Temporal hierarchy join - validity (0TCTVINTV)

Hello experts,
today it is a hierachy display problem in a report:
We present a time dependent hierarchy structure with a temporal join. This is to have the postings in the correct periods of the hierarchy. A characteristic of this hierarchy is the validity period. This validity period is default displayed in the report. This cannot be suppressed in the query designer. Is there a way to suppress this?
Can you please help us with a sloution?
Thanks in advance.

Hi,
Were you able to solve this issue? I noticed that once you activate the temporal hierarchy join option in the orgunit the system automatically creates a new characteristics called 0orgunit1 and the validity 0TCTVINTV in this characteristic is 1 in the order of F4 column. The problem is that you cannot put 0orgunit1 into change mode and therefore it is not possible to change this value to 0. But were you somehow able to solve this issue?
Kind regards
Sara

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