Text determination & Output

Hi,
We have configured txt determination in Customer master in general data & Sales area data individually. We have assigned text procedure to the account group.
I have also maintained text types, access seq and procedure for the sales document (Header). In access sequnce we have assigned the text id's which we have created for sales area data and central text so as to get the text determined in sales document header (OR)
In sales order, system determines the text for only one objct which ever is maintained in the top row of access sequence.
So what i presumed is, my access sequence is not able to search other ids, RIGHT ?
Is there any exclusive indicator ??
I am also unable to see the same text in output copy of order.
Regards,
Venksys.

Hi,
For the text to be seen in the output ask your APAP consultant to include functinon module READ_TEXT in the smart form code.
Hope this will help.
Regards,
Sharan

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Step By Step Output n Text Determination

Hi ,
Can anybody kindly tell me step by step process to configure the ouput and text determinations?
Points for sure
Thanks in Advance
Rama Chandra

<a href="http://http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/30/c6853488601e33e10000009b38f83b/frameset.htm">OUTPUT DETERMINATION</a>
Please find the Detailed Note on Text Determination.
1) T-code VOTXN, for the text object Customer>Sales and distribution>click the Text types-->create your 4 digit Text ID
2) Come back to initial screen of this t-code and again select the text object Customer-->Sales and distribution and click change. Select the text procedure and double click on the Text IDs in text procedure. Here you create a new sequence and select the 4 digit Text ID you have created initially.
3) Assign the Text procedure which you have selected in step2 and double click on Text procedure assignment .Here you assign the Text ID to the Customer Accout group.
4) In the customer master, sales area tab>Extras menu>text, Select the text which you have created now and enter text into it. And save.
The text which you have created now ,can be used for multiple purpose(Ex. sales order,delivery,billing,pricing,inforecords,legal). for example in this case, You just want to display this text during sales order processing, then proceed as follows,
5)T-code VOTXN ,for the text object Sales document>Header>click the Text types-->create your 4 digit Text ID.
6) Come back to initial screen of this t-code and again select the text object Sales document-->Header and click change. Select the access sequence and create new access sequence(This access sequence is similar to that of in Pricing).Select this access sequence and double click the access sequence for text ids.Here in the first column this is Serial no. second column is text object(This is the area from which text has to be refer. In our case we have created the customer Text object for sales and distribution area, so i.e.KNVV) and the next column is Text id, this is the id which we have created at customer text object for sales and distribution initialy, at step 1). The next column is partner function, it will identify for which partner this text has defined. Next 2columns are Languages (if you want to define for all language or specified language), next column is for specified language for partner function. if you have any requirement to be fulfilled you can create those requirements in the next columns or else leave blank, save and come back to text proceudure.id.
7) Select the text procedure (for ex.01-Sales header) and double click on the Text IDs in text procedure. Create new entries Fill in the sequence and the text id which we have created for sales document-header(in step 5).There is a small check box in the 3rd column which is used whether the text should be referred or copied(this is used if you want to modify the text during the sales order processing or just display the original text as it is),next column is whether the text should be displayed while creating or it is not obligatory, last column is access s sequce,this is nothing but the sequence which we have created in step 6) and save.
8) in the final step assign the text procedure id to the particular sales order.
As already we have created the customer text in the customer master record, so during the processing the sales order, the text should be displayed once the customer number is keyed in.
Apart from Above please find some more stuff below:
Text Determination Procedure steps
1.spro, SD, basic functions, text control, define text types.
There select the text object (Customer) and select the area (Ex: Sales and distribution) and click on Change. There u define Ur own Text determination procedure .Here u can maintain whether the text is obligatory or not
2. Assign the Text determination Procedure (Assign it to account group in case of Maintaining Text information at the customer).
3. Maintain the Text information (Ex: In customer master, go to sales area data, in the extra click on Texts and maintain the text information there).
For further information on Text determination refer to
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_470/helpdata/en/90/758534c960a134e10000009b38f83b/frameset.htm
Text also uses the same condition technique used by pricing.
A condition type = Text id in text determination
So
Create a text id for sales doc Header/item based on ur requirement
Assign the text id to text procedure.
Now the text id will appear in the Texts tab of the sales order item. Here you can go, select the text id and manually enter the text there and save the document.
You can also update texts automatically in the sales order by creating access sequences and maintaining master data for texts. But I am little unclear about access sequence and master data as it is different from access sequence creation for pricing procedure or outputs.

