Test dual-layer project on TV?

Is there anyway to test a dual-layer DVDSP project on TV? My computer's not able to do a video output to my TV. Is it possible for me to burn my project onto DVD+-DL media? Are there DVD players out there capable of reading DVD+-DL discs? Any suggestions which would be better (DVD+DL vs. DVD-DL)?

...any way to test a dual-layer DVDSP project on TV?
Also - to save on DVD-DL discs - you can test your project in "two halves". Make two copies of your master project. Open CopyA, delete half the video/audio assets, any jump references to the bits you're leaving out, format & burn. Open CopyB, delete the other half of the video assets ... you get the idea!
Seriously, it is often useful to test part of a project (even for DVD5s) on a TV, deleting some of the tracks for particular test versions. This saves a lot of time.

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Recording Device reported the error #6: Power on, reset, or bus device reset occurred ox29, 0x00.
and it happens again and again. I've tried changing the dual-layer break point, which appears to be a legal one according to everything I've read in the documentation.
What else should I look at?
Details: DVD Studio Pro 4.0.3 on Power Mac G5 (Dual 2.0GHz, 2GB RAM) running OS X 10.4.7 connected to a LaCie d2 Firewire DVD Burner (Software Version: 0x10483, Spec ID: 0x609E, Firmware Revision: 0x102, Product Revision Level: LT25).
My first attempt to find an answer was to contact LaCie Technical Support but they simply passed the buck and replied with "We cannot support errors generated by 3rd party programs as they are not our product" so now I hope someone on this Apple forum can provide some answers or pointers to help me.

I'm also someone suffering from a LaCie d2 burner that doesn't correctly burn (on any size disc) when burning Video_TS files to DVD.
LaCie insists that there is nothing wrong with the machine when they test it, but I've tried on G5 desktop and G4 Powerbook, using DVDSP 4.0.3 and Toast 7, and whilst it burns, it will not verify, or (more importantly) will not play back the videos without major stuttering. I have done the firmware upgrade, and have the latest LaCie software from the website.
Is there anyone out there who can verify that they have a LaCie d2 which burns Video_TS DVDs using DVDSP 4 AND the latest version of the OS, viz. 10.4.7.... please?
After four days of email going back and forth with
laCie technical support, they were dimissive becuase
I wanted to use DVD Studio Pro and they don't support
third party software. Well, excuse me, DVD Studio Pro
is the definitive DVD authoring package on the Mac.
They insisted on passing the buck. So I tossed the
LaCie drive aside and purchased a Plextor PX-750UF
drive. So far I've burned 10 DVD+R DL disks (masters
for two replicated DVD-9 projects) with it using DVD
Studio Pro and I'm very happy. The LaCie has the
advantage of a pretty aluminum case. The Plextor has
the advantage that it works.

How do you set up the tracks, Dual Layer project

I have a dual layer disc and project.
The breakpoint will be in the middle of one of the programms. But i don't want that.
Now i want to had a 'hidden' track on layer 0 (so it becomes larger than layer 1)
But how does dvdsp4 calculate whitch tracks goes on what layer?
I've tried to put the hidden track in the outline between track 1 and track 2. But watching dvdsp4 muxing he doesn't put the hidding track between track 1 and 2, but totally at the end.
p.s. the hidden means it doens't have a button on the menu, so it isn't acceseble for people. it's just there to make layer 0 larger than layer 1.

Since you are using DVD SP 4 go to the VTS view in the outline tab. (Press F3 Key, click on outline view, and you will icon at top right in that section [still of left side of the screen] where you can toggle the screen from the list you see to somehting that will list VTS) A pciture of what I am describing is on Pg 589 of the PDF manual.
Drag the "Hidden" so that it is between the VTS for track 1 andd tracks2 (and make sure that there are markers on it (a few at least) so that (hopefully) there should be a layer break in there.

