The Phenom K9A2 Platinum Cold Boot Loop with Vista 64-Bit

I've posted about this before and I think others have as well. I will describe it again.
You power up the machine, it POSTS successfully and starts loading Vista 64-Bit. You get the green progress bar and see a bunch of disk activity. The screen flickers for a second as the kernel kicks in. Instead of a pointer you are greeted with "NO SIGNAL" and the machine POSTS again!
I've seen this on 2 different K9A2 Platinum boards with 3 different CPUs: 9500, 9600, and now 9850BE.
I did some debugging last night to isolate it but I don't have a complete answer, I do have some extremely interesting news to report. I have Vista 64-bit on my Promise SAS drives in RAID-0. I have XP 64-bit on an IDE drive on the PATA port. When I experience the "cold boot loop"
as described, I go into the BIOS and switch the primary boot to XP 64-bit. I let the system boot, which is always does successfully. Then I restart the computer and use the BIOS to boot off the Promise RAID. Vista 64-bit always (in 7 out of 7 tries) boots the first time no problems
if I first boot XP 64-bit then try booting Vista. Furthermore if I use a tool like AMD Overdrive to push the CPU, voltage, or memory to a high enough speed to freeze the computer, I can cause the cold boot loop in 7 out of 7 attempts as well. Once the cold boot loop begins, the computer rarely boots (if I leave it for ***HOURS*** sometimes it will boot into Vista, after 100 attempts or something).
I'm not entirely sure what this means. It sounds like there's a sticky bit somewhere, and who knows where, that is causing the issue. I would think not in the CPU itself, although I guess that is possible, when I switched from the 9600 to the 9850BE and powered up, I was stuck in the cold boot loop so I think I can discount the CPU. That really just leaves the BIOS in my opinion. Anybody have any interesting comments
about this?

I experienced similar problems this weekend with my rig.
I have two WD Raptor drives, 150GB on the promise controller and SATA DVD on SB600. If I started Vista, it would boot, show POST screen, then I would see the initial Windows green bar, but after a minute with lots of disk activity then the system would reboot.
Next, I would then be promoted to start windows normally, or start with the last known good configuration, sometimes this worked, sometime it did not. This happended for a while, until I managed to install all of the optional and recommended Vista 64bit OS patches and an updated promise raid driver.
Once these were installed, my system had no boot problems at all, so I would make sure your promise driver is up to date and that all the Vista 64bit OS patches, updates etc are installed.

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https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=120556.0
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I experienced similar problems this weekend with my rig.
I have two WD Raptor drives, 150GB on the promise controller and SATA DVD on SB600. If I started Vista, it would boot, show POST screen, then I would see the initial Windows green bar, but after a minute with lots of disk activity then the system would reboot.
Next, I would then be promoted to start windows normally, or start with the last known good configuration, sometimes this worked, sometime it did not. This happended for a while, until I managed to install all of the optional and recommended Vista 64bit OS patches and an updated promise raid driver.
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Hi, recently I have encounter this problem on my K9A2 Platinum that didn't occur before, where after powered off for a few hours, when booting up, there is power to the system but the system won't boot (i.e. no POST or anything). The reset button on my chassis also won't work at that time. And after pressing the power button to shutdown, it won't power up again until I've turn off the mains and wait until the power LED on the mobo to turn off and turning on the mains again.
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Quote from: Henry on 23-March-10, 07:29:17
Did your problem start after you added this mixed batch of RAM? When did you add RAM to what you had 2 years ago? AMD works best when only 2 sticks are used and you have messed that up by adding 2 more sticks of different RAM. Does it work OK if you remove two of the sticks?
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I have post a thread regarding the cold boot problem with SB X-FI Fatalty and OCZ GameXStream 600W SLI power supply combination. Apparently, no one has answer to that . In addition, I have recently RMA'd my psu and received a brand-new unit. The same problem still exists. If the problem is really with the power supply, doesn't matter what kind of the setup I have, I should still have the cold-boot problem. However, it doesn't seem like that. Doesn't matter what kind of cards I put on the motherboard, as long as the SB X-FI Fatalty card is there, there is cold boot problem (even with the setup of cpu, mother, ram, and the sound card only, WITHOUT video card and harddri've). And for other different setup without the SB X-FI Fatalty card, there is no cold boot. The cpu and memory are running at stock speed.
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Greatly appreciate your opinions. Message Edited by White_Hair on 2-02-200604:58 AM
Message Edited by White_Hair on 2-02-200603:22 PM

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th3_r3n3g4d3:
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Concerning the RAID problem I cannot access the SB600 onboard Fastbuild utility as long as the PCI sata controller is plugged in --> I get the "Not enough space to load PCI rom" error message. Without the PCI card I can access Fastbuild and define arrays without a glitch.
This is common problem with boot-roms, the BIOS can't handle multiple of them, only 1 if you use raid.
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Think Bas meant the drivers for the motherboard, not the hard disks. Mostly in America, a drive is a hard disk, while in Europe a driver is a software program for a particular device, for example the network card.
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The onboard sound is disabled. Unfortunately I sold the Seasonic PSU to my friend. The OCZ GameXStream is suppose to be the higher grade psu than Seasonic PSU. Also, the cold boot problem only exists if the sound card is plugged to the motherboard. I tried change different pci slot. It doesn't seem to help the problem. Thanks for the reply Message Edited by White_Hair on 2-02-200606:07 AM

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