The same old problem with temperatures (K8N Neo Platinum)

I have problems since bios v1.0 on my K8N Neo Platinum with temeparutes.
I have installed a Prometeia Mach II St colling unit
I Tested the v1.0 official bios, the temperature was allways -65º full ou idle, what it is impossivel.
In the moment i flashed the bios to v1.2b5, temperature changed to 49º, and I did not move in nothing. The same temperature appears in all bios since v1.2b5. Now I have the v1.4b2 bios
Sorry the Bad English

Here are the instructions to reflash the BIOS for your K8 Neo. I am currently running ver.1.4 with little problems. My only snafu is the LED for my optical mouse stays lit even when system is off, however I have no RAID, Ethernet, onboard sound, or SATA drives. I have just a simple basic system, and I don't overclock. My board is the K8 Neo Platinum socket 754, with an AMD64 3000+. YOU MUST HAVE A FLOPPY DRIVE CONNECTED TO SYSTEM FOR THESE INSTRUCTIONS TO WORK!.
Flashing BIOS on K8 Neo per MSI. READ ALL instructions before starting.
1.Check your BIOS for flashing protection and disable it.
2. Know your board model#. a. Open case and find model# on the board between the PCI slots, or b., boot system and at first DOS screen you will see 'W7030ver1.4122101'. This means you have a MSI model 7030 motherboard with BIOS version 1.4 issued on 12/21/01.
3.Download the Bios that matches your motherboard model and version#.(I believe the Neo Plat had two versions, 1.0 and 1.1). I have 1.0. It will be found between the PCI slots. Create a folder on C: drive labeled 'C:\TEST'
4.EXtract the BIOS file to C:\TEST folder.
5.Create a boot floppy. For XP, at Desktop double click My Computer, right click floppy drive, click Format to format the disk, then click 'Create MS-DOS Boot Disk'.
6. Set boot order to floppy. Hit F11 to select boot device.
7. Insert boot floppy and restart system.
8. At A:\ prompt type in the following,
C:\ (enter)
cd\TEST(enter)
awdfl833c(space)w7030nms.130
The w7030nms.130 is the BIOS file name you downloaded to C:\TEST. Keep in mind you're dealing with DOS file names, so you may need to open a DOS window in Windows, and search C drive for the TEST folder and write down the DOS file name of the BIOS file BEFORE you start the BIOS update.
9. Reboot when prompted. It shouldn't take more than 10 seconds to update the BIOS.

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Problems With MSI K8N Neo Platinum

Posting some probems I have face and wondering if you folks have experience similar problems. I bought 2 and bot hahve same problems (sold both of it). Another friend of mine have also same problems with the board.
1. SATA 1/2 don't work properly. I have detection problems using SATA ports 1/2. The comp will not detect my IDE devices and hang at POST screen. Reboot/reset don't solve the problem. I have to turn off and on to get it to work. Problem is only sovled after switching to SATA 3/4.
2. Network disconnection problem. The NIC will auto disconnect and reconnect back by itself, esp. when under overclocked conditions.
3. Cannot overclock much using DIMM slot-1 esp. when mem is over 230MHz. Must change to slot 2/3. Even so, I do face BSOD stating an USB driver is the cause of the issue.
4. Comp will sometimes unable to reboot at FSB between ~210-240MHz. 250Mz and above seems OK.
Now, I am using Abit KV8 Pro 1.1 and it works fine though. No FSB reboot issues. I am using 1.1 with latest BIOS, thus not AGP/PCI lock issues. Hope MSI will fix those problems mentioned ASAP cause my Abit don't work with mobile A64s. :(

Seriously, I have absolutely no idea. It may be a QC problem, it may be a design problem, its may be BIOS or others. The only thing I know that after I jump ship to Abit KV8 Pro 1.1, all these problems are gone. Only problem is that Abit don't support mobile A64s.
BTe, just another problem or maybe over conservative restrictions. When using DDR333 RAMs, the BIOS will not allow you to manually set it to 400. Thus at 200MHz FSB/HTT, your RAM is stuck at 166MHz. Pretty stupid restriction I have to say.

