TEST IN PROGRESS! THE ZEN VS IPOD SO

My wife just brought an 4th gen 20gb Ipod ( I have the zen touch) and we will preform a taste test if you will on the both of them. We will download 4 genes of songs( r/b , house, rock, celtic) at the same bit rate(same songs) and will play them at the mid -high volume rang at different eq setting for each person blindly and we'll find out just which is better in sound tonight , or if there is really no difference to be heard. I'll Post the results before 0:30pm tonight. So keep watch.

Ok people we used 4 songs...()Enya's Carribean Blue(celtic vocal settings on "Acoustic" for the zen and "Acoustic" for the Ipod, both set to 28kdps,44khz volumes set 8 clicks for the highest level. Results in clarity = Zen touch clearly better ..my wife and I both knew which was better within 0 seconds of start up time on complete test cycle. The Ipod has good sound BUT it sounds like it trying to play under a small layer of water that drowns out the sound a LITTLE. I guess this is thanks to the 97 s/n ratio which some people say you can't hear with your human ear. I guess we have super ears then, because we did.
(2). 2nd test song ...r/b Mariah Carey "Close My Eyes"(using "pop" settings on the zen touch and "R/B"/and 2nd time with "pop" settings trying to be fair)to test the music-to-vocal sound ratio ( seeing if bass or instruments would drown out the vocal beauty ). Again the Clarity of the Zen touch won over again, clearly. It's bass was not as strong as the Ipod's but was clearer. The Ipod bass sounded like it was adding to the drowning sound that I mention above.
(3). 3rd test was Dieselboy jungle mix w/dj jerome,dj dara, and grooverider. We wanted to test which could handle HARDER bass without distortion. The Ipod was the winner on that test. It seemed the harder the bass demands were for the song, on the eq setting for "disco" for the zen ...the worse it got, basically too much( maybe placed on another setting it would have preformed better but I had to place it on the heaviest bass setting as I did with the Ipod to keep it fair). Where the Ipod was set on "Bass Boost" and still left some clarity in place.
(4). And Finally Rap. We used David Banner's "See About Ya". Both unit keep there orginall setting, even though we could have changed the Ipod's setting thanks to their many Eq setting. And both came back kinda equal except for the cleaner bass that the Ipod projected under high bass demanding setting and songs.
ZENT=2
Ipod=2
Bottom Line
***If you don't have both you wouldn't be disappointed in either one. Both by themselves are good sounding machines. It's only when you put them against each other will you ever notice a difference and that difference equals to clarity sound for Vocals for zen and Bass distortion handling for the Ipod(or basically higher volume handling). Hope this helps clear up any questions on the two units.

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Never mind, I think. I think I figured it out. There was 1 song (out of > 900!) that somehow had been purchased with the other ID - I have no idea how. Once I deleted that song, it stopped asking.
There may be something with the newest iTunes version too. I didn't think in older versions that the "On this iPod" list of songs was greyed out. But at least it syncs ok.

The ZEN Touch Fix... Buy an IPOD.

Let?s compare ZEN Touch and Apple IPOD.
? Does IPod have plenty of accessories from third party suppliers like Bose ? YES
? Does Zen Touch have plenty of accessories ?. NO.
? Does the all the Zen Touch features like the ability to use it as an external file share work? NO.
? Does Creative Lie, Lie, Lie and ignore their faithful customers? YES
? Do the Zen Touch owners have a clue as to when their firmware upgrade announced last October will be out? NO
This looks good for Apple and IPod.
Not to good for Creative. This is what happens when you are successful. You screw faithful customers.
Guess what. I am no longer a faithful customer and I have been one since their first 8 bit sound blaster card.
Last but not least. Don?t forget DO NOT TO BUY CREATIVE. I will be sure to share this feeling to anyone who will listen. If I see someone buying a Creative product I will let them know their on their own if there is trouble. It?s better to buy a non creative product?..
Ticked off Zen Touch owner.