Problems with break point in Dual Layer project

Hi,
I'm currently having a problem setting a break point in a Dual Layer DVD project in DVD Studio Pro 4. I have a project that has 5.9 GB of data (5 shows with between 7-8 chapters in each). The problem I'm having is that in the 5th chapter of the 4th show, there is a freeze frame hickup when I burn the disk. I've tried moving around the chapter mark, deleting them and re-adding them, re-exporting the media (it is in MPEG-2) in all combinations of those and am still having the freeze problem at that chapter mark. I've gone back to the original media and there are no problems there.
What I think the problem is is that the disk is automatically setting the break point for the dual layer disk at that chapter mark. However, when I go into the project and try to set the break point manually from the dropdown, I can't seem to select anything. The default is the begining of the 5th track, and I can only change it to automatic and back again. Anything else I select just goes back to that 5th track, but I still think it's actually doing automatic instead. I'm using a Verbatim DVD+R DL if that helps anything as well.
To all, do you agree that the problem is most likely due to the break point? And if so, how do I change the break point to the beginning of either the 3rd or 4th of the shows instead of having it seem to be stuck on automatic?
Thanks in advance,
Chris

Alright, to answer my own question. Here's what I think the problem was.
There are actually two Disk/Volume menus: one in the Disk settings when you're actually working in the project and another when you go to build and format. I kept trying to set the break point in the first one--in the disk settings in the project--and it wouldn't let me because it can only be set when building and formatting.
It's kind of an annoying settup that there are two identical menus that don't fully communicate with each other, but in the end the solution has been solved.
Chris

DVDSP4 quits unexpectedly when building a dual layer project to .img file

I'm about to make several copies of a dual layer DVDSP project. Building and burning within DVDSP works fine. But when choosing to make an .img, DVDSP4 crasches. Any ideas?
I'm trying to make an .img, mount it and in Toast make copies from the mounted VIDEO_TS folder.
Problem solved. Deleted the build folder, re-builded the project and then I went into Format/Build and re-builded the project once again, now with .img as output target.

Did make it work.

Huge DVD-9 project needs two Dual Layer discs - How to build a from single project?

Hello Encore Pros,
I have a DVD project with about 5 hours of video media and it won’t fit on a single DVD-9. It has to be built onto TWO Dual Layer DVDs. I’ve created the project as ONE BIG PROJECT in Encore CS6 (Mac Pro 10.7.5) with lots of menus, buttons, timelines, and media. Here’s the $20,000 question: how will Encore know to build the project onto two DVD-9 discs? Can I program it to do this and if so, how? Or do I need to break the project into TWO SEPARATE PROJECTS (both dual layer) and burn individually? If so, can I simply duplicate the full project and delete all movies/menus/timelines not needed for each new half? And if that’s the case, I know there'll be some revising elements like setting a new 1st play on disc 2 and some End Action links, etc., but that I can deal with. I suppose I’d name the two new dual layer projects xxx_pt1 and xxx_pt2. On the plus side, the Check Project comes up with no errors, so that’s good so far. Oh, "the horror....... the horror” to quote “Apocalypse Now”
-- Thanks in advance for help and suggestions.

Bill Hunt is still MIA. See this link for his instructions on doing the sort of process I was describing.
Re: Multiple (different) DVD outputs from a single Encore project
In a similar thread, Hunt refers to a more detailed piece he did on "multi-disc" authoring. But he didn't find the link, and neither have I!
Edit: Not it, but may add something:
Re: Multiple-Disc Project

Burning a 2h30min project without a dual layer superdrive

I have a dual layer Lacie external dual layer DVD writer, I recently purchased iLife because I was told that you can burn dual layer projects with iDVD 5.
Obviously, as I have found out, you can only do this with a dual layer internal superdrive.
I have tried the patch to make iDVD burn larger projects(from the French site Hardmac) and it didn't work for me, also tried to save as disc image but to no avail.
Is there anyway to get my project onto a dual layer DVD without shortening it, would be good if iDVD gave you the option to split the project over 2 discs.

