Textures in 3d Toolkit?

OK,
I imported an iges into 3d toolkit, however the associated jpg image didn't show up for the texture.
I even tried dragging one of the standard textures 'beach' onto the model, but it still didn't display. (Just changed the colour)
Any ideas what I am doing wrong?
ps.. I noticed a little exclamation mark in the bottom RH corner

What does it say to the right of the exlamation point? Does it indicate you're using DIrectX 8 or 9? I don't know about dragging textures onto the model here. I always have dragged materials onto a model. (My knowledge of this is somewhat limited, but I've had good luck with applying and editing materials on the models). Make sure you're using the latest drivers for your card. I'm running a fairly wimpy ThinkPad at the moment and if I choose the chrome material it reflects the beach just fine in the Toolkit on an .igs model.

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I have read a number of messages now that are asking the same question about applying textures and materials to imported files. The one thing I have noticed is that
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I have an app which has been happily ticking over for several weeks, and then this error was generated when attempting to write a table to a spreadsheet.
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Solved!
Go to Solution.

Hi Christian,
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