JK23 wrote:
Be patient. You shouldn't hold Creative to statements released by CNET. Even if Creative itself announced anticipating the release of new firmware by a certain date, it is a goal, not a firm promise. One should always buy a product for its current capabilities, not what it might do in the future.
With all due respect, a lot of people say the same thing as you said (I do when talking about motherboard and CPU tech with people who want to know what to buy), but they aren't seeing the "big picture." Promises of features to come should ALWAYS be treated with skepticism, especially if you hear rumor or speculation about missed release dates for things such as firmware updates. However, the truth of the matter is that a pattern of events such as announcing an anticipated date of release, failing to make it happen on said date, and no update put forth by any form of pr, are potential indicators of problems within the company. Just how extensi've those problems are cannot be determined until more concrete proof is established, but the fact that such indicators are noticeable should serve as a warning sign to buyers (new and returning alike).
Creative must be very careful in this area as the DAP/MP3 player market has the potential to reach a far, far wider and varied range of customers, many of whom have never bought a Creative product of any kind in the past. Too many problems, and it could become a spotlight casting a negati've light on Creative's entire collection of products, whether or not they are experiencing the same sort of product release and support problems as the Zen / MuVo lines have.

Can MP3s from the zen micro be played using an FM tuner like the ipod

where can we get an accessory like the ipod's wherein we can play music from the zen micro on a car stereo/home stereo using an FM tuner wherein the micro itself will work like a remote control? thanks a lot.

Anywhere. Belkin makes the Tunecast FM tuner -- just make sure to get the TunecastII with the LCD selector.

An extensive look at the Zen Vision:M for those considring buying one (plus my firmware wishli

