns you this can't be undone the template is NO GOOD. If it gives you a list of links you will destroy THAT'S THE ONE YOU WANT TO KEEP. The templates in the new folder should give you a list of links, any templates any where else will just give you a regular delete/warning message.
Hope this solution works for you, I'm just trying to help.
Michelle

Dreamweaver Stopped asking if I want to update Library Items and Templates

Hi All,
Using dreamweaver on a new project. Set up my Templates and library items and everything was fine - when I changed one a saved it a dialogue popped up and asked me if I wanted to update files. Suddenly the dialog box has stopped appearing and now I have to instigate it manually by going to modify->templates->update pages which is annoying and more time consuming.
Why has the automatic dialogue disappeared and how do i get it back?
Thanks

Sorry for the late reply. I'm still having the problem and appreciate the help. Attached is the requested screen shot. Everything is in order I think. Its a big site though and the whole thing won't fit in one screen shot. What are you looking for specifically?

Using CSS instead of or with library item

I built my site using Dreamweaver 8. I used the design view
exclusively. I made a navigation bar as a library item. Utilizing
rollovers, etc. Now I have learned I should build my site utilizing
CSS and as was pointed out on this forum to me, to learn CSS and
HTML.
I am having a brain freeze. The logic escapes me as to how I
would build a navigation bar and put it on each page as I did
utilizing the library function before.
I am sure for all you pro's this is a really dumb and obvious
thing but I just don't seem to figure out the logic how to do it. I
am not talking about the CSS for the behaviors such as hover,
visited, active. This I know how to do. It is just the ability to
have a properly designed navbar and be able to put it on every page
I make.
Murry "ACE" told me not to use AP and the dreaded mm_menus so
I am trying to figure this out and build a better more code
efficient site. Mine works but is quite trashy in the code.

It can be a bit daunting.
Try going through this tutorial completely. It's a bit out of
date (using
an older version of DW), and still covers the use of tables,
but it's worth
reinforcing your basic understandings -
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/dreamweaver/articles/first_website_pt1.html
Then I would suggest you do this tutorial -
Taking a Fireworks comp to a CSS-based layout in Dreamweaver
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/fireworks/articles/web_standards_layouts_pt1.html
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/fireworks/articles/web_standards_layouts_pt2.html
Finally, to get a grip on how to manage menus across an
entire site, use
DW's F1 help about how to use Templates, and server-side
includes.
Templates do make your life much easier. I use the following
scheme....
First, I mentally separate the page layout into three
sections:
1. Stuff that will not change for the life of the site (i.e.,
the basic
structural elements)
2. Stuff that *could* change from time to time (e.g.,
navigation elements,
burst advertisements, section-specific navigation, etc.)
3. Stuff that *will* change from one page to the next
Then I create a template containing all class1 elements. Next
I create
server-side include files containing all class 2 elements and
place them on
the template as needed. Note - some of the class 2 elements
may be
"section-specific elements", and their placement on the
template will be
subject to the next item. Finally, I insert editable regions
to cover the
class 3 items, INCLUDING the section-specific navigation.
This allows me to just cookie-cut the rest of the site. I
estimate that
even for fairly large sites, about 80% of my work goes into
planning and
creating this template file.
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"craigmini" <[email protected]> wrote in
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>I built my site using Dreamweaver 8. I used the design
view exclusively. I
> made a navigation bar as a library item. Utilizing
rollovers, etc. Now I
> have
> learned I should build my site utilizing CSS and as was
pointed out on
> this
> forum to me, to learn CSS and HTML.
>
> I am having a brain freeze. The logic escapes me as to
how I would build a
> navigation bar and put it on each page as I did
utilizing the library
> function
> before.
>
> I am sure for all you pro's this is a really dumb and
obvious thing but I
> just
> don't seem to figure out the logic how to do it. I am
not talking about
> the CSS
> for the behaviors such as hover, visited, active. This I
know how to do.
> It is
> just the ability to have a properly designed navbar and
be able to put it
> on
> every page I make.
>
> Murry "ACE" told me not to use AP and the dreaded
mm_menus so I am trying
> to
> figure this out and build a better more code efficient
site. Mine works
> but is
> quite trashy in the code.
>

Dreamweaver Teamplate with Library Item for Navigation/Sidebar not updating editable classes

