The I-do-not-like-Firefox-29-layout topic

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Moderators, please read first before closing/removing this topic right away?<br>
To those wanting to react here on this topic: please, also read ;)<br>
Since my original posting https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/997009 was closed because one of the moderators felt it was going off-topic (although it was red a lot and had 131 "have-this-problem" in just a few days), here a kind of re-opening but on-topic.<br>
Why? Because I feel we have the right to express our feelings on this major change. And publicly there is actually only this forum where that can be done on the Mozilla.org domain.<br>
Sure, the change is there and we have to live with it (if we choose to). But that doesn't mean we can not have our voice here because after many, many years of supporting FF with our use, we suddenly are facing a layout we were always running away from.<br>
So yes, that can cause ranting and so on (within the forum rules of course) because people feel strongly about there beloved browser.<br> (edit rules [[Forum rules and guidelines|link]] note the whole topic is ordinarily outside the scope of the forum _{... Posts in the Mozilla support forum must be either questions about the use of Firefox, ... Users who post about things other than Mozilla support will be directed to an alternative discussion place .... .} ~J99)
Plus this way you can centralize all the negatives here instead of a lot of separate postings about the same subject ;)<br>
To the people reacting here in this topic: there is only 1 real way to let Mozilla itself know how you feel on the new lay out and that is not through this forum. The way is to go to https://input.mozilla.org/feedback/ and let it know there. <br/> <sub>'''edit''' <s>You need to use a supported Firefox to post Feedback so that will soon not be possible from Fx28 </s> 2nd edit. I was wrong feedback works with any version of Fiefpx now~J99 <br/>
And I think when that is done in normal words (so no f*ck you rants and so on) and suggestions, then maybe, just maybe, it has some effect.<br>
Also, there is an Mozilla support page with info on how to get the "old look" back, see <!-- https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-to-make-new-firefox-look-like-old-firefox EDIT better link as extone is capable of redirecting to match: locales, versions, & OS --> [[How to make the new Firefox look like the old Firefox]]But it will only partly restore the old look, certain FF29 things can not be changed.<br>
And yes, I myself am back to Firefox 28 which is not supported or suggested by Mozilla because it has things (bugs and security) that are not fixed in it. ('''Edit''' Please use Official downloads if you must downgrade links in [[Install an older version of Firefox]] and the growing list of exploits you will open yourself up to is listed here: https://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/firefox.html ~J99)
I am not suggesting or advertising to others to do the same. It is a risk I am willing to take and only say it is an option. <br /> edit My reason to go back to FF 28 is because that version still has the intuitive feel and look Firefox one was praised for. With a logical lay out and a good way to simply customize it (also in about:config).<br>
For those who say/think "Come one man, stop whining! Grow up and just accept that Firefox has to go with its time!", to them I say: nope ;)<br><br>
First edit Modified May 10, 2014 7:54:58 PM BST by John99
<br />2nd: re feedback

Answer 1

Because I do not stand behind it: I think it's very weird to first make a complete overhaul and then write an article on how to overhaul the overhaul.<br>
For me that's the same as to complete redesign your favourite car, including parts of it's engine. Then, after that massive job, offering that car and make a remark that you can get a make-over to make it look like the old design again. They will put me in a straitjacket and I will be taken away I think ;)<br>
Don't get me wrong: I think it's a great sign of support that the article is there. It's an acknowledgement by Mozilla that they understand that there are people who want the old layout.<br>
But it's also something that is only done by the "hardcore" users. There are more then enough people who do not know about this forum, the article or whatever and are badly surprised with the overhaul.<br>
And then there is the matter of principle: there are a lot of users who feel that their browser has been sold out. By that I mean that Mozilla made a choice to make the base of Firefox look like the other two mainstream browsers. For them Firefox was THE choice to go against the "big guys". Now that feeling has been taken away and no overhaul of the overhaul article can take that feeling away.<br>
Personally I belong also a bit in that last category: I still have and wear the big, heavy Firefox T-shirt I got many years ago ;)