 Well first, I want to say that this is the 0th mp3 player that I have owned. This is definitely the best and most powerful player I have ever owned. With that said, its not perfect either, hence the purpose of this review. As I did on this board with the Zen Micro, I write this review in hopes that Creative will listen. Hopefully, creative will read this and take it to heart.
SOUND QUALITY:
 This is what any music device should be about right? Nothing else matters if the sound quality stinks. I used to own Creative?s Zen Micro. The sound on it was great but the bass was lacking. The best sounding mp3 player I?ve ever owned was Iri'ver?s old H20. With its customizable SRS settings, it still stands out against all others I have encountered. If that Iri'ver was the best, I am happy to say that this little device is a very close second. Creative included a bass boost function, and paired with the customizable EQ settings, the sound is amazing. It knocks the micro out of the ballpark.
MENU NAVIGATION:
 The menu on this thing is very familiar to that of other Zen players, including the micro. That?s not a bad thing since the navigation system is the most popular among most mp3 players of this class. I used to own Phillip?s HDD 6330, and that player and the 5th generation iPod have something that the Vision:m lacks. I have all of my music specifically organized by genre. I would like to go into the genre folder, and select a song by title, not by artist, then title. On the 5G iPod, and the HDD6330, the first menu option when going into the genre folder in ?All Titles?. So, all you had to do was select genre / all titles and you had every song in your library from that genre. This player lacks that ability.
 I will give praise to Creative for its side alphabetical bar. This has made scrolling my library very much easier. This is a very innovati've feature to use. I also give them props for making the main menu customizable. If Creative will add that one thing, its menu system would be unmatched and close to perfection!!!
FEATURES:
 Creative has built a host of features in this thing as they do with a lot of their players. The FM radio is good and the voice recorder is good. Now lets get to the good stuff. The Vision:m actually lets you choose your own background. Not only that, but for the picture you do decide to use, its lets you edit its brightness and color tone. This feature definitely comes in handy. I selected a nice picture of me and my son at the town fair, and it was way to bright. The letters on the screen were hard to read no matter what theme I used. Upon selecting a picture to use as background, the player gives you the option to raise or lower its brightness and color tone. I lowered the brightness and changed the tone and now, the background looks great. Creative should have gone that extra mile and gave the player the ability randomly select a new background every day.
 Also, I am liking the content password feature that gives you the ability to hide video and picture folders. Basically, if I wanted to, I can create a folder on my Vision:m, put some porn in it (come on, that?s what this is really about), and on the player, set it the folder to ?protected?. On the players System settings, set the option to hide all protected folders to ?hide? and you are all set. To unhide the folders, go back into System Settings and select it. Upon selecting it, you will be prompted for the password. I also like the fact the Creative include a calendar and organizer into the player. It?s nice however unnecessary it may be.
USER INTERFACE:
 I have got to give creative its pro
ps.
Those who criticize Creative for copying iPod really have no idea what Creative has done! Its ergonomic design is the best I have seen since the iPod!!! It is designed for one handed thumb use. One of the problems with the micro and other players like it is the fact that its touch pad was too sensiti've and by simply holding the player, it was a good chance you would accidentally access a function, when the hold switch wasn?t on. The only thing that?s touch sensiti've here is the scroll pad. Creative brilliantly included two side buttons along the thumb pad, which you can easily press with your thumb. This is not copy-catting. This is innovation! Add to that, the other outside buttons that surround the thumb pad are NOT touch sensiti've. They are clickable buttons. The chances of accidental button pressing are greatly minimized. My only problem with the setup is that Creative foolishly assigned the scroll pad buttons to song skip access. That?s fine and dandy when you are in the ?Now playing screen?, but when navigating the menu, it'ss a slight discomfort. The side buttons would be extremely useful when navigating the menu system. Especially with one handed use.
VIDEO and PICTURES
 Well, the one feature that sets this player apart is its ability to play video right? Well, when I first got my player and through my content on it, I threw some videos (less porn) that were on my computer on the player. They played flawlessly with no video conversion necessary. They included a downloaded episode of ?BattleStar Galactica?, ?Boston Legal?, and ?Prison Break?. They all played beautifully. I don?t know if the player?s CPU can handle it, but I would love the ability to fast forward or scan through long video files a lot faster. Selecting ?Seek To? from the menu helps a lot, but its not fast enough. Also, I would like for Creative to add quicktime or .mov support if its possible (legally). My digital camera and cell phone records video clips in .mov format. I also have lots of trailers on my computer in quicktime format. It would be nice if I can simply drop some of the clips on the player without converting them first.
 The Pictures show great on this player. You can't scroll through them as quickly and as crisp as with the iPod but there is a reason for that. The ipod scales down and convert photos so they can be shown on the screen. The Creative doesn?t do that. Simply drop the picture on the device and it will be displayed. The benefit to this method is that the player allows you to zoom in on the photos which is a very nice feature and an adequate trade
