The evils of live update?

can someone explain to me why using liveupdate is so wrong?
the only reason i ask is because winflash performs an illegal operation as soon as i try to run it...
it used to work under my last build... not since the new mobo tho...
maybe because its an ecs tool?

Quote from: meta_sin on 09-February-06, 01:39:11
maybe because its an ecs tool?
let me get this straight. are you using the software from the ecs mobo to flash your msi bios? ??? if yes, just lay off the beer.
for info on how to flash the bios read the stickies in the bios section of the forum.

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I recently purchased a barbones computer with the K9VGM-V motherboard. After installing all the drivers on the disk, updating Windows 2000 competely through Windows Update I decided to try Live Update. The first thing I updated was my BIOS from Ver. 1.6 to 1.7. The flash was completely successful. However when I went back to Live Update(the latest version btw) the minute I executed the program my system completely crashed! It was like I had hit the reset switch. I decided to format my HD and reinstall everything. The BIOS works fine and the system is entirely stable, but even after starting with a clean slate I tried the Online version of Live Update and the same thing happened. My computer crashed and restarted itself. This happened after the BIOS flash so it must be related to that. I am just not sure how or why. Any suggestions or input?
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So you have crash only when trying to using LiveUpdate or? If yes just ignore it and do not use LiveUpdate

Please help, simple question about Smart Playlists and Live Updating

PLEASE for some reason I've never gotten an answer on this.
I have a Smart Playlist called "Recently Played" with Live Updating. No matter how I set the parameters, the most recently played *song will ALWAYS appear on the bottom of the list when using my iPhone on the go.* I bolded that because I want you to be aware I'm not talking about on iTunes - I'm aware you can change how the list is viewed on iTunes.
When using your iPod/iPhone on the fly and Live Updating is enabled, is there any way to make the most recently played song appear at the very top???
Thanks so much

Haven't seen that problem before but try the following: in iTunes, right-click the playlist name and enable the option "Copy to Play Order." Then sync.
The normal use of "Copy to Play Order" when you have the playlist displayed in iTunes in some sort order, but you want it to display in the iPod in shuffled order (as it will actually play). Different problem than you are observing, but the same thing "might" help.... Let us know.

Smart playlists not live updating on ipod touch (2nd gen)

Scenario:
I have a smartplaylist with live updating ticked in itunes. this playlists looks for tracks with a star rating between 4 and 5 stars and places them in the playlist. in itunes when i listen to new music with no rating and i give it a rating that meets this rule it works and places that said track in the playlist.
I then sync my ipod and the updated playlist with the new tracks that i have just rated goes on there. all good so far.
But when i rate a track on my ipod when i am away from my computer and i give it 4 or 5 stars it does not "live update" and place it on the said playlist. I have to wait untill i get home and synce with my itunes library for the newly rated tracks to go on my desired playlist.
isnt that the point of "live updating" playlists?
I should be able to rate a track and for it to go onto this playlist whilst i am "on the go"
This way of working always worked on my other ipods. just not with my touch.
any help or advice? is this a known software bug to do with the touch?
Thanks for reading, Comments and suggestions welcome.

Yes, I've had this problem several times. There seem to be certain criteria you can't use in a playlist and expect it to work on you iPod. I don't know if this will solve your problem but here's what I've figured out:
I have a 5G ipod classic. Any playlists that I've created using the criteria 'podcast is true/false' won't live update on the iPod. I've solved this by changing the criteria to 'genre contains podcast' and that works just fine.
The playlists that I've created using the 'playlist is' AND selecting one of (oh how to put this) iTunes library playlists that appear at the top of itunes (in my case "Music" and "TV Shows") (the ones with the icons), also do not live update on the ipod. For whatever reason, these default playlists seem to break live updating on the iPod, but not in iTunes. I got around it by using a whole list of genres to include/exclude to create my music playlist (there's probably a better way to do it). For my playlists that contain TV shows, I set all the TV shows I've ripped from my DVD's to have a genre of 'music and television' and use that to create a playlist. That also works.
You stated that you use the rating criteria to create your playlist, but might you also be using the default lists at the top too? of course, i'm not using an ipod touch so maybe this isn't helpful. I hope it is, because i know how crazy this was making me... good luck...

