Temse files not deleted
Hi all,
After housekeeping of job logs via report RSBTCDEL2, the job logs are deleted in SAP but temse files in unix are not deleted. Temse consistency check does not indicate any problem, what could be the cause?
Hi,
Please check this thread
Missing job log
Regards,
Subodh
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Empty Log files not deleted by Cleaner
Hi,
we have a NoSql database installed on 3 nodes with a replication factor of 3 (see exact topology below).
We run a test which consisted in the following operations repeated in a loop : store a LOB, read it , delete it.
store.putLOB(key, new ByteArrayInputStream(source),Durability.COMMIT_SYNC, 5, TimeUnit.SECONDS);
store.getLOB(key,Consistency.NONE_REQUIRED, 5, TimeUnit.SECONDS);
store.deleteLOB(key, Durability.COMMIT_SYNC, 5, TimeUnit.SECONDS);
During the test the space occupied by the database continues to grow !!
Cleaner threads are running but logs these warnings:
2015-02-03 14:32:58.936 UTC WARNING [rg3-rn2] JE: Replication prevents deletion of 12 files by Cleaner. Start file=0x0 holds CBVLSN 1, end file=0xe holds last VLSN 24,393
2015-02-03 14:32:58.937 UTC WARNING [rg3-rn2] JE: Cleaner has 12 files not deleted because they are protected by replication.
2015-02-03 14:32:58.920 UTC WARNING [rg3-rn1] JE: Replication prevents deletion of 12 files by Cleaner. Start file=0x0 holds CBVLSN 1, end file=0xe holds last VLSN 24,393
2015-02-03 14:32:58.921 UTC WARNING [rg3-rn1] JE: Cleaner has 12 files not deleted because they are protected by replication.
2015-02-03 14:32:58.908 UTC WARNING [rg3-rn3] JE: Replication prevents deletion of 12 files by Cleaner. Start file=0x0 holds CBVLSN 1, end file=0xe holds last VLSN 24,393
2015-02-03 14:32:58.909 UTC WARNING [rg3-rn3] JE: Cleaner has 12 files not deleted because they are protected by replication.
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2015-02-03 14:33:32.137 UTC INFO [rg3-rn2] JE: CleanerRun 13 ends on file 0xc probe=false invokedFromDaemon=true finished=true fileDeleted=false nEntriesRead=1129 nINsObsolete=64 nINsCleaned=2 nINsDead=0 nINsMigrated=2 nBINDeltasObsolete=2 nBINDeltasCleaned=0 nBINDeltasDead=0 nBINDeltasMigrated=0 nLNsObsolete=971 nLNsCleaned=88 nLNsDead=0 nLNsMigrated=88 nLNsMarked=0 nLNQueueHits=73 nLNsLocked=0 logSummary=<CleanerLogSummary endFileNumAtLastAdjustment="0xe" initialAdjustments="5" recentLNSizesAndCounts=""> inSummary=<INSummary totalINCount="68" totalINSize="7570" totalBINDeltaCount="2" totalBINDeltaSize="254" obsoleteINCount="66" obsoleteINSize="7029" obsoleteBINDeltaCount="2" obsoleteBINDeltaSize="254"/> estFileSummary=<summary totalCount="2072" totalSize="13069531" totalINCount="68" totalINSize="7570" totalLNCount="1059" totalLNSize="13024352" maxLNSize="102482" obsoleteINCount="66" obsoleteLNCount="971" obsoleteLNSize="12974449" obsoleteLNSizeCounted="971" getObsoleteSize="13019405" getObsoleteINSize="7347" getObsoleteLNSize="12974449" getMaxObsoleteSize="13019405" getMaxObsoleteLNSize="12974449" getAvgObsoleteLNSizeNotCounted="NaN"/> recalcFileSummary=<summary totalCount="2072" totalSize="13069531" totalINCount="68" totalINSize="7570" totalLNCount="1059" totalLNSize="13024352" maxLNSize="0" obsoleteINCount="66" obsoleteLNCount="971" obsoleteLNSize="12974449" obsoleteLNSizeCounted="971" getObsoleteSize="13019405" getObsoleteINSize="7347" getObsoleteLNSize="12974449" getMaxObsoleteSize="13019405" getMaxObsoleteLNSize="12974449" getAvgObsoleteLNSizeNotCounted="NaN"/> lnSizeCorrection=NaN newLnSizeCorrection=NaN estimatedUtilization=0 correctedUtilization=0 recalcUtilization=0 correctionRejected=false