Determine output filename based on input filename content with RFC lookup

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I have this sitaution which needs your ideas/sugestion.
1) PI system picks up text file from FTP server folders.
2) Within PI system, we need to dynamically determine output filename , logic to determine output filename will be :
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Hello Priyanka,
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Text determination in invoice !

Hi,
I have an invoice which has been created in English language (output type = "EN"). However when I create a print out of this invoice the description of some items are printed in "Serbo-Croation" language. If I decide to print the same invoice in Serbo-Croation language (output type = "SH") all items on the invoice print out are displayed in English language.
Can anybody tell me how is the standard SAP text determination works on Invoices.
Thanks in advance
Kami

It's not specific to the invoices. Normally, when you request an output in certain language, the system first obtains the text elements in that language. For some elements, if they're not available in that language, they will be printed in the default language (English). This is to avoid blank space on the forms, I guess. So it's very important to maintain the translation consistenly.
Having said that, material description is stored in master data, but is also copied to VBRP-ARKTX field. It's possible that the users logged on with 2 different languages, edited the same order and different descriptions were captured. I would check what data is in that field in the invoice in question.
Additionally, have an ABAPer check the form. If a custom form is being used, it might not be working correctly.

Text Determination at Opportunity creation dependent to the Sales Orga

Hello experts,
we try to define a text determination for opportunities dependent to the sales organisation. That means we have a text type calles e.g. "Sales Orga TEXT". In an opportunity at creation time, the user's sales orga will be determined for the opp. Dependent to this sales orga we want to determine different content for the text type "Sales Orga TEXT".
I've created a function module for this issue. I don't know how i can get the sales orga of an opp at creation time. Is there a structure which is available at this time? Or how can I get this info?
Somebody any ideas?
Thanks
Abbas

Use function module CRM_ORDER_READ and get the organization details from the output structures for ORG ET_ORGMAN or more so use the function module CRM_ORGMAN_READ_OW and get the org details.
You need the header guid of the transaction.

Purpose of partner determination procedure,text determination procedure,

hai sap-sd gurus please i would like to know the purpose of
1) parntern determination procedure.
2) out put determination procedure.
3) text determination porcedure.
if i want to do delivery split what r the configuration settings i have to do.
pls provide the all steps.
thanks&regards

Hi Sreenivas,
Partner determination use
In this activity, you define the rules that should be used to perform automatic partner determination.
1. Define the partner functions that differentiate the roles of
     partners in your system.
2. Define the partner determination procedure, and assign the key of the relevant partner object to this Procedure.
3. Assign the partner functions you define to the account groups.
Output Determination Purpose
The Output Determination component offers output functions for sales, shipping, transportation, and billing to help you manage sales transactions with your customers and within your company. You can create sales activity output (for example, customer telephone calls, mailing campaigns) and group output (for example, freight lists). Your company employees can send and receive output. Output is directly linked to the corresponding sales transaction (for example, the system automatically sends an order confirmation via Electronic Data Interchange (EDI) as soon as the employee
Texts Purpose in Sales and Distribution
In a business relationship, it is essential that business partners exchange information throughout the logistics chain. In sales and distribution, this exchange of information is supported by texts in master records and documents. You can maintain these texts for one particular customer or define them so that they can be used more flexibly.
Texts can be used in many areas of sales and distribution:
Sales notes for customers
Sales texts for materials
Explanations in order confirmations
Shipping instructions in deliveries
You can define as many text types as you require (sales texts, shipping texts, internal notes, supplement texts etc.) for master records and documents.
You can take the settings for the texts from Sales and Distribution Customizing under Text control.
Delivery split
Regarding Delivery split you can control through copy control routines in the VTLA transaction.
I hope it will help you,
Regards,
Murali.