In. It makes transferring pictures faster also. Add to that, you can switch the folder view and thumbnail picture view to vertical scroll. Speaking of which, where is the USB OTG? This would be a big plus if you had it.
 The AV out works great also. I don?t have a/v cables that connect to the player on hand but I did have red and black audio cables that would connect. I stuck the jack in about half way and connected the red on to the video in port on the TV and it worked. I still highly recommend purchasing the a/V cables for it.
PLAYER DESIGN:
 What can I say. So, it looks like the iPod. But should we really fault Creative for that? iRi'ver?s H300 was the first mp3 player to have support for photo?s. When the iPod photo debuted, you could very well have accused Apple of ?copying? iRi'ver. The only way this player copies the iPod is the fact the screen is the same size and dimension. Oh, and the controls are on the bottom. Kind of like the same way Apple ?copied? iRi'ver. I emphasize the word copy because both of theses players were in development at the same time. Creative released their player a short time after Apple. There is no way Creative could have thrown a player this functional and feature heavy together so quickly. The fact that the players look similar is mere coincidence. Other than that, like the 5G ipod, it'ss a beauty. The fact that the buttons glow gives it an extra coolness. I give creative props for its new interface which rocks and what I like to call?The Thumb Click? Oh, and Creative, the next time you release a player, you can keep the so called ?sync adapter?. I don?t like it one bit. Find a way to build the outlets into the player without compromising is size!!! Its just one more thing I have to keep up with.
SOFTWARE / COMPUTER INTERFACE:
The last time I dealt with Creative?s software is when I had the Micro. It was clunky but functional. I like what they have done this time around. Still the familiar software but more organized. My only problem is when syncing. I edited an id3 tag on my computer and synced the library again. The software failed to sync the song, listing it as an error. The only way to correct this was to delete the song from the player and re-sync it.
ZEN CAST ORGANIZER NOTE:
 Creative, I say this with the best intentions not to be taken the wrong way. You guys need to scrap the current beta software and go back to the drawing board. Do you guys even realize the potential you have with ZCO? First off, when using the sync organizer, it works, but it can't handle video. It is ridiculously slow when handling video. The syncing software in explorer works a lot better. And then ZCO doesn?t show all of the podcasts available on ZenCast. It brings up internet explorer. What you guys need to do, is go back to the drawing board and design software that expertly organizes my entire media library with extreme simplicity. Have a section for music, pictures, video, and zen/pod casts. The Music section can have the option of connecting to an online music store, the video section can have the option of connecting to an online video store, and the ZenCast, to to the Zencast website, where you can easily subscribe to any zencast without bringing up the browser.
 Lets say you guys strike a deal with?.say?..NBC. and NBC makes its episodes of ?Book of Daniel? available on the Zen video store. I should be able to purchase a season pass, and every time I sync my player, it will automatically download and/or sync the latest episode. The possibilities are endless!!!
BUGS:
I have only noticed two bugs with this player. It seems that the Vision:m has an obsessi've compulsi've need to display album art for every song played. Even songs with no album art associated with them. Since my library is organized by genre and not by album, the player simply picks another album art from the folder ad displays that art for a song with no album art. Creative please fix this because its annoying. Also, one almost unnoticeable bug. The ?song time? count at the bottom of the progress indicator in the ?Now Playing? screen seems to have a hard time counting seconds in some songs. Its too slow and eventually catches up. Then counts regularly, and speeds p again. At first I thought the problem was with VBR mp3?s but it does it with regular 28 kbit rates.
Overall Creative has built a very good player and is currently the best out there. I was a fan of the micro and am now A HUGE fan of this one. This player has yet to crash since I have had it, considering that the micro crashed 3 times by this point of my having one. In fact, this looks to be the most stable player I?ve owned as well. I want to personally thank the Creative development for making a player so superior to anything else out there and at such a competiti've price. I will stomp for your company and brand every chance I get. But You have to meet me half way. Outside the Geek world, your brand is barely recognized. You need to set up a huge base of operations in the US and heavily promote your brand. Not just in magazines and one or two city billboards, but on constant TV commercials, get some music artists on TV promoting your player. Come on guys, really show Apple that you are serious about taking them on. I realize that this costs money to do, but you have to spend money to make money right?
Below is my Firmware Wish List I prioritized them starting with the most important thing. Please try to get to some of these issues.
- fix album art bug
- make a main menu option for Zen cast. This shouldn?t be in the video folder.
- Add the ability to browse by title in the Genre folder.
- Add support for .mov format to video please.
- USB On the Go would be a nice addition as well
- Add the ability to randomly select a new background from a pre selected group of photos every time the player is turned on or each day.
- SRS if possible. It sounds wonderful on other players.
- Make side scroll pad buttons to be used for navigating menu system.
- A small game or two wouldn?t hurt, but add more coolness to it.
Thank you for listening