3 seprate problems with my K8N Neo Platnium (MS-7030)

Hey,
I am having three seprate but very annoying problems with my new K8N Neo Platnuim. Two of the problems are audio related and one has to do with my Sata hard drive.
Audio- First of all my audio is reversed and has been for awhile (annoying for games). I also have had a problem with the drivers. I have a stereo hooked up through an optical cable and with the MSI realtek 97 (newest driver) it doesnt work. So Then I tried a different realtek driver from asus site and my optical cable worked but still reversed sound. I decided to go back to the msi driver cuase they came out with a new one and same old problems (reversed sound and no sound through optical).
SATA- Secondly I purchased a maxtor 200 gig hd and tried to install windows xp on it will leaving my windows intact on my old hard drive. Now whenever i try and boot off my new hard drive it says error operating system even if i format it and this windows works on my old hd.
Anyways sorry for my poor grammer and spelling but i would really appreciate some help on these three subjects.
Thanks

Nobody wants to help me .... I read on a different post that u can only get 5.1 surround sound for movies through optical. You cant even get the sound check to test speakers other then R/L through optical.... This seems rediculus to me!! I have to go through analog if i want surround sound!!! Anyways this still doenst solve my problem of reversed sound or the fact that the MSI realtek driver doesnt work for optical and an asus driver (which i will now reinstall knowing about the fact that my 5.1 surround sound dreams through an optical cable will never happen ) Also my problem with my SATA drive.
P.S. Is it possible to have my audio hook up from the case to the mobo on backwards explaining the reversed sound?
Anyways thanks in advance for anyone who helps me ....

Turn on PC with keyboard [K8N Neo Platinum]

Is it possible to turn your pc on by pressing a button on your keyboard? I have a friend with an old pc (1,5 ghz P4), and he claims that he can turn his pc on that way.
So technically I'm asking you if you know how to do that. Is there a BIOS option in which you can configure the keyboard button on which your computer will respond and go on automatically? That would be very handy.
My motherboard is the K8N Neo Platinum with a 3000+ socket 754. He has an ASUS motherboard.
Thanks.

Check the manual. It should be an option in the bios. I have it in my bios for my board, but when I helped someone put together their machine with a K8N Platinum 2, I didn't see this as an option in that bios. It may be that power on by keyboard and/or mouse is not an option for your board.

Reboot problem with MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum and 250 GB SATA HDD

I'm having a "reboot" problem with my MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum. After turning my system on it will run without any problems, until I reboot. After a reboot it will always hang after the initial windows-bootscreen. The HDD-light will remain on. If, instead of going into Windows XP SP2, I try to enter the BIOS after a reboot (DEL) the system will also hang (blank screen with blinking cursor).
It started doing this after I installed the Maxtor 250 GB SATA disk. Before, I didn't have problems rebooting. If I disconnect the Maxtor drive I can reboot and enter BIOS and Windows each and every time. Reconnecting the Maxtor 250 GB SATA drive will return the reboot problem. I always have to use the power swith to get a working system again. It's not enough to do a hard reset (this has the same effect as rebooting).
Here are the details of my system:
MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum (BIOS 1.B)
Athlon 64 3200+ (Winchester, 2 Ghz, 512 KB cache, stepping DH-D0)
2 x Kingston KVR400X64C25/512, 512 MB, DDR, PC3200 (2,5-3-3-8 T1)
Asus Radeon AX800 Pro (256 MB)
PSU Antec Sonata 380W
HDD Maxtor 80Gb ATA (6Y080P0, Pri Master)
HDD Seagate 250Gb SATA (ST3200822AS)
HDD Maxtor 250Gb SATA (6V250F0 - jumpered in SATA150 mode, the mobo wouldn't work with the drive in SATA300-mode)
Aopen COM5232/AAH Pro CD-Writer ATA (Sec Master)
BenQ DW1640 DVD-Writer ATA (Sec Slave)
P.S. The NVidia IDE-drivers are NOT installed. System is not overclocked.

Thank you for all the replies. Upgrading to the latest Nvidia IDE-drivers did not fix my problem. Moving to other SATA-ports did not help either. Upgrading the mobo's BIOS is not really an option (I'm using one version before the most recent and there isn't anything in the fixlist of the latest BIOS).
Now I've contacted Maxtor for (hopefully) a new firmware.
Quote from: rogueUK on 31-July-06, 16:55:42
insego please use the SEARCH BUTTON
I did use the search function to find other people with similar problems. The reason I started a topic of my own was because of the text you get while joining:
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Do not hijack another persons topic. If you have a similar problem, start your own thread anyway.
Maybe in retrospect I should first have tried the solutions in other topics.