What is ment by Text determination wether copy conrols is the are it differ

hi
What is ment by text determination wether it means copy controls are it differ from each other.Help me in this issue

Dear Chandra,
Text determination and copy controls are two defferent functions in the Sales and Distribution.
Regarding Text:-
Texts in Sales and Distribution
Purpose
In a business relationship, it is essential that business partners exchange information throughout the logistics chain. In sales and distribution, this exchange of information is supported by texts in master records and documents. You can maintain these texts for one particular customer or define them so that they can be used more flexibly.
Texts can be used in many areas of sales and distribution:
Sales notes for customers
Sales texts for materials
Explanations in order confirmations
Shipping instructions in deliveries
You can define as many text types as you require (sales texts, shipping texts, internal notes, supplement texts etc.) for master records and documents.
You can take the settings for the texts from Sales and Distribution Customizing under Text control.
Features
You store the texts that are to serve as information carriers in the system and in the output in the customer master record, the material master record, and in the sales and distribution documents. In addition the following processing and control functions are supported:
Texts are proposed from the master records in the sales and distribution documents, if you have made the appropriate setting.
Texts can be copied from a reference sales and distribution document into another sales and distribution document (e.g. from an inquiry into a sales order or from an order into a delivery).
The copying of texts can be made language dependent, if required.
You can change copied texts.
You can integrate standard texts into the sales and distribution documents
Regarding Copycontrols
Through this copy control configuration the flow of the sales documents will be defined.
Example:- We have standard SD flow
Inquiry>Quotation>Sales order>Delivery>Invoice
The above flow is happening based on the copy control settings.
If you go to these transactions you can get better idea
VTAA
VTFA
VTAF
VTFL
VTFF
I hope this will hel you
Regards,
Murali.

TEXT DETERMINATION & PARTNER DET

HI,
CAN YOU ALL TELL ME STEPS OF TEXT DETERMINATION & PARTNER DET. IN SAP 4.7 EE ?
RAJARSHI

HI.,
In a business relationship, it is essential that business partners exchange information throughout the logistics chain. In sales and distribution, this exchange of information is supported by texts in master records and documents. You can maintain these texts for one particular customer or define them so that they can be used more flexibly.
Texts can be used in many areas of sales and distribution:
Sales notes for customers
Sales texts for materials
Explanations in order confirmations
Shipping instructions in deliveries
You can define as many text types as you require (sales texts, shipping texts, internal notes, supplement texts etc.) for master records and documents.
You can take the settings for the texts from Sales and Distribution Customizing under Text control.
Features
You store the texts that are to serve as information carriers in the system and in the output in the customer master record, the material master record, and in the sales and distribution documents. In addition the following processing and control functions are supported:
Texts are proposed from the master records in the sales and distribution documents, if you have made the appropriate setting.
Texts can be copied from a reference sales and distribution document into another sales and distribution document (e.g. from an inquiry into a sales order or from an order into a delivery).
The copying of texts can be made language dependent, if required.
You can change copied texts.
You can integrate standard texts into the sales and distribution documents.
If you want to use texts more than once, you can enter these texts as standard texts and include them in the master record or document texts. If you define standard texts, they are included in the sales and distribution forms when they are issued.
Some standard texts to which you can refer in the sales and distribution documents have been defined in the standard version of the SAP R/3 System.
Notes on Entering Text
You can use standard texts to give notes to the employee entering an sales and distribution document regarding the information he should include in specific header or item texts and the sequence in which he should do it. For example, by including a standard text such as a header note in the sales document, you can make sure that the employee specifies in the first line whether the customer has taken advantage of a sales promotion in his purchase order and in the second line, how (newspaper, radio etc.) he found out about the promotion.
Proposals from the Master Records
The standard text above must first of all be created and then included in a text in the customer master. You can define in Customizing whether this text is automatically proposed from the customer master record in the header note of the document header when you create a sales document.
Standard texts can be proposed in the documents at header and item level in the same way from the material master record.
Create
To create a standard text, proceed as follows:
Select Tools ® SAPscript ® Standard text on the main menu screen.
Enter a name for the text to be created in the field Text name, the indicator ST in the field Text-ID, and the abbreviation for the language in which you want to create the text in the field Language.
Select Create/Change.
You switch to the SAPscript editor. If no standard text has been created with this name, the following message is displayed: Text stands for the language indicator with which you control the language of the standard text. The line in which you make these entries must have the formatting key /: (paragraph format for a command line) in the format column.
Calling Up At the Time of Issue
In Customizing any number of standard texts can be included in the definition of a sales and distribution forms. The texts then appear in the appropriate place in the form when each output is issued.
Further Information
You will find additional information on the SAPscript editor and on INCLUDEs as well as examples online in the hypertext system under the text module name STXD_ED. Proceed as follows:
Select Tools ® Hypertext ® Structures on the main menu screen.
Enter the text module name in the Structure field and in the Language field the abbreviation for the required language.
Select Structure ® Display.
You reach the Display Structure screen.
Place the cursor on the entry that you want to read and select Goto ® Document ® Read.
The content of the text module is displayed on the screen.
Select Back to return to the initial screen.
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Thanks & Regards
Narayana

