The N97 is still rubbish on v21 firmware

After upgrading my N97 to v21 there were some improvements but the phone was still very slow and still had several bugs, stability issues, and poor reception.
As I had upgraded without a reset I decided to try doing a complete rebuild of the phone to see if I could iron out some of the issues that I had been having with the phone. So I uninstalled all of the apps, formatted the mass memory, hard reset the phone, reflashed the v21 firmware, hard reset the phone again, performed the setup, re-installed the apps, reloaded my media, and reloaded the maps data. As you can imagine this is not a small undertaking with just the reloading of media and maps taking several hours even though I only use a third of the mass memory.
So after all of this effort the phone was slightly better but still suffers from bugs, stability and performance issues, and poor reception.
Nokia this just isn't good enough for your expensive flagship device. Firstly the consumer shouldn't have to go to this amount of effort for a firmware upgrade and secondly after the v21 firmware upgrade the N97 is still not reliable, terribly slow, and provides a very poor user experience. 
Nokia N97 (RM-507) v 22
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The Nokia N97 and the Nokia N97 Mini are rubbish phones. Unfortunately I am locked into a contact, so will have to use this piece of rubbish until 2011. Nokia just don't seem to be able to get it right, as even the new version of the Ovi Suite does not work correctly. I have tried loading this on a machine running XP, Windows 7 and Vista, and the Ovi suite still does not work correctly. When you sync your contacts, it takes for ever, and then gives you an error message. I will never use another Nokia product, they seem to have lost there way

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    I know this is a user-to-user support forum but I believe a complaint to be some sort helps users to decide whether the N97 is for them or not. Before you read on, this post will contain comparisons to competitors, so if you hate apples, feel free to ignore me! (Also I don't think users should stop harassing Nokia for what they have done to us - the more complaints the better. Igoring customers is not a very good corporate strategy. Eventually it will take them down - people buy Nokia for quality, otherwise they could buy a rip-off from ebay).
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    hi ! the nokia n97 is a really an amazing device. It keeps up to the promise of live online 24 x 7. I discovered it and wanted to share. Still there are some unanswered questions and if any vetran could help would really appreciate.
    i am an user from India. and have the n97 for about 3-4 weeks now. Practically I have been living online 24 x 7 as The list of unexpected issues that a nokia n97 offers seems unending, some of which i am narrating have made me scout on the web to try n search answers.Not that i will be able to action information you provide instantly. My new phone has gone for reparis(sic), so once its back can do that & will acknowledge your replies.
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    5. Green tick yes or v button on top left of the text input screen. friendly again only for big handed people. Could this have been at bottom right. Is alternate screen for text input touch t9 available? Requested Know how.
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    15. Contacts inaccessible – “Memory Full Error”. No other applications were active at the time of the error. Just unable to reach any of my 3500 contacts through the contacts options & do anything.
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    21. Voice inaudible at other end, when using loudspeaker & especially during calls from moving vehicle.
    22. Camera:
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    b. Erroneous Time stamp on images.
    c.Lens Cover Started to show minor scratch pressure.
    23. Ovi Suite recommends erroneous updates for E.g Maps 3
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    I don't believe we're beta testing the N97 for Nokia. Beta testing suggests it is in a state prior to production. Nokia's track record (at least to me) seems that leading edge phones never reach a stable plateau.
    What I believe happens is the phone is released and remains unstable until they sort of perfect the platform, then a new handset is released bringing a whole new world of bugs and problems and so the cycle continues.
    By the time the phone is suitable for every day use it is, by today's technological stance, ancient and the damage has already been done to the reputation.
    S40 phones seem to fare much better, mainly because it is much more widely used within Nokia. S60 is up against some fine competition from vendors who will rush fixes out.. Nokia only ever seems to rush phones out. It isn't the same and it shows (see their forcast for the next 6 months)
    I honestly would not be surprised if this flagship phone limps on in a partially functional state until it is superceeded by a budget blackberry clone.
    Sad? Very! Am I being cynical, or telling it like it is.
    I'd be real interested to know if any exec at Nokia used the N97 in the weeks before it was released.. Not that I'm a fan, but we all know Stevie J used an iphone long before it was released.. I kind of get the impression they must all use very basic "corporate" s40 handsets and assume their flagship product must be of the same calibre.
    Next release, why not give 100 people N97 for testing, real testing.  It seems Nokias quality assurance team is out of touch with what a $700 handset demands.. ooooh, I gasp in awe at your 30 MB of free capactity when you remove ALL the applications you can. (It's like having a 2TB hard drive in a computer and continuing to boot from a floppy)
    I appreciate there are product time lines to meet, but if Nokia were aiming to compete with the likes of the pre, iphone and the various android handsets (not even mentioning windows mobile) rushing out a phone like this was very wide of the mark. Concept wise, the N97 is a great design.. the implementation of both the hardware and software just isn't going to cut it in todays market.. 
    (but this is what they want? you'll get bored with the handset and buy a replacement! yeay!)