Help with MSI K8N Neo Platinum

HELP please- motherboard MSI K8N Neo PLATINUM: I tried to take away the backplate for the heatsink (on the back side of MB) in order to install the zalman HS beafore i read the forum (use a fan...) and the worst of all happend:
I scratched the back surface!! the scratches are minor, that is 4 scratches half a milimeter long each and not deep but i can see the copper of some lines leading from the memory slots to the processr. My question is : can I try and build the computer on that motherboard anyway or better buy a new one? is there a risk of dammaging other components? oh god what a mistake!

Make sure the new backplate is non-conductive. The backplate for the Hyper 6 has a non-conductive sticker on it. Make sure to keep it on if youve got one... If the lines are exposed even with the back-plate on perhaps you should cover them with some non-conductive (100% non conductive!) tape or something.
Then it doesnt matter if they are exposed, as long as they are ok.
A good tip, which got when i was removing my backplate, is to use a blow dryer to heat it up and the remove it with your fingers. That way youll also notice if it gets to hot
The glue gets sticky at blow drier temps. And pls, dont singe the MB with your blow dryer, you only have to make it hot, and if you cant touch it, how can you remove it with your fingers?
I guess theres no way of telling if you have a serious prob and no way to tell if your cpu will be ok. I guess you could (?) try and start it wíthout anything (cpu, mems) but a PSU, and then, if it (and maybe the PSU) goes "!Pfsssssss!" or "bang!", youll now you will have to replace it.
I put a screwdriver through an asus board once, and it still worked...

Jerky video and sound with my k8n neo platinum

Hi:
I wonder if any of you have had a similar problem.
My system: K8N Neo Platinum Nvidia nForce 3 250 Gb, AMD 64fx 3200+, 1 gig memory Kingston PC 3200, Gigabyte Nvidia GForce Fx 5200 128 AGP video card, HD Seagate ST2120026A 120 gig, WD 40 gig, Toshiba DVD, Lite on DVD-RW. OS XP Pro SP2. Display Samsumg 17 Syncmaster 710V.
The system worked like a champ for about a month, the all of a sudden it started playing videos and audio in a jerke mode, it would play a few frames and then pause for a fraction of a second and then start again.
Please can anyone help?
Thanx in avance

Try uninstalling the graphics card drivers and then installing the latest ones.
Also try defragging hard drive and cleaning unecessary programs from the computer and run windows update.

Help with my K8n Neo Platinum

Hi guys...
Sorry for my english... I'm brazilian.
I have a K8n Neo Platinum and Clawhammer 3000+. I disassembly and cleaned up all entire case/MB. Then i plugged all cables and tried to turn on my computer.The PC does not turn on and the lan's orange led just blink. The power supply and his fan doesnt spin around.
Thanks

What did you use to clean everything and how did you clean it?

Big problem with MSI K8N neo 2!!!

I don't know what it is, but it's a big porblem that many people have with their new K8N Neo 2 Pl motherboard. The problem is that the system freezes and you must push the power button or the reset button.
It happens randomly, when i move my mouse, when i am copying something, when i download something.
I have already updated my bios, with no result. My brother has totally the same specs like me. We bought it at the same time and he has no problems and my pc freezes all the time.
What could it be?
specs:
3800+
POV 6800 Ultra
Twinmos Matched 1Gb PC3200
2 x 160 Gb maxtor Diamandplus 9
Akasa 460 Watt.
Msi what the have you done with my motherboard?

How does that dual power rail thing work? can one device pull from both at the same time? (i.e. the cpu) if not the 14/15 amps from only one of the rails wouldnt be enough, if that is not the problem, it sounds like you got ahold of some dodgy memory. run memtest86+ from a boot floppy, if it clears 10 hours, well start looking for other culprits. it may very well be the motherboard, but the best way to get help is not to go on a forum dedicated to that manufacturer and start cussing at them.

