Text Wrap doesn't apply

I brought in a photo and applied text wrap to it (wrap bounding box; wrap to both left and right) and it had no effect when I applied it to the text. I tried the text wrap command on another document and it worked fine. Any ideas what is happening? Thanks. (CS4 ID with 10.5.6)

To where did you "bring it in"? Is it free-standing on the page or inline/anchored to some text?
Is the photo in front of or behind the text? What is the setting of your Composition preference "Text Wrap Only Affects Text Beneath"?
Dave

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Yipee.
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