Hello, Robert!
Have a look at this. A rep from LaCie posted to it: http://discussions.info.apple.com/webx?128@@.68b9ba73
Be sure to read all the posts for some info that should help you.
Good Luck!

Do I need special hardware to format a dual-layer DVDSP project?

This is the first time that I am doing a dual-layer project and I don't know if the superdrive in my old
G5 can burn a dual-layer disc or if I need to go buy a separate drive to do that.
Anyone out there have a quick answer?
Thanks!

FWIW you may want to pick up an external DL drive, they are not too pricey now and saves wear and tear on your internal drive and if you need to burn a DL for proofing, not bad to have around.
Some start as low as $79 (well at least at OWC a pretty good shop)
OWC FW DL
I would probably go with the $99 or $119 model myself. (and I cringe when I think what I paid for my DL when I got it a year and a half or so ago )

Dual Layer Break Point problem

Hi,
I just found out after I updated DSP 4 to version 4.0.3 my Layer 1 on every project since updating gets corrupted!
I thought it was the Dual Layer discs I used that caused the problem, but after I re-installed DVD Studio to the original version 4.0.0 the same project worked perfect.
Anyone else have issues with Dual Layer Break Point after updating to 4.0.3?
I have tried different chapters as layerbreak points on my project, and even a test project, with the same result. The finished discs is barely playable on some DVD players, showing wierd interference and noise, and DVD Player on mac crashes when reaching the dual layer break point, and the plant i send the master have a software to check DVDs and they said that it couldnt find/was corrupt Layer 1 on one of my discs. Hope someone can fix this, DSP is the best software otherwise!
Best regards,
Mats.

DVD+R or DVD-R?
http://documentation.apple.com/en/dvdstudiopro/usermanual/index.html#chapter=1%2 6section=9%26tasks=true
DVD+R Double-Layer
You can use DVD+R double-layer media, often referred to as DVD+R DL, for burning your dual-layer projects. With DVD+R double-layer media, DVD Studio Pro places the layer break point and sets the switch point to be nonseamless as specified in your project.
DVD+R double-layer discs require you to use the Opposite Track Path (OTP) direction setting when burning the disc. This means that the first layer must be larger than the second layer. See Setting the Dual-Layer Direction for more information.
While DVD+R double-layer discs allow you to burn your dual-layer projects, they tend to have more compatibility issues than the other types of DVD media.
DVD-R Dual-Layer
If your system contains a DVD drive that can write to the new DVD-R dual-layer media, you can burn your DVD project to it with DVD Studio Pro. However, there are several issues:
Because currently DVD Studio Pro has no way to identify DVD-R dual-layer media as having two layers, burning a dual-layer project to it results in the appearance of an alert message telling you that the DVD media may have insufficient room to hold the project. This message is based on the assumption that the disc is single layer. Both layers of the disc will be written to as needed, however, when you click Continue.
If you are burning a dual-layer project, the break point you set will not affect where the layer break actually occurs. Instead, the first layer is written to until filled, at which point the drive switches to writing to the second layer.
The switch between layers is a seamless layer change not supported by some DVD players, which may stop playing the disc when the switch point is reached.
Important: Do not use DVD-R dual-layer media unless these issues do not impact your project.

Dual layer DVD playback problems

Hi Everyone -
I am struggling to make a dual layer DVD that plays back properly. It is for a 76 minute film plus several bonus items.
Total disc space used is 6.4 gig
The film was compressed to a bitrate of 7.1 with a max of 8.3
Audio compressed to 492 kbps (or whatever the 400ish setting is)
Project compiled fine (although I did get a "video bitrate too high" error the first time, then lowered the bitrate.)
Set to
red laser
dual layer
OTP
layer switch set for chapter 12
I've done a few test dual layer discs in the past successfully. What I have done differently with this one is add a lot of bonus material, so there are some 20 or so small video files and a commentary track and two additional audio tracks.
I do not get any error messages while compiling or burning.
The second attempt played back on my mac, at least the main film did. It struggled playing a couple of bonus features and would play others at all.
It loaded on my Mintek portable player, but wouldn't play any video.
It did not load at all on my Cyber Home DVD player or my Panasonic Blu Ray player.
I am wondering if all of these additional small files (none over 2:30 minutes) have caused some clutter that causes the machines to struggle.
I am also wondering if this will be solved by replication, which I am going to do.
I will keep trying though.
If anyone has any advice, please let me know.
Thank you,
Joe Grisaffi
Houston TX