wow, very nice review Makes me want to get a vision for myself.
WebKnight wrote:

Add the ability to randomly select a new background from a pre selected group of photos every time the player is turned on or each day.
I would love that feature. I can't stand useing my computer with a single wall paper anymore (I have 500 anime pics that i rotate between every 2 mins ) If you could make the vision rotate background every x minutes or every time the player is turned on, it would be totally amazeningly sweet!!!! (i might have to go out and buy one then :P)
I just hope that creative has better firmware support with the vision than they have had with the touch.
Once again, great review

What's wrong with the Zen Nano pl

I've been looking around for the MP3 player that will suit my needs.
The key features I need are...
. Above average sound quality.
2. Flash based.
3. Small. Can accompany me anywhere with ease.
4. User replaceable battery. (after few years, built-in battery will die. sending to service center for replacement is a pain in my country)
5. The screen that let me navigate through my music files.
I've been deciding between the iPod nano and Mobiblu DAH-500i(Currently I've not enough money for the iPod nano though.). But for some reason I just want to check creative website. My last creative product was back then...... the first generation Creative Nomad Jukebox 6GB.
And I found this one, the Zen nano & Zen nano plus. This player meets all my requirements. I quickly browse CNET and PCMAG.com for the reviews of this product. Yes, they say good things about it. But the rating is somewhat low compared to other models out there. PCmag give it 3.5/5. And Cnet doesn't even have a full review for it.(only 'preview' available.)
I'm not sure if I can think this way but after reading through the 'features' page, I think this product just simply 'SHOULD BE MORE POPULAR'. It's so perfect. It fills all the holes I have in my mind about iPod nano(no drag and drop) and DAH-500i(battery life). I'm not interest in FM radio though.
So I'm starting to wonder if there's some hidden flaws about it's Forexample, is it only compatible with AAA alkaline battery but not the rechargeable AAA Ni-MH or Ni-CD battery? This thing is build of very cheap plastic? etc...
Question # Please let me know what is the 'bad' point of Zen nano/ Zen nano plus. Because I really can't find it.
Question #2 Is there a hole on the device where I can atach a lanyard?
Thank you.

As said above, the N200 is the exact same (with some software exceptions and maybe the odd change) as the Nano Plus.
The plastic the player is made out of can be quite fragile (I've got a crack in the bottom of my player) - but it's not so fragile as the Ipod Nano seems to be (it's meant to be a magnet to scratches), it's a bit of a cheap plastic, but I'm not sure the extent of how fragile it is, though you can't literally snap it in half.
You will need to reload the firmware every so often, if you're lucky, it might be every few months, some have to do it every few weeks (It could be the luck of the draw, some people might have faulty products, but it is something that needs to be done). This usually is the fix for any random problem with the player (at least it's not always back to Creative for repair)
The Line in is pretty shoddy, don't use that. (They might have fixed it in the later versions of the firmware, not in .2)
The sound quality is well, as good as you can expect I suppose, it's not the worst thing in the world, but testing it against my cousin's Ipod Photo (I know it's not exactly a big comparrison), there's no or very little difference.
The battery is user changable, AAA batteries. There have been some cases with some rechargeables not working - that could just be the luck of the draw, or just a incompatability issue, like anything that uses batteries. However, most rechargeables should work with the player well. (I'm using rechargeables as well)
There is a hole for the laynard around the back of the player - yet I remember the hole on a user's player had broken. In Asia, the player is sold with the laynard, whereas in North America and Europe, it comes with an arm band and a rubber cover with a plastic belt clip.
The backlit buzz as mentioned above is also a problem, though on the Cnet Asia review for the N200, the claimed it wasn't audiable during music playback. Though how much it annoys you can depend on you, it's like some people can sleep with World War 3 outside, some can only sleep in perfect silence.
I'm sure there will be people with horror stories about the player, but there will always be people with horror stories about everything and anything.
Feel free to ask more questions if you want.
Although, saying that, the Samsung players are meant to be pretty good as well if you want to check them out.Message Edited by arcl on 09-26-2005 02:23 AM

Creative, Is it worth it? (i.e. whats your experience with the Zen 16gb) and Firmware questi

