The "Cold Boot Issue" - What is it all about?
Read many replys and posts, but what is it realy?
Quote from: syar2003 on 16-March-05, 02:40:21
CPU sensor sw reads out around 10C higher on a OFF/ON boot from the winbond sensor chip compared with a restart of system .
I think AMD should take some of the blaim for their strange implementation of the tcase temp registers in their cpu and usage.
The difference is that when you restart there is valid data in one of the registers that's empty doing a coold boot .
This isn't a problem if a protocol for valid/unvalid data is employed. If no valid data is available it's wrong to put valid data in a register.
If a valid/unvalid protocol is emplyed and and a device uses invalid data then it's the one creating a problem, not the device from which the invalid data is read.
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I saw this report being sent to Apple:
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Panics Since Last Report: 10
Anonymous UUID: F4CF708D-D85C-4EC5-8047-4FC22C6B03AF
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panic(cpu 0 caller 0xffffff80002d1208): Kernel trap at 0xffffff800020c590, type 14=page fault, registers:
CR0: 0x0000000080010033, CR2: 0x0000000000000000, CR3: 0x0000000007541000, CR4: 0x0000000000040660
RAX: 0xffffff8000000000, RBX: 0xffffff800d35a870, RCX: 0xffffff800cf55cd8, RDX: 0xffffff80008a8fcc
RSP: 0xffffff805e5f3d60, RBP: 0xffffff805e5f3da0, RSI: 0x000000001dcd6500, RDI: 0xffffff800d168778
R8: 0x0000000000000001, R9: 0xffffff805e5f3e88, R10: 0x0000000000000011, R11: 0x0000000000000000
R12: 0x0000000000000000, R13: 0xffffff800d168770, R14: 0xffffff800d168778, R15: 0x0000000000000000
RFL: 0x0000000000010082, RIP: 0xffffff800020c590, CS: 0x0000000000000008, SS: 0x0000000000000010
Error code: 0x0000000000000000
Backtrace (CPU 0), Frame : Return Address
0xffffff805e5f3a00 : 0xffffff8000204d15
0xffffff805e5f3b00 : 0xffffff80002d1208
0xffffff805e5f3c50 :
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Run Rember first... call back with results.
Good luck,
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PT880----Possible cold boot issue-----What are YOUR boot times??
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JohnQuote
Originally posted by markt435
Well I finally got my system fixed. Hmmm I have about a 20 sec start up. My proc is overclocked to 3.4Ghz as well. I would try reseating memory or clearing the BIOS. Or putting different sticks of memory in if you have any laying around.
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Who Said What That Got The "Cold Boot Problems Solved" Thread Deleted?
Hello, guys.
I logged in this morning and saw that Falipay??? had posted last in the thread I started called [something like] "Cold Boot Issues Solved And Temps Now Correct". I didn't get a chance to read it, but now that I've logged back in to see what he and others may have written since my last post, the thread is gone. Not edited...gone.
What happened since I last posted that got it deleted? It's not that important, but I was curious. Hope it wasn't something I did (I'm not showing any warnings).
Anyway, thanks.Hey, Bas.
I see now that you reinstated my deleted thread. It should be apparent that my thread was not about me "telling people to buy Asus". Thanks for reconsidering your position.
And thanks Maxed Out for coming to my defense in the following thread (the "foul" language thing had me confused until I realized you guys were originally discussing something that happened before I ever joined the forum):
Re: Maxed Out's post dated 7-21-2004
From https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threadid=53961&sid=
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bump due to yet more deleted threads.............
Link to mention of deleted thread......
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threadid=55411&sid=
The thread that was deleted provided relevant user evidence of differences in MB's using the identical NF3-250 chipsets and baseline CPU, memory and power supply. With different results ....thus pointing to apparently correctable issues MSI needs to address.........there was absolutly no fol..(faoul foul fal?)...fowl language there, the users tests and opinions were presented unbiasedly and rationally (and had appropriate praise for MSI's strengths (spelling from BIOS)..........
Why shouldn't forum users be advised of this?
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iTunes for Windows XP: Troubleshooting unexpected quits, freezes, or launch issues
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1421
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delays at post on blank screen with exception of "A2" and or "B3" displayed in the bottom right hand side of the screen.
Generally after stops looking for a floppy to boot to, which makes no sense at all there is not even a floppy header or bios option to disable.
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The issue remains intermittent cold boot issues.
I haven't had a system pass these test and have cold boot issues since the NF2 days.
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bumping Vcore way past minimum required to boot to any given clock down to 4.2 (1.2v)
bumping CPU I/O same as above
running at default
running at default with XMP
running default manually set RAM timings and volts
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disable a boot devices except actual boot drive
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What are the beep codes for this board?
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I thought I bought an enthusiast motherboard yet RPMs from motherboard fan headers are only monitored 1&2 headers.
I use Aida64 Extreme to monitor temps and voltages but conspicuously missing are things like VTT, SA and PLL voltages and the temps for same.
Is this normal?
are they lacking sensors on this board?
or do I have a defective board?
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When I tried to use Firefox this morning I got this message with exclamation marks.
"SQlite Version Error The application has been updated, but your version of SQlite is too old and the application cannot run."
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Myself, I count myself lucky. Everything works perfectly for me right now...email, bluetooth, maps, gps, 3rd party apps, battery life, 3G, wifi, etc. etc.
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<Post Edited By Host>Sorry for the second same words reply but I want people to see this is a scam thank you
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The system seems sluggish, as well. I can't find anything in help that describes what this is all about.
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