Text wrap in anchored objects

In order to place text boxes relative to the spine, I have placed them as anchored objects.
But now, these text frames do not respect text wrap setting from objects outside of the anchored object.
I have made sure that ignore text wrap in text frame options is not checked.
Is this a bug?
And does anyone know a workaround?

In order to make my design indifferent to later added pages, I have placed all text frames and graphic placeholders as anchored objects, positioning them relative to spine.
When I now place an object on top of such an anchored text frame, text wrap is not working, even if i overide the master page item.
The only work around I have found is to copy the respective text frame and make the original master page item unvisible.
Is there not another way to to this?
For me, the best would be another way of placing text and graphic frames relative to spine.
Bus as soon as one overrides the master page item, the object is not placed anymore relative to spine if another page is inserted.

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Text wrap around an achored object

I'm continually frustrated by a text wrap issue around an achored object in a story. I have two anchored textframes that are taking up the top half of a text frame, one of them has a full column text wrap applied to it which forces the first title of the regular text to begin beneath it. My issue is that sometimes this title falls too close to the anchored text frames but if I add space to the bottom of the text wrap, the title does not snug to the text wrap but will stay tight until the wrap adjustment invades the cap height and then it will suddenly jump way down what looks like the full line height of the style, creating way too much of a gap. I can't seem to get a clean even space between my anchored textframe and the first line of text. I'm doing hundreds of files with this set up and they are looking different because the anchored text frames are all different sizes and I can't get that space between them and the first title to be uniform. I'm sure I'm missing an option somewhere, but I can't figure out what it is. I want the first line of text to snug up to the edge of the text wrap, and it just won't do it. I've looked through all my style options and can't figure out what I'm missing. "Align to grid" is set to "None," and "Start Paragraph" is set to "Anywhere."
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I am sort of experienced with InDesign but new to EPUB export. I have hundreds of pages and hundreds of images so I'd like to make my EPUB learning curve, in particular, less painful.
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Creating numbered lists that have specialty art behind the numbers. To do this currently, you have to either do manual numbering and group it with each object and anchor the object with the number into the line of text or you have to keep the auto-number list and the objects for the numbers separate and manually reposition the number objects whenever the text reflows.
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With anchoring "Above Line" the anchored objects are really stacked behind. At least that stacking order is true for all characters after the anchor character. Using a different anchoring method will always yield in anchored objects stacked above (foreground).
Doing some tricks with the effects panel on the anchored object is alright, so that all the other text, that is stacked below will showing through, but you should be aware, that these effects will change the game when it comes to color separation for print workflows.
Separation preview with all channels visible CMYK:
Separation preview with [Black] not visible CMY:
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All black text, that comes after the anchor character will overprint, all text before will not. And that "will not" is definitive. If we look at the objects in Acrobat Pro after exporting to PDF, we will see that not overprinting characters "ut endis" in my little screenshot here are below the green rectangle, all characters following after the anchor are above the green rectangle.
Here a screen shot from Acrobat Pro that will reveal the stacking order a bit (the transparent background of the page is shown as gray; an option in Acrobat Pro's view preferences):
So in the end, "ut endis" will be printed with a total amount of color:
0 Cyan
0 Magenta
0 Yellow
100 Black
Sum: 100%
The "black" text following due to overprinting* (EDIT) will be printed with:
75 Cyan
5 Magenta
100 Yellow
100 Black
Sum: 280%
* AND of stacking order of course!
All other black text will overprint as well, but there is no effect for the green rectangle because the text is stacked behind the rectangle.
Uwe

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