After doing a sizable amount of research on the Creative Zen 6gb MP3 player, I was relati'vely comfortable with the product and decided to purchase it.
However, after browsing this forum for a few hours, I see quite a few things that trouble me about Creative in general:
"Real person" my (CENSORED) -horrible customer support
Creative Expects 3rd Quarter Loss, Sells HQ Building?
Message to Daniel_K -lack of product support/customer relations
and a countless number of other posts about hardware and software issues with the Zen
I really like the features built into the MP3 player (FM transmitter, voice recorder, Equalizer) and do not want to sell my soul to Ipod.
That being said, I wanted to see if there was anyone on this forum that actually liked their Zen and did not have issues with it.
I would greatly appreciate your positi've feedback as I hope that I will not have to spend countless more hours searching for and then researching a different MP3 player that fits my needs.
In addition, I was curious about the user interface on the Zen. I know that it uses ID3 tagging and that a folder directory cannot be used to view mp3s on the player (unless this has been added in a firmware update?, however I checked the site and did not see anything about this addition). How impeding is this ID3 tagging reliance if about 00 to 500 of my mp3s have incorrect tagging? as in, will I go crazy trying to retag everything because all I see if "Unknown" for all the data?
Yeah, that's about it for my long winded post...
Thanks,
Joe?

Just return from Mexico and found my Zen 4 GB player missing from a light finger baggage handler. I would not even consider, in a thousand years, of purchasing from the "fruit company" their overprice Ipod without a FM receiver. The Creative Zen rocks. Need I say more.

Full revision list of the Zen Micro's firmware?

/ I've been digging up various firmwares, and I'll be honest and say that because I use an AC Adaptor that 2.2.02 and ..0 are not in my best interests. While I have no tested whether .02.05 retains charge over time I will probably do so tomorrow. I'd like to know the full history of the device so I know where to stand on this. I like to have the 4 hour standby, but not the 'shorter' charge span simply because all Creative did was drop the peak voltage from 4.9V (Li-Po can take up to 4.235V) to 4.2V. Granted the slope of the charging curve gets very flat at that level, but I do feel that it is best to inform geeks so they know what to expect.
Version (Recovery Mode version)
..0 (0.0.65)
2.2.02 (0.0.65)
.0.02 (0.0.63) (Pulled off due to complaints)
.02.05 (0.0.58)
2.00.2 (Cannot be installed)
I know I missed a few, but because the Zen Micro is past its life cycle I doubt there will be any customizations to the device.

what problems?
Spending time on a support forum like this, that covers the full gamut of the customer base, you are going to see probably 80% of the posts from folks having problems ranging from minor pilot error to real hardware failure. The 20% with tips, kudos etc are all in the minority and will not be very visible.
Creative has probably sold over 5 million Micro's since inception. There are definitely going to be problems with that many units in the general population. And some of the problems have been real issues such as the battery drain and the issue of headphone jacks. The latest firmware v . has fixed the battery problem, and on the 3 Micros in our household we are all seeing over hours playback time, excellent battery hold time, good charging characteristics etc etc. The headphone jack issue seems to have become a lot less of a topic the past month or so. Noting that Creative sold probably about .5 million of the earliest Micros, and these were the units that seemed to have headphone jacks go bad, if at all, all the later products may have enough of a redesign that the jacks are OK. Certainly we are fine over here with the new revisions.
The pluses of the Micro are many, and the diminuti've size and excellent UI makes using this player a pleasure. Audio quality is excellent, and other than sheer output power is right up there with the JB3 (IMO the best ever mp3 player - irregardless of brand).
Hope this rambling note can help you with your decision.
jake

One of a kind problem with the zen micro(which i love)......... PLEASE HELP me bring it back to l