I have a Dreamweaver Template that contains two Library items. One Library item is my navigation bar, the other is a sidebar that shows different content depending on what page you are on. I'm assigning an editable class "active" to the navigation bar to show you are on a particular page, and also assigning the editable class "active" to the sidebar to reveal a portion of the sidebar with links pertaining to that specific page. The default value for the class is "hidden". So what is happening is when I open a page I have created and "edit" the Library Items in it to edit these classes, it resets resets all the other pages on the site to the default class values. How am I able to use editable classes and Library Items to achieve this kind of functionality? The idea is to only have ONE navigaton bar to update on the site and to only have ONE sidebar item to update. Here is an example of the sidebar and navigation in action so you can see what I'm going for. Notice the green button in the navigation bar (that is a list item with the class "active" which is an editable class in the Library Item, also notice the tan links in the sidebar, that is an unordered list that has an editable class of "active" in the Library Items --- these editable classes reset to their defaults when updating the Library Item on the website).
http://www.brumleve.org/joe/temp/CAP/mission.html

In my understanding, whenever you edit the contents of a library item, it will update all other occurances of this library item on the rest of the site. That's "working as designed" as far as I know, unless you break the link by telling it to not update - which kinda defeats the purpose I think.
But theres another way to do this using template properties, i#ve been using this approach myself a couple of times:
Write your navigation bar in the template (.dwt) file itself, then select the class= of your first menu item and choose .. (names might be off, I am using a non-English copy of DW): "modify > template > make attribute editable" from the main menu. Do so for all your menu items and name these new template properties something like "item_x_class"
You'll end up with something like this in your template source:
<div class="@@(item_1_class)@@">
and a matching
 in the header
Now, on each page, you can set the class within the template properties dialog ("modify > template properties"). If your main menu changes, it won't overwrite your template properties, but still update all pages when you do make a change to the menu.
If you're using multiple templates for your site, consider nesting templates, so the master template already includes your navbar and all subsequent templates will "inherit" changes to the navbar code (sans the editable class property).
Hope this helps.. or at least gives you an idea for further experiments..
Stephan

How to use a Spry Menu as a Library item?

Okay, this is my second post; but, with a different title.
I made a Spry menu for my Home Page. I saved it and a logo
together as a library item and placed the library item on a second
page. The links in the menu work when there is no style sheet
attached for the Spry meny and the menu appears just as text; but,
as soon as the .css style sheet for the menu is attached to the
second page, the menu appears correct except the drop down menus do
not work. I tried adding a link to the Spry Java Script file as it
is on the home page; still no luck.
I tried the same with a test file, which I have since
removed, stored at the same folder as the home page; same problem.
How are we suposed to make a workable library item with a
Spry Menu? Surely this is possible, no?
Here are the two pages I am referring to:
Good Page:
http://iculver.com/
Bad Page:
http://iculver.com/pages/AboutUs/Personal_info.html

Apologies - my mistake. You are correct, and my instructions
were
incomplete. That other bit is required too.
> Now, I thought (probably in error) that items after !--
were comments, but
> it
> seems to be required, too. I tried eliminating taht part
and the menus did
> not
> work. I need all of this last part.
The comments 'hide' the scripting from validators and older
browsers, but
it's still recognized as javascript, since the comments occur
INSIDE a
<script> tag.
> these Spry Menus in Libraries easier to use...)
It's not so hard once you get all the pieces together.
1. Create the library item as described.
2. Make sure that each page that is to carry this library
item has the
required links in the head (to the CSS and the js files), AND
in the body.
Why not use a template instead? That way, all of these links
are managed
for you.
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"JustBob" <[email protected]> wrote in
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> Hummm...
>
> Now, don't yell at me, okay? I'm a goLive switcher and
really a graphic
> designer, not a coder...
>
> So, It seems from the above message that I am to
establish the links to
> the
> script and the css file before inserting the library
item. But, either
> way,
> that didn;t do the trick for me. I did find a bit of
code in one of the
> pages
> that seems to be required.
>
> It seems I also need to insert this just before the
close of the body tag:
>
> <script type="text/javascript">
> 
> </script>
>
> Now, I thought (probably in error) that items after !--
were comments, but
> it
> seems to be required, too. I tried eliminating taht part
and the menus did
> not
> work. I need all of this last part.
>
> I'm sorry I'm such a dope. I probably did something
funny when I was
> styling
> the menu. (I do hope Adobe can accommodate dopes lime
me, though, and make
> these Spry Menus in Libraries easier to use...)
>
> Thanks for all of your help! Really!
>

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