10.4 Smart Playlist Live Update Issue

Hi All,
Among the other challenges presented by the 10.4 series of updates (greyed out commands, disabled shortcuts that come and go for no apparent reason) the smart playlist live update function seems to be broken. I do a lot of tagging and use smart playlists to identify tracks that need particular tags. I used to be able to highlight them all, run a script and they'd all get tagged and clear out. Now it breaks down after a couple and grinds to a halt. Works fine if you turn live update off, run the script then turn it back on, but that kind of defeats the purpose right?
On the smart playlist thread, I've also encountered an issue where I can no longer edit a smart playlist: command-I doesn't work and "edit smart playlist" is greyed out in the "file" menu.
Anybody else know what the deal is, or is it just part of iTunes becoming less of a music player because it's "more than a music player?"

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Not sure how to tell what command is getting stuck, but it's definitely the interaction between the script and the live update feature because it works perfectly when live update is off (and the script is fairly simple - see below).
Thing is that it's not the smart playlists themselves that aren't working, they are all fine, issue is limited to the live update feature. I use SPs to tag particular things (ie dragging to a playlist causes it to show up in the smart playlist if it's not tagged - so I go to smart playlist & run the script to tag all of them in a batch and once they've got the tag they should disappear from the SP). Here's the script, though, slightly modified for me by the author - it's actually pretty ******* if you want to steal it. He wrote one for removing tags too (all using the grouping section):
property okflag : false
-- check if iTunes is running
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end tell
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            activate
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                        if (length of (genre of current_track as string)) is not 0 then
                            set track_groups to {}
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890FXA-GD70 bios update via Live Updat & now won't load windows...help pls

Hi There
First off, please excuse the fact that I am not very experienced with the tech aspects of a home build (which this is & I bought off the builder), or any build for that matter..
I was getting a 'keyboard/interface' press f1 to continue error message, when I started my computer, along with most of the usb ports not working when windows 7 ultimate (64) sp1 (build 7601) loads.
Otherwise it was working fine..
So I deceided to follow the instructions of the Live Update tool & used the total installer to update the bios from American Megatrends V1.10 06/30/2011 to the latest bios. I know now that wasn't very wise (why is it even an option if it can do soooo much harm?).
After it updated the bios there was a question (which I don't recall of course), something about ROM I think and not being the same, with 3 choices to correct it and I'm pretty sure I went with the 1st option for it to be corrected.
So now when I turn the computer on it starts loading everything (I can get in to the bios setup), right after it shows the windows logo it flashes a blue screen with some type on it & goes to windows startup repair which of course doesn't help & tries to do a system recovery which also doesn't work.
I don't want to do any more damage by fiddling around with things I know little about.
I was encouraged to read in one of the post answers that if it gets to the point where Windows goes to load than the mobo is ok...hopefully!
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
Specs: (Copied from a Belarc Advisor scan)
O/S Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) Service Pack 1 (build 7601)
Main Board: 890FXA-GD70, Bus Clock: 200 megahertz BIOS: American Megatrends V1.10 06/30/2011
Processor: 3.30 gigahertz AMD Phenom II X 6 1100T Multi Core Not hyper-threaded
Drive: ST3500418AS Hard drive 500 gig SMART Status: Healthy
HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH24LS50 ATA Device (optical drive)
Optiarc DVD RW AD-728OS ATA Device (optical drive)
PSU: Corsair GS500
12 gigs of RAM 1. 2048, 2. 2048, 3. 4096 4. 4096
Display adapter: MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5
Local Drive Volumes: c: (NTFS on drive 0)
Hopefully that is the required info on the specs.
Thanks in advance for any assistance.
Rob

yes the BIOS controls the CMOS from that User interface with all the settings menus!
and yes its in there where you can see what Drive mode its set at!
if its using the older style BIOS like my board has and not a UEFI then in this heading set:
1: go into your BIOS (press Delete)
2: Integrated Perifirals
3: On-Chip ATA Devices
4: Raid Mode <--- the options for that should be in there if its the same and may have been set to IDE mode before the update but may be set to AHCI now after you flashed the BIOS via live update which is more then likely why your getting a BSOD as it in the wrong operating mode!