[color="#ff6600" size="4" face="Verdana">I have a creative zen micro and when i try to turn it on?i get?the blue glow but it only goes to the screen that says creative with the copyright info?then it'sfreezes?there and i have to take the battery out to turn it off. Also when i try to connect it to my computer it does the exact?same thing. This is basically all i get out of my zen lately, and its been doing this for a few months now. Ive tried the take out battery while holding on thing... but i dont even get the recovery screen or whatever. And the worst part..... i dont have a warranty. A few things that?might?have led to this problem are
[color="#ff6600" size="4" face="Verdana">I have lost the actual zen micro usb charger<
[color="#ff6600" size="4" face="Verdana">People dont understand the touch pad and use it like a gameboy<
[color="#ff6600" size="4" face="Verdana">I cant fit anymore music <
[color="#ff6600" size="4" face="Verdana">When it'sstarted to freeze?id take the battery out and restart it(poor thing)<
[color="#ff6600" size="4" face="Verdana">I got this as a present last christmas, and it stopped working around the summer time, maybe its just old.. but i dont want to give up on it... even if i do get the zen vision M for christmas

An update...
I downloaded Apple's (rather large!) list of software updates today, and I was finally able to recognize my iPod again. I did a restore using the iPod updater from 06-2006, and all seemed to work OK. (I'm afraid to try the new one again!)
Then I tried to re-load my music library from iTunes, and got stuck. It froze up after a while and wouldn't go any further.
When I disconnected my iPod from my computer, I find 2 podcasts and nothing else, though iTunes told me it had transferred 600+ songs. Those 2 podcasts do play fine, and the basic iPod software all seems to be intact.
So -- anyone get through this connection problem and have any ideas to share??
iMac Mac OS X (10.4.7)

HT2305 My iPod is not being read by iTunes. What do I do to be able to sync my iPod if iTunes is not starting the setup wizard for the iPod when it is connected to a Dell PC? I am new the iTunes and iPods.

My iPod is not being read by iTunes. What do I do to be able to sync my iPod if iTunes is not starting the setup wizard for the iPod when it is connected to a Dell PC? I am new the iTunes and iPods.

Hello, BAHannebaum.
The article below should resolve any device not being recognized in iTunes issue that you are experiencing. The most common issues are the Apple Mobile Device Support driver or iTunes is outdated. Start with the first step and test the results after each step processed.
iOS: Device not recognized in iTunes for Windows
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1538
Cheers,
Jason H.

My iPod Touch won't connect to iTunes or my computer, and the "on this iPod" tab is gone out of the blue. I can't put any more music onto my iPod, and I can't erase anything off of it either! What can I do?

My iPod Touch is a 6.1.6
I got it as a gift a couple years ago, so I'm not sure exactly what generation it is. My iPod Touch will not connect to iTunes or my computer, and the "on this iPod" tab is also gone. I can't put anything new onto it and I can't take anything old off of it! This just happened recently as well, as it was working fine up until a couple months or so ago. What can I do?

iOS: Device not recognized in iTunes for Mac OS X
Or
See
iOS: Device not recognized in iTunes for Windows
- I would start with
Removing and Reinstalling iTunes, QuickTime, and other software components for Windows XP
or
Removing and reinstalling iTunes and other software components for Windows Vista, Windows 7, or Windows 8
However, after your remove the Apple software components also remove the iCloud Control Panel via Windows Programs and Features app in the Window Control Panel. Then reinstall all the Apple software components
- Then do the other actions of:
iOS: Device not recognized in iTunes for Windows
paying special attention to item #5
- New cable and different USB port
- Run this and see if the results help with determine the cause
iTunes for Windows: Device Sync Tests
Also see:
iPod not recognised by windows iTunes
Troubleshooting issues with iTunes for Windows updates
- Try on another computer to help determine if computer or iPod problem

What are the movie to iPod video settings?

I wonder, what are the exact video settings corresponding to selecting "Movie to iPod" when exporting?
The settings left to consider for Movie to MPEG-4 when using H.264 320 x 240 are:
Bitrate: ? kbps
Optimized for: CD / Fetch / Stream
Frame rate
Sync every ? frames
And the advanced video settings:
Limit description to: Main, Extended, Baseline
Encoding: Best / Fast

After a bit of testing I think that a video rate of 622 kbps is used when selecting the internal Movie to iPod export option.
This results in 750 kbps when audio is 128 kbps.
Short videos in iTunes Music Store use 622 kbps video rate (Michael Jackson Billie Jean and Bad, Pixar For the Birds).
Longer videos used 570 kbps video rate (Michael Jackson Thriller, ABC - Lost).
However my original question was what settings to use to match the Movie to iPod export option.