Customization steps of the text determination processes

Can anybody anybody tell the customization steps of the text determination processes (transaction codes: VOTXN and SO10) of the header of the sales documents step by step in a detailed manner?
Thanks in advance.

Hi Hikmet,
In a business relationship, it is essential that business partners exchange information throughout the logistics chain. In sales and distribution, this exchange of information is supported by texts in master records and documents. You can maintain these texts for one particular customer or define them so that they can be used more flexibly.
Texts can be used in many areas of sales and distribution:
Sales notes for customers
Sales texts for materials
Explanations in order confirmations
Shipping instructions in deliveries
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2005vp/helpdata/en/38/9e9263a1f611d199ad0000e8a5bd28/frameset.htm
reward points if it helps u
with regards
Rajesh
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   Re: Text determination
Posted: Apr 5, 2007 12:42 PM    in response to: raju pusapati       Reply      E-mail this post
Hi,
In a business relationship, it is essential that business partners exchange information throughout the logistics chain. In sales and distribution, this exchange of information is supported by texts in master records and documents. You can maintain these texts for one particular customer or define them so that they can be used more flexibly.
Texts can be used in many areas of sales and distribution:
Sales notes for customers
Sales texts for materials
Explanations in order confirmations
Shipping instructions in deliveries
You can define as many text types as you require (sales texts, shipping texts, internal notes, supplement texts etc.) for master records and documents.
You can take the settings for the texts from Sales and Distribution Customizing under Text control.
Features
You store the texts that are to serve as information carriers in the system and in the output in the customer master record, the material master record, and in the sales and distribution documents. In addition the following processing and control functions are supported:
Texts are proposed from the master records in the sales and distribution documents, if you have made the appropriate setting.
Texts can be copied from a reference sales and distribution document into another sales and distribution document (e.g. from an inquiry into a sales order or from an order into a delivery).
The copying of texts can be made language dependent, if required.
You can change copied texts.
You can integrate standard texts into the sales and distribution documents.
If you want to use texts more than once, you can enter these texts as standard texts and include them in the master record or document texts. If you define standard texts, they are included in the sales and distribution forms when they are issued.
Some standard texts to which you can refer in the sales and distribution documents have been defined in the standard version of the SAP R/3 System.
Notes on Entering Text
You can use standard texts to give notes to the employee entering an sales and distribution document regarding the information he should include in specific header or item texts and the sequence in which he should do it. For example, by including a standard text such as a header note in the sales document, you can make sure that the employee specifies in the first line whether the customer has taken advantage of a sales promotion in his purchase order and in the second line, how (newspaper, radio etc.) he found out about the promotion.
Proposals from the Master Records
The standard text above must first of all be created and then included in a text in the customer master. You can define in Customizing whether this text is automatically proposed from the customer master record in the header note of the document header when you create a sales document.
Standard texts can be proposed in the documents at header and item level in the same way from the material master record.
Create
To create a standard text, proceed as follows:
Select Tools ® SAPscript ® Standard text on the main menu screen.
Enter a name for the text to be created in the field Text name, the indicator ST in the field Text-ID, and the abbreviation for the language in which you want to create the text in the field Language.
Select Create/Change.
You switch to the SAPscript editor. If no standard text has been created with this name, the following message is displayed: Text stands for the language indicator with which you control the language of the standard text. The line in which you make these entries must have the formatting key /: (paragraph format for a command line) in the format column.
Calling Up At the Time of Issue
In Customizing any number of standard texts can be included in the definition of a sales and distribution forms. The texts then appear in the appropriate place in the form when each output is issued.
Further Information
You will find additional information on the SAPscript editor and on INCLUDEs as well as examples online in the hypertext system under the text module name STXD_ED. Proceed as follows:
Select Tools ® Hypertext ® Structures on the main menu screen.
Enter the text module name in the Structure field and in the Language field the abbreviation for the required language.
Select Structure ® Display.
You reach the Display Structure screen.
Place the cursor on the entry that you want to read and select Goto ® Document ® Read.
The content of the text module is displayed on the screen.
Select Back to return to the initial screen.
Also Visit-
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MM