You may want to lower your bitrates and audio rates. They seem high, and I am not sure how much the extra material is that you have (in running time), it looks like about 40 to 50 minutes, so total time of about 2 hours or so? The rate may just be too high for the player to handle. Depending on the material (fast action vs seaking engagement for instance) you should be able to get this on a DVD 5.
Make sure you also use DVD+R DL discs, they are the most compatible. I burn a ton of them and do not have issues playing them back. Use them all the time for proofing and testing prior to going to replication.
As to it not starting properly, some players can get a little finicky. A good practice is to start the DVD with 3 -5 seconds of black, usually in VTS 1 (when you look at the video layout). Also, do you have each clip on seperate tracks or one long track.
As to DLTs, replicators are now accepting USB files also with a "Tape Image" layout on them

Dual Layer and Chapter Points

Hi everyone.
I have just finished a wedding dvd and I'm having several problems burning it into a DVD+R DL (I am using Verbatim Printable now). The only way I can accomplish that is to generate a ISO file from encore and use ImgBurn to burn the dvd.
The problem is that after burning the DVD in ImgBurn, the chapter points I defined in encore's timeline are wrong. Some of them seem to be outdated for a few seconds and others are refering other chapter points, however in the preview of encore everything is fine.
It seems that it was created a chapter for the layer break i guess. Because when i navigate with the ">>" button, the 3rd chapter is the ending of the 2nd... and is not mapped that way in encore preview.
Does anyone can help me out?

As we all know Toast resets the Dual Layer break
point to the exact point... no good if you want to
manually set it in DVDSP.
My question is if I create a disk image with the
point set in DVDSP and burn through disk utility will
the layer break point be reset or will it maintain
the DVDSP setting. As I can control the burn speed I
prefer this to direct burning from DVDSP
Thanks!!
Unfortunately, the break point may still change even if you burn an image file with Disk Utility. The issue isn't that Toast or Disk Utility are resetting the break point on purpose; it's that the disk image that DVDSP creates doesn't contain any layer break information. From page 584 of the DVDSP 4.1 manual: ".img: Use this option to create a disk image. With a dual-layer project, a single “.img” file contains the entire project, without any break point information."

Will iDVD 6 burn a dual layer with 3rd party burners

G'day from Oz.
I've posted similar to this under the iDVD 5 forum, as this forum wasn't started, but no answer yet. Hopefully people browsing here have updated to iLife 6.
Quote from .... http://www.apple.com/ilife/idvd/
"Go for the burn.
Once you finish your DVD masterpiece, only one step remains. Burning it. Thanks to stellar compatibility, iDVD 6 makes the big burn a painless process.
With support for a wide variety of DVD media formats — including DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW, and DVD+R DL — iDVD 6 teams up with a compatible SuperDrive or third-party DVD burner to offer you more media options than ever. You heard right: iDVD lets you burn using compatible third-party DVD burners.
iDVD even lets you archive projects as disc images. Saved this way, your projects are extremely portable and take up less space, and are read-only. What’s more, they’re already encoded, so you can quickly burn them to DVD whenever you have a free moment or a burner handy".
end Quote.
** Note the 'DVD+R DL'. **
Does this mean that burning a dual layer project with dual layer 3rd party burners will be supported?
I've updated to 10.4.4, but my Sony dual layer burner still shows as 'Burn Support: Yes (Unsupported)', in 'About this Mac'. The 'unsupported' means 'no dual layer burning' as far as I know. Also, I believe dual burning is only supported from within the OS itself? True or not?
Let's see who's first to try the new iDVD 6 out with a 3rd party burner & dual layer disk. If it works, it means iDVD 6 really does support third party burners.
Please post results.
Regards
Santa
sp 1.8 GHz G5 Mac OS X (10.4.4)
sp 1.8 GHz G5 Mac OS X (10.4)