Is the Zen Touch Mac Compatib

My Cousin has an iMac and i'm visiting him and I was wondering if I could transfer tunes from his computer to my Zen Touch. Also, is the zen touch like the ipod where it will only support syncing with one computer. Where it makes you delete everything on the device before setting up another partnership.

> we dont take kindly to apples round here...u know if it
> dont got a usb port then it work wrk either...i know it
> sounds stupid but i've seen apple computers without usb
> ports...wat were they thinking
Duh -- probably the same thing the _PC_ makers were thinking back before USB was invented!
I agree -- your childish anti-Mac rant _does_ sound stupid.
Thanks for sharing ;-/

What happened to the Zen Micro Pho

I had asked my parents to buy me the Zen Micro Photo as a gift for Christmas and they thought they had got the right one but they got the older Zen Micro, not the photo one. Not a big deal I thought, I would just go back to the store and exchange it. Well, it seems that the Micro Photo doesn't even exist anywhere. It isn't even available to buy on Creatives store, it isn't even listed as an option. Every store I have called told me that they don't carry that model, and every web site I have gone to is out of stock. I even called Amazon.com and asked them when they thought they would be getting more in and they said they didn't know. I called Bestbuy, CircuitCity, various electronics stores in the New York/New Jersey areas and everyone is sold out or never carried it. Just two weeks ago I saw it for sale on Creatives site and now it isn't there. I plan on calling Creatives customer service in the morning and asking them about it. Does anyone here know what happened, is it going to be available again or is it being replaced?

bag3lbit3s wrote:
Well I doubt that Creative just stopped making them, I remember while looking for a White one in the U.S. I called up Creative asking when they'll be sending more out and they told me late January/Early February they'll be shipping them out to retailer. I really wanted the White one to be honest but they only have grey over in the U.S. and I didn't want to have to order through the U.K. or Singapore for one.
Yeah, I don't think the microphoto has been discontinued. I just think they're having some stock supply/demand issues and they're all sorts of screwed up with their websites for different regions around the world and the availability of items. It would be dumb to get rid of the micro and the microphoto since that would leave nothing to really compete with the ipod nano (and I don't think too many people are buying the neeon, but I could be wrong).
Though I still would like to hear what the moderators know about the future of all of the different creative mp3 players.
Owner of:
40GB Zen Touch
20GB Zen Sleek
2 8GB Zen Microphotos (that's right, two, i liked 'em so much I bought a second one despite the current lack of audible support)
Former owner of:
40GB Zen Xtra
5GB Zen Micro
AUDIBLE SUPPORT FOR THE ZEN MICROPHOTO NOW!!!!!!!!!!!Message Edited by penn on 2-27-2005 03:57 AM

Album Art doesn't display in all cd in the Zen Visio

Album art doesn't display in all cd in the Zen Vison M . I have 649 cd and most of them display correct on ZEN Vision M. But some doesn't , I try to delete de Cd and rip it again and add the album art it didn't work for some reason some of the albums does not dipslay. The album art shows in Zen Explorer but not on the Zen vision M. Do you know why. I also try to get the Cover enlarge 200x200 or larger 500x500 but still odesn't work please any help. I had read all the suggestion in the forum also and follow suggestion but it doesn't work.
Take Care
AussieDog

If you select multiple songs and choose Get Info, the Album Art box will always be blank, even if the individual songs each have the same common Art. This is expected behavior.
Copying the Art directly to the iPod will never work. If your iTunes displays the Art fine, and the nano doesn't, your problem is likely to be a firmware issue with the iPod. I would suggest performing a "restore" and then try again. Otherwise, if issues remain, reinstall iTunes if more than one XP user is affected.

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