Help needed in TEXT determination procedure - Urgent

Hi Experts,
I have defined my own text determination procedure for complaints. This procedure is for the item category for the transaction(complaint).
The following are the Text ID's that I have include in my procedure :
1. C001
2. C002
3. C003
My requirment is to have logs(history) for each of the text id's(C001, C002, C003).
i.e. what ever i do in C001, it has to be loogged only in text id let;s say ZC001, same way C002 shld be logged only in ZC002 and C003 in ZC003.
I have also defined ZC001, ZC002, ZC003 in the text detrmination procedure.
Please help me in slving this problem. Can i do it in the config itself or shld i go for development?.
Regards,
Arul Jothi A.

hi,
This is what exactly i am lloking for, but i tried with your proposal. It didint work.
Please find the detailos below.
Text Object      CRM_ORDERI
Text Det.Proc:   ZCOMP001
Text Type Description              Seq.        changes     Transfer      Access Seq.
C001     Complaints Text     0001     P              -                   -
Z001     complaints1     0002     R     A     ZC01
C002     Internal note     0003     P              -                   -
Z002     original text test     0004     R     A     ZC02
C003     Recomm. Solution     0005     P              -                   -
Z003     original text 3     0006     R     A     ZC03
Access Seq :
ZC01 :
Ref. Object     CRM_ORDERI
Ref. Text Type C001
continue chcked.
ZC02.
Ref. Object     CRM_ORDERI
Ref. Text Type C002
continue chked
ZC03.
Ref. Object     CRM_ORDERI
Ref. Text Type C003
continue chked
I want to log all C001 text into Z001 only, C002 in Z002 only and C003 in Z003 only.
hope you got it....
Please help.
Regrads,
Arul Jothi A

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I inserted the input animation on one slide and the output
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When I preview, the input box doesn't show up. What am I
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Hi there
Likely you are using Captivate 3 and you have upgraded your
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here to read a thread where I believe one of he Adobe Captivate
team sheds a bit of light on the issue
Click here for an Article
and link for uninstalling Flash Player/Plug In:
Click here for an Article
and link for installing and older version of the Flash Player/Plug
In:
Version 9 should allow things to work okay with Captivate 3
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Text Determination Sales document to sales document