Problems with msi k8n neo-2 and xfx 6800 card

is this card incompatible with the msi k8n neo-2 motherboard?
i ve got this mobo last week and when i tried to install the card to it nothing comes on screen, no beeps or nothing, ive changed the power supply, the card works fine on my old pc with both power supplies (old pc was 2500+ amd with epox 8rda+) i ve tried booting up with nothing else connected on the psu except the card itself, it still doesnt seem to work, the new motherboard works fine with my old radeon 9600 pro.
What can i do?

Thats not what I read (assuming this is the same correct model)
420W double unit
DC O/P Load Max
+5V 42 Amp.
+12V 16 Amp.
+3.3V 28 Amp.
-5V 0.5 Amp.
-12V 0.8 Amp.
+5VSB 2 Amp.
Agreed that one is 420W, but is that it or not?

Problems with my K8N Neo 2 and my 6800GT

I just got my MSI K8N Neoboard with af Winchester 3200,
when Iam playing or do some 3Dmarks.. my suystem hangs/freeze for a couple of seconds... it dont reboot just freeze and then gooing on.
At first I thought i have OC to much ( 400/1100 ) on my 6800GT.. so i tried going down on 375/1000....
i did not freeze so much now.... but still, I can only play for 2 min without failure.
on me old board Asus A7N8X i drove my VGA at 400/1100 without any problems.
I have tried som different drivers 66.93,67.42... without luck...
What is wrong..... is there a problem with this AMD 64 board and a 6800 GT

hi Howdiaudi
welcome to the forum
if youve not seen it 6800 cards-a no-no with nforce boards? may give you some ideas/solutions
there are a number of other threads about your card which you'll find with the search function
hope you get sorted
good luck

4 problems with new K8N Neo 2 Platinum

Just purchased by first MSI board after using Abit for years. Why...I read very good reviews on this board but now I wonder if I made a bad choice.
I have 4 problems with this board.
1. The PCI slots do not recognize any hardware. I have tried my US Robotics modem and Audigy sound card in each slot and nothing.
2. The fire wire port is inoperable. It does not appear in device manager.
3. The second LAN (Gigabit) does not function also. It does not appear in device manager.
4. Won’t boot with my Radeon 9600 XT graphics card. (Might work 1 out of 20 tries if lucky) It works on my old motherboard. Old 7200 works but has a hard time on cold boot.
All of this hardware still works in my old ABIT IC7-G
Here is my setup
Fresh install XP Pro SP2
K8N Neo2 Platinum
AMD Athlon 64 +3500 (Socket 939)
(2) 512MB sticks Corsair TwinX-3200LL Slots 1&2
Radeon 9600XT (Currently using Radeon 7200) as 9600 wont boot
Antec Trueblue Truepower 480W (+5V 38A/+12V 22A/+3.3V 30A)
Board came with bios ver. 1.3 out of box
(2) Western Digital Raptors 36MB each (Raid 0) SATA 3&4
Plextor PX 708A DVD RW
Sent an email to MSI tech support and received the following response:
With regard to your concern, would you please first enter BIOS and Load Optimized Defaults, then save&exit. Also please remove all current drivers for your motherboard and install them over again using the setup CD provided by MSI along with your motherboard? And then please check if in Device Manager, there is any yellow marks, then check again.
If after re-install the drivers the problem still persists, could you please tell us how you connect your HDD to system, and which is your system partition, which can help us analyse the issue. Thanks in advance.
I have done each of these several times with no luck and my reponse to MSI is still unanswered.
Other than all these items......everything else works as I am using this PC to write this call for help.
Any help would be appreciated.

Download the latest Nvidia nForce3 System Drivers from MSI
1)Download to a folder & Unzip the File (Right Click On it)
Also get the Following:-
Realtek Gigabit Ethernet Drivers
Realtek 10/100 LAN Drivers
Realtek ALC Series AC'97 Audio Drivers
2)Open Bios & goto Onboard Devices Ensure the following are enabled :-
MAC Lan (Should be Set to Auto)
OnBoard 1394
OnBoard Giga Lan
AC97 Audio (Enable it for Now & Setup Drivers - Easy to Disable it When SB IN)
3)Install the drivers - Try Right Clicking on the Setup - Properties - Compatability Mode - Select Windows 2000 (Some Drivers Especially NVIDIA Ghave been known just to run but not Install This option should help prevent that)
See where you get through that
Note Once everything is up & running ok you may want to keep your drivers upto date by using the Unified Nvidia System Drivers, as they are usually updated quicker than the MSI ones.

