The new hard drive is in - now what?
Hi everyone,
Please bear with me. I've suddenly become possessed by the idea of taking apart a Mac and putting new stuff in there. I am a complete novice in this respect, but I figure everyone has to start somewhere, right?
I've got an iBook G3 Clamshell (300 MHz, 288 MB RAM) that I'd like to soup-up. It's currently got a 3 GB (867 MB available) hard drive and is running Panther 10.3.9. Eventually, once I work up the courage, I'm going to undertake the (apparently) monumental task of prying this thing apart and putting a new hard drive in there. I'm hoping to put an 80 GB hard drive in there and put Panther on it.
I've looked around on the Net for a post-hardware installation guide, but I can't seem to find anything that addresses my needs or speaks my limited tech language. If it would be possible for a Mac-savvy person on this board to walk me through the steps immediately following the installation of the hard drive, I'd be very grateful. I know that there are several things that need to be done - I want to make sure that I don't do them in the wrong order!
So, I've (incredibly) taken apart the iBook Clamshell, stuck a new hard drive in there, put everything back together, and I've got my black retail OS X Panther installation CD's ready... now what?
Issues that are of particular concern: formatting the hard drive. How do I do this?
Also: firmware. Do I need to update this? If so, do I do it before or after I format the hard drive? The iBook's current system profiler is quoting me a 4.1.7f4 figure for firmware. Will this change and have to be 'redone' after a new hard drive is put in?
Of course, there are probably a whole bunch of other issues I haven't even considered. What do you do to ensure the smoothest and most efficient installation of the OS?
Again, as I'm very new to this madness, I appreciate any advice or info you guys have to impart. Thank you!
PowerBook G4, iBook G3 Clamshell Mac OS X (10.3.9)
JJJJS,
I suggest you install OS 9 first anyway. By doing that you also ensure you install the OS 9 hardware drivers required for OS 9 native-boot. Your iBook originally shipped with OS 9 and therefore all firmware upgrades are OS 9 installers only. In order to apply a firmware upgrade you have to boot into OS 9 natively. Once you installed OS 9 and updated it to at least 9.2.1 (Mac OS 9: Available Updates) apply the firmware upgrade for your iBook: Mac OS X: Chart of Available Firmware Updates.
Regarding the boot-question: It actually does not matter how you do it. Turning power on will show the ? anyway. All you need is electricity to open the optical drive bay. Restart by presssing CTRL-Eject.
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