  • A little info about the iSync plugin for the N97

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    This is all the info that I have at the moment. For the time being the only way to sync your data is:
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    2. You can use Memotoo (www.memotoo.com) to sync your data via SyncML. I have used tried it and it works okay. Better than Ovi for sure but it costs.
    3. You can use The Missing Sync by Mark Space (www.markspace.com - currently testing). It does not use the same way to sync via iSync plugins. The Missing Sync sends a plugin to your phone instead. The syncing is very stable and works flawlessly. The only drawback is that the phone plugin is not exactly designed for the N97 and it requires that the N97 needs to be reboot sometimes to sync. Other than this, the operation is flawless and it appears that Mark Space will be able to fix this one problem faster than Nokia will be able to fix their phone.
    Hope this helps...... 
    Show the KUDOS button some love.... Hit that bad boy.... It don't hurt....
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    Yes, once you have MfE, you can sync N97 to Google Calendar and Gmail Contact list. The Mac's iCal app can add the Google Calendar. For Address Book, there are two choices: Access Gmail Contact via LDAP, or do proper synchronization in iSync style (see http://lifehacker.com/393855/enable-google-contact-sync-without-an-iphoneipod-touch).
    MfE is not "installed" by default in the N97, but it is actually there. I need to credit someone on this forum for mentioning it, but I'm afraid I forgot who. The steps are basically thus:
    Basically go to the Menu -> App folder, look for Settings Wizard "Sett. wiz.". Try to setup an email account from there. Don't use your gmail account though (it seems like MfE tries to be smart when it recognizes some email domains and pre-selects some settings for you, but we need to be able to access some options to set on our own). Don't worry about this account, you can always delete it once MfE is configured. At some point of the setup, you will be asked what kind of server. Choose Mail for Exchange. This will trigger Mail for Exchange to be installed.
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    Exchange server: m.google.com
    Secure connection: Yes
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    I did have further trouble though. The sync keeps hanging and then eventually "Invalid Password" error (yah right, after sync halfway they realize my password is wrong... no, something else is mucked up). I eventually deleted my phone data, and re-sync it from Google again, and everything was fine.
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  • The N97, Ovi, and some of my hatred.

    This is what's pi$$es me most off at the moment. There's more, but I can't be arsed to mentally whip myself by reminding myself about it. But this should cover my main points of bloodraging fury. 
    The camera. Why is the production N97 equipped with a camera that would embarrass a prototype?
    It drowns the entire left side in led light when the so called flash is used?
    While I'm at it, why is there not a proper flash? If Sony bloody Ericsson can do it, so can Nokia.
    And then there's the protective cover that isn't protective, but is in fact the freaking opposite of protective.
    Why does my lens have scratches because of the cover? And it isn't just me either.
    Try googling "n97 scratched camera" and see what results you get. 
    There are someone in Nokia who should go back to working in a boot factory.
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    Restarted my computer, yup, still NFG. 
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    Solved!
    Go to Solution.

    The biggest n97 alternative IMO is the Samsung OmniaPRO B7610 It runs on WinMo, but I like WinMo, so....
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    http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_tease_with_symbian_ui_improvements_coming_in_2010-news-1300.php 
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    Me too, me too!! And so you don't think I'm a teenage geek jumping up and down in excitement, I'm a geek in her 50s jumping up and down with excitement.
    I've just been having coffee with a friend who was given an iPhone by his employer as a work phone. He doesn't like it much at all. One of the problems he finds is the mute button is often activated by his ear – I thought that was amusing! On the other hand, my daughter and her husband like their iPhones – but they also have a house full of Apple computers!
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    I've not had mine for 2 weeks or anything, but I love it. The keyboard is perfect for a mobile phone (we use phone keyboards differently to PC keyboards), the touch screen is extremely accurate, it feels good to hold (as in comfortable), was dead easy to upgrade and personalise, and I've had no bugs. Call quality is excellent, my daughter's description was "just like a landline, maybe even better". The speakers (for music) are not 7.1 digital sourround sound, but this isn't a stereo system, it is a phone - and the quality can be improved by fiddling with the equaliser.
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    I've had a few Nokias, so I suppose I am used to the Nokia world, therefore easier for me to adapt.
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    Message Edited by au_n97_user on 18-Jul-2009 07:22 PM

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