Hi Friends,
We are configuring text determination sales document to sales document (ZOR to ZLR).
We have done following configuration:
1. text type - Z122 ( invoice text header)
2.) test determination procedure Z1. In text determination procedure Z1 is copy button is enabled. and access seguence 9122 is assigned.
3. text determination Z1 is assigened to text type Z122.
4.) text determination is assigned to document type - ZOR.
let me know what configruation we are missing here.
While creating sales order we are giving some description in header text invoice header but the same is not copied to subsequent document ZLR. ( debit memo request).
We are using this in Resource related billing.( RRB).
Document flow is
sales order ( zor)-internal order ( ko01)- Accounting document( fb01)- Resource relating billing doc ( DP91) we generate debit memo request from DP91.
We need the invoice text entered in sales order (va01) to copied in debit memo request ( ZLR.)
We need this at both header and item level.
kindly suggest.

Hi,
Which text determination and text types assigned to ZLR?
If you maintain- same text type - you can copy
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Replication of text determination (business partner) between ERP and CRM

Hello,
in ERP I have maintained a text determination procedure Z1 and assigned it to the text object "KNA1". The textprocedure include the Text ID's "Z011" and "Z020".
In CRM exist the text object "KNA1" and "BUT000". I have customized a a text determination procedure "Z1" and the same Text ID's as in ERP, to booth text objects.
The text ID's don't be replicated, no matter i maintain it in CRM or ERP.
Can anybody tell me, how can I replicate the content of the text ID's? What is the relevant text object in CRM?
Thanks for help
Regards
Andreas

Andrea,
There are objects for replicating the data between CRM and CDB.
CRM_DNL_TTXOB and CRM_DNL_TTXID.
But none for replication between R/3 and CRM. WE need to maintain it manually.
Regards,
Aj.

Text determination procedure in Marketing Plan

HI All,
I am using text object CGPL_TEXT and Text determination procedure MPL assigned under it. Text determination procedure MPL has two text types "Description" and "Notes". System is allowing to select "Notes" in marketing plan and enter the text. Next time if I try to select same type "Note" then system is giving error "Make entry in the field Language". But I can select other type "Description" and enter the text.
Does it mean system allow to enter text for a text type only once? What if I want to use same text type for multiple time to enter information related to the same item.
Any pointer?
Regards,
Nikhil

Dear Nikhil,
You are correct that in standard only one text type can be created per language... i.e. 'Note in English' or 'Description in English' can only be created once. But you can certainly add information to a previously created text type.
I'm not sure if there is a technical way to change this.
Regards,
Anik Roy
SAP CRM Moderator

Purpose of Access sequence in text determination procedure?

Dear all,
I can get my text id's at sales document header/item level by simply assigning my defined text id to the text determination procedure.
now, what is the need for having an access sequence where a text abject and text id is maintained??
Thanks and regards
KV

Hi,
Define Access Sequences For Determining Texts
In this IMG activity, you define the access sequences which the SAP System uses to determine the texts for a text object.
Afterwards, you specify an access sequence for the text search in the determination procedure for every text type.
You only define access sequences for sales and distribution documents, not for customer master records.
With an access sequence, you define the sequence and the requirements of the search used by the SAP System to find a text.
This allows you, for example, to have the system check whether a text exists in the customer language. If this is not the case, then a text in the sales organisation language can be searched for. If this is also unsuccessful, you can have the system carry out the search using English as the fixed value.
To do this, you make the following specifications for every access sequence:
acc. no (access number)
With the access number, you define the sequence in which the text objects of an access sequence should be read. The element with the lowest access number is read first. If an appropriate text is found, the search is ended. Otherwise, the SAP System checks the element with the next number up.
Text object
Here, you define which text objects should be checked by the SAP System for an access sequence.
In the standard SAP R/3 System, for example, in the access sequence 0001 for the text object sales document header is defined, that the SAP System first searches for a form header text in the preceding document (text object VBBK) and afterwards for a sales note in the customer master record (text object KNVV).
ID (text type)
Here, you define which text type is to be read from the specified text object.
It is recommended to select the same text type for the text to be copied. For example, the text for the form header in the customer master record (text type 0001) should be copied into the text for form header of a sales document (text type 0001).
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