DR8-A2 not recognised following Live Update

Hi,
Having ruled out a motherboard problem (thank goodness), it seems that my DR8-A2 DVD drive is the cause of my system hanging at POST whilst detecting IDE drives.
Whilst in Windows (XP Pro), reconnecting the power to this drive causes the system to hang until I disconnect the drive's power.
Just prior to all of this happening, I had updated the firmware using Live Update 3 to see if this would cure a problem with the drive not always 'seeing' a CD unless it was reinserted a couple of times. Now that I cannot boot with the drive attached, is there anyway to try to reflash it back to life?
Thanks for any suggestions,
Patrick

Well it just happened to me aswell, ran live update and now the system doesnt recognise it at bios level, like you said the system just hangs at post unless i cancel the detect, but if i continue to load windows xp in safe mode the system will boot, but obviously without the dvd writer... but loading windows in normal mode it just hangs or crashes as soon as i click the mouse...
now if the drive isntr recognised at bios level how the hell can i flash it back etc...
i think they screwed up on this firmware release now i have a dead drive

MS-8448M MSI Live Update OSD wont dect later Firmware

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MSI Live Update 3.53 OSD wont detect later Firmware
error message:MSI Live Monitor found no available version from MSI Server
I just installed the MS-8448M (X48) (ATAPI COMBO48XMAX ) Drive
The firmware is Version 1.10.I downloaded Version X48-Vs120 I want to update the drive but live update state no updates are available yet I downloaded one
I tried to update through Dos with no luck

:wall:well I found it OMG!
Model below
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X48MK0309011494 1
Live Update Info:
MSI Live OSDTM Version: 3.53.000
Optical Storage Drive Information:
(1) OSD Manufacturer MSI
(1) OSD Model Name MS-8448M
(ATAPI COMBO48XMAX )
(1) OSD Chipset Vendor MediaTek
(1) OSD Firmware Version 1.10
and NOTE here is the link:
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/driver/dvr/spt_dvr_detail.php?UID=499
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N560GTX-Ti OC freeze during CoD4 MP after update VGA BIOS with Live Update

hi
I updated the bios via live update , and i want the stock one back couse cod4 freezes my pc after a few minutes so i cant play
please help me.
(i am sure thats the problem couse i could play the game before i done that update... i thought it will be useful since it was telling me there was an updat, and updates usually great , right? )
s\n : 602-V238-130B1103125151
thank You in advance.
oh and please tell me the exact right way to update it, i dont want to fry my vga card

well i reinstalled my x64 win7 after the bios update (full wipe) and the problem remained the same...
also tried older nvidia drivers too( but i played the game with the newest without any errors) and tried the stable one that was with the vga. still freezing the game

Live Update down for AMD boards?

Ok it has been down for a week now and I don't know why :( Support is just asking me to reinstall... But the problem clearly isn't in my setup.
Here is pic of how many drivers can Live Update find for me.
Here is the info that Live Update shows to my mainboard.
When I search for AMD boards in Live Update it gives me zero results (at least for all AMD K8 boards), but Intel boards shows just fine.
MSI could you please fix this problem soon?

Quote from: Tiresmoke on 15-July-05, 07:20:40
Sigh... Yet another web drama queen.
LOL He will be back when he has a real issue. We give the best tech support on the web but we can't contol MSI's own website that contains Live Update and their drivers.
I guess some folks never will get it.
Or does he still think that I work for MSI? HeHeHe
Sorry didn't notice at first that this was a USER 2 USER forum...
Won't be back here after this post since I have no need for tech support (can manage my self).
Quote from: bassmadrigal on 15-July-05, 07:25:58
Boy you would think if he is having so many problems that he would download everything manually and update it that way.
Have Fun
Jeremy
Don't you think that I have installed the drivers alreayd?...
I only posted because they have a bug in their system and it seems that they don't know it themselves.
I already issued this problem to techsupport, but they just asked me to reinstall (even when I said that I had done that allready)...
Gave them a bit more info and hopefully they will understand that the problem is in their servers.
WoW bassmadrigal don't loose your temper right away when someone doesn't bother to read the "rules"
One post and you all are flaming around like bunch of 5 year olds.
Bye bye it was surely a colorfull visit.