G'day.
Further to my post a week ago re this subject, from the iDVD 6 help pages.
Quote
Newer SuperDrive optical drives in Macintosh computers can burn discs in DVD+R DL (Double Layer) format. Double-layer discs store almost twice as much content as single-layer discs, making them a great choice for large projects.
To see if your computer's SuperDrive can burn DVD+R DL discs, choose Project > Project Info. If you see 8.0 GB (Double Layer) in the DVD Type pop-up menu, you can use these discs for your project.
To burn a project to a DVD+R DL disc:
Choose Project > Project Info and choose 8.0 GB (Double Layer) from the DVD Type pop-up menu.
Select the encoder setting you want to use. If you have more than 120 minutes of content, select Best Quality.
Click OK.
Click the Burn button (shown above).
Insert the disc when you see the prompt.
If your project is small enough to fit on a single-layer disc and you insert a double-layer disc, you see a dialog giving you the option to change the media type. You can cancel the burn and start again, or insert a new disc and continue.
You should always burn double-layer discs directly from iDVD and not from a disc image. Double-layer discs burned from a disc image may cause playback issues in some DVD players, such as freezing during playback.
End quote
The last sentence is interesting, as the commonly suggested method of burning Dual layer discs is by first creating a disc image, then burning with Toast or Disk Utility.
Also, my Sony shows up as supporting 8 Gig in iDVD 6, but still shows as 'unsupported' in System Profiler.
Regards
Santa
sp 1.8 GHz G5 Mac OS X (10.4.4) 3 x 300Gb Seagates, Epson 3490 scanner, Epson 830 printer

DVD SP Dual Layer burning and DVD@ccess difficulties

I'm making my first dual layer project and I can't format from DVD SP 3 b/c I get this error message (see below). I burned the project in toast 6 and the project works fine in Macs except for the URL DVD a@cess link doesn't connect. (It works in my computer) The DVD 2nd layer doesn't work in some PC's. I"m using Verbatim + R DL Media. Can anyone give me some suggestions?
Can anyone explain this error message to me:
Formatting was not successful. Layer 1 cannot exceed Layer 0 for a OTP configured disc. Please choose a suitable marker location that will support this condition.

Hey James
this particular error means that layer 1 is larger (as in size) to layer 0.
since we dont have enough details of your project, i cannot correctly tell you what to do.
i will ask you however, where did you set your layer break? tell us how much larger layer 1 is to layer 0. what will you be burning your image to, DLT, disc, hard drive? did you check the format properties and see where a suitable layer break can be? did you set layer break to automatic?
any help could give you a fast answer
Mikey M.

Burn dual layer to 2 dvd5 discs

according to the manual that when we put in the dvd5 disc to burn dual layer project dsp4 will automatically ask us to put in the 2nd dvd5 after the first layer as if we are burning into dtl tape but I have no luck laterly.
please help
thankx
JP

I encountered the following article when recently researching the same question however I have not tried it.
How to format a Dual Layer project to two DVD-Rs
http://www.rootdvd.com/public/98.cfm

Making my first dual layer disk...have a question

I went to build option and switched the size to 8.5 gigs. I will leave the side set to one. When I get to layer break its set to automatic. When i switch it to manual I do not get an option to specify where to put the layer break. My project has 13 timelines in it and i wanted to put it between the timeline switching. Any advice would be appreciated. Thank you.

Be sure you "run as administrator" for dual layer projects.
Did you start the buid? I think that is when you get the break dialog.
Some may not apply, but see the posts by Jon Geddes and Neil Wilkes in this thread for background:
http://forums.adobe.com/message/4003221#4003221

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