The same old doubt with joins

Hi,
cant get this thing off from me :-)....so please dont get annoyed...
Still the same childish doubt got into me after discussion with a friend of mine....
(and ghosh i dont have the tkprof or such settings with me to test the sequence)...
select a.col1, b.col1,c.col1
from a,b,c
where a.col1 = b.col2
and a.col1 = c.col3
and a.col1 < 10;
how will the parser execute this??
one opinion
A)
1.select all the columns from a,b,c and create complete cross joins between them
2. apply the filter a.col1<10 first as it comes last in where clause ( dont think this is no longer valid for CBO )
3. apply second join condition and filter
4. apply first join condition
5. release the result sets
second opinin
B)
1. select table c and make it driving table (valid for CBO???!!!)
2. select table b and make a cross join with b
3. select table a and first filter a.col1<10 then join with the above cross-joined-resultset based on the join conditions
4. pass the final res
confused!!!??
(Michels has already cleared the doubt in one of the posts , but still I got 2 different opinion from people who are experienced ....)
so just wanted to take a final confirmed opinion thats all
s
Message was edited by:
user571638

First off:
2. apply the filter a.col1<10 first as it comes last in where clause ( dont think this is no longer valid for CBO )
This was never valid. Even the RBO had more sense than to just work blindly through the WHERE predicates in a fixed order.
Also,
> 5. release the result sets
is not really right - if possible it will begin to stream rows back to you before it has fetched them all, whereas the above description makes it look as though it gathers all the results up in some temporary store before passing them all back at once.
Regarding the optimizer's joining strategy, any permutation and ordering is possible including cross joins, although it has various strategies that mean it does not have to work through every conceivable permutation. It will try various approaches, calculate their costs, and pick the one it thinks is going to be most efficient.

The same old problems and no supp

I can't believe that in the past 5 years the support is as bad as ever! I'm stlill getting the same error in software for the Audigy 2 zs as I did for the 5. soundblaster li've card. Don't your employees give a **bleep**? Obviously not! I'm sure I won't be buying one of these pathetic cards again! (Good hardware, shame about the software and the support!) Shame on you Creative! Disgusting, pathetic support. Don't you have any competent s/w engineers left? I guess QUALITY is a word that escapes you! Hints -. Supply decent, comprehensi've, support. 2. Supply drivers that actually work. 3. Gi've INFORMATIVE error messages when they don't. 4. Distribute s/w that actually shuts the Feff'ing systems down properly!!!

Agree.
But maybe Creative have no money to do that (sorry, late April fool).
Ahem, Creative definitvely need to better normalize its software production and to hear for customers needs : man, I never used my RM500 because it won't do what it was expected correctly; and I'm always waiting wavestudio to support WAVE_EXTENSIBLE as mediasource can (will begin to see how it works and build my own wave editor if I really have to...). Oh! and what about the stand-alone package? it's here, but never it was officialised!

Slow Boot problem with New K8N Neo4 Platinum HELP

Hello,
I just set up my new rig, the system specs are..
amd64 3500+
K8N Neo4 Platinum PCI-E (non SLI)
2x80gb SATA (insockets 5 and 6) Silicon
2x512 ram generic
BFG 6800 Ultra OC
antec 550 truepower
The entire install went well.. It zipped through windows98... But when it tired to Boot windows98.. it went really really slow.. The animation bar at the bottom was chugging.. like lagging.. and took well over 10 minutes to fully load..
I check RAM was not it.. re-connected.. was not it.. new SATA cables.. no idea any help would do.. getting impatient and tired =O must get it up tonight!

Don't know if you or many people have seen this it's appeared over the last few days K8N Neo4 Platinum - NOTE: NVIDIA nForce 3/4 Series board DO NOT support Windows® 98/ME
There are people running 98 but my own understanding was that 98 could only use a sata drive as a data drive & could not be installed on a sata drive. Where have you installed it ???
see Win 98SE IDE problem.... Has anyone worked it out yet?
luck

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