How to make live update stuff...

HI, everyone..
I would like to make the program for Live Update stuff like AntiVirus Norton.
Please Let me know how to make it, and Could anybody tell me about algorithm of it?
I have no idea how to do...
Thank you...
God bless you..

I'm not sure whether you want, like, more elegant solution than this, but here it is:
1. Make user execute your 'LiveUpdate' program.
2. Make the program talk to your server or (if you don't have a server) CGI script using Networking API
i.e. You can have a custom CGI script on Tripod.3. Determine whether there is an update
4. If there is an update, download!

Z87-GD65: Live Update 5.0.112 does not display BIOS 1.8 update

As the title says Live Update 5.0.112 does not display BIOS 1.8 update for the Z87-GD65. Yet Live Update 5.0.111 does show the BIOS 1.8 update. Why is this so?

I have to be honest and say I am tearing my hair out trying to update the BIOS on this motherboard. Why is it so convoluted?
1. I tried the USB boot with FPT. I can't get the FPT and BIOS files to show when I reboot to the bootable USB stick. Apparently the FPT version is used to also flash the "me extension"? (Whatever the hell that is).
2. I can't use the Live Update because it is unreliable (as claimed by the forum).
3. I can't use MFLASH because that doesn't work properly and corrupts the BIOS.
4. Yet another method is to download the "MSI HQ Forum USB Flasher". Which is in a .RAR file no less!
Geez MSI you don't make it easy for the average punter. When I had a Gigabyte motherboard it was a simple Windows flash utility and it worked!
Is there one single easy way to update this BIOS?!

How can i flash my bios from 1.9 to 1.8 using live update?

I flashed my bios the other day from 1.2 to 1.9 and nothing but problems.
Is there a way i can grab 1.8 using the windows utility live update?

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/realitybites/MS-7025%20v1.80.rar
here you go then bios 18 waiting for you.
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[915 Series] Problem with Live Update 3

I'm having a problem installing MSI's Live Update 3 on my PC. Everytime I install it and reboot the PC, the following happens: boot-up will progress normally through POST, the Windows XP Splash screen, the Welcome Screen, up through the initial load-up of my Windows desktop. But before all the system tray icons finish loading in the taskbar, I will get a blue screen of death and the PC spontaneously reboots, and the cycle will continue infinitely. I know that it is definitely the Live Update software that is causing this, because A) I can boot up into safe mode and the error does not occur until I try to manually start the Live Update software B) the error stops occuring if I (in safe mode) initiate a System Restore and go back before the point where Live Update was installed. I would like to be able to use my Live Update software if possible, but I can't get beyond this system crash with it installed. Any suggestions?

Rename or delete the ntaccess.sys file in \Program Files\MSI\Live Update 3. You will get a error when you run Live Update or Live Monitor about a service not started but just keep clicking OK and it seems to work, although I only download the files and canceled the installation. For online Live Update I think you'll find the file in \Windows\System32. Good luck.

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Hello everyone!
So I have a GT70 notebook, and when I register it on the MSI website, the product name says: GE70 0ND.
The serial number says GT70-0NDXXXXX....
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Also, I have another question: I used Live Update 5 a while ago, but now I saw the disclaimer, saying that it's not for notebooks...:( What do I do? How do I get rid of the drivers? Also, is there something like Live Update for notebooks aswell?
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Hi 14Died14,
For the registration problem, think it's better to contact MSI and ask them to check of your registration.
http://register.msi.com/
As you known Live Update 5 is not for notebook and the fastest way to uninstall all the drivers you installed by using live update is to do system reset and re-install all the drives. Sadly you'll have to download all the drivers and update them one by one. I'll strongly recommend you to re-install the drivers since there might be some unknown issues pops up if you're using the drivers from live update.
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