Log files are not delete even if empty as seen using DBSpace utility:
Space -h /mam2g/data/sn1/u01/rg2-rn1/env/ib/kvstore.jar com.sleepycat.je.util.Db
File Size (KB) % Used
00000000 12743 0
00000001 12785 0
00000002 12725 0
00000003 12719 0
00000004 12703 0
00000005 12751 0
00000006 12795 0
00000007 12725 0
00000008 12752 0
00000009 12720 0
0000000a 12723 0
0000000b 12764 0
0000000c 12715 0
0000000d 12799 0
0000000e 12724 1
0000000f 5717 0
TOTALS 196867 0
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kv-> show topology
store=MMS-KVstore numPartitions=90 sequence=106
zn: id=zn1 name=MAMHA repFactor=3 type=PRIMARY
sn=[sn1] zn:[id=zn1 name=MAMHA] 192.168.144.11:5000 capacity=3 RUNNING
[rg1-rn1] RUNNING
single-op avg latency=4.414467 ms multi-op avg latency=0.0 ms
[rg2-rn1] RUNNING
single-op avg latency=1.5962526 ms multi-op avg latency=0.0 ms
[rg3-rn1] RUNNING
single-op avg latency=1.3068943 ms multi-op avg latency=0.0 ms
sn=[sn2] zn:[id=zn1 name=MAMHA] 192.168.144.12:6000 capacity=3 RUNNING
[rg1-rn2] RUNNING
single-op avg latency=1.5670061 ms multi-op avg latency=0.0 ms
[rg2-rn2] RUNNING
single-op avg latency=8.637241 ms multi-op avg latency=0.0 ms
[rg3-rn2] RUNNING
single-op avg latency=1.370075 ms multi-op avg latency=0.0 ms
sn=[sn3] zn:[id=zn1 name=MAMHA] 192.168.144.35:7000 capacity=3 RUNNING
[rg1-rn3] RUNNING
single-op avg latency=1.4707285 ms multi-op avg latency=0.0 ms
[rg2-rn3] RUNNING
single-op avg latency=1.5334034 ms multi-op avg latency=0.0 ms
[rg3-rn3] RUNNING
single-op avg latency=9.05199 ms multi-op avg latency=0.0 ms
shard=[rg1] num partitions=30
[rg1-rn1] sn=sn1
[rg1-rn2] sn=sn2
[rg1-rn3] sn=sn3
shard=[rg2] num partitions=30
[rg2-rn1] sn=sn1
[rg2-rn2] sn=sn2
[rg2-rn3] sn=sn3
shard=[rg3] num partitions=30
[rg3-rn1] sn=sn1
[rg3-rn2] sn=sn2
[rg3-rn3] sn=sn3
Why empty files are not delete by cleaner? Why empty log files are protected by replicas if all the replicas seam to be aligned with the master ?
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Pinging components of store MMS-KVstore based upon topology sequence #106
Time: 2015-02-03 13:44:57 UTC
MMS-KVstore comprises 90 partitions and 3 Storage Nodes
Storage Node [sn1] on 192.168.144.11:5000 Zone: [name=MAMHA id=zn1 type=PRIMARY] Status: RUNNING Ver: 12cR1.3.2.5 2014-12-05 01:47:33 UTC Build id: 7ab4544136f5
Rep Node [rg1-rn1] Status: RUNNING,MASTER at sequence number: 24,413 haPort: 5011
Rep Node [rg2-rn1] Status: RUNNING,REPLICA at sequence number: 13,277 haPort: 5012
Rep Node [rg3-rn1] Status: RUNNING,REPLICA at sequence number: 12,829 haPort: 5013
Storage Node [sn2] on 192.168.144.12:6000 Zone: [name=MAMHA id=zn1 type=PRIMARY] Status: RUNNING Ver: 12cR1.3.2.5 2014-12-05 01:47:33 UTC Build id: 7ab4544136f5
Rep Node [rg3-rn2] Status: RUNNING,REPLICA at sequence number: 12,829 haPort: 6013
Rep Node [rg2-rn2] Status: RUNNING,MASTER at sequence number: 13,277 haPort: 6012
Rep Node [rg1-rn2] Status: RUNNING,REPLICA at sequence number: 24,413 haPort: 6011
Storage Node [sn3] on 192.168.144.35:7000 Zone: [name=MAMHA id=zn1 type=PRIMARY] Status: RUNNING Ver: 12cR1.3.2.5 2014-12-05 01:47:33 UTC Build id: 7ab4544136f5
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>
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>> Hi,
>>
>> [email protected] wrote:
>> >
>> > Does anyone know how to set the "Delay Purge" for deleted files on an
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>>
>> CU,
>> --
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>> Novell Support Connection Sysop
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>> http://www.cfc-it.de
> -
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