The skype chat i had with peterT

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People might be intrested
Their some personal chatter going on also.
Anyway in chat was promised update on situation but nothing ever came.
Now we still have no update on situation so i figure out i post chat log here to show on which side peterT is.
My name being anonymous obviously changed with my name with word to swap my name.
anyway chat log below.
Maybe now we get answer.
[15-3-2013 01:42:00] Peter Tat: Hello Anonymous, I'd like to add you as a contact.
PeterT
[15-3-2013 01:42:18] Anonymous: Anonymous heeft contactdetails gedeeld met Peter Tat.
[15-3-2013 01:42:27] Peter Tat: Hello Frank
[15-3-2013 01:42:28] Anonymous: Hey their
[15-3-2013 01:43:05] Anonymous: thought was strange btw but i noticed something if i have more tabs open in background in the stock browser app for example, then i have more free ram when outside browser
[15-3-2013 01:43:11] Peter Tat: I'm downloading Chrome browser right now
[15-3-2013 01:43:27] Anonymous: their chrome beta browser asswell thats even more likely to cause shutdowns
[15-3-2013 01:43:48] Anonymous: because chrome beta is much faster responds much better probably take more usage also
[15-3-2013 01:44:20] Peter Tat: I don't see the beta on my play store
[15-3-2013 01:44:27] Anonymous: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.chrome.beta
[15-3-2013 01:44:31] Anonymous: thats the link
[15-3-2013 01:44:32] Peter Tat: i'm installing the right from March 8th 203
[15-3-2013 01:44:41] Anonymous: its somehow hidden when i manuely search it maybe beta ending soon
[15-3-2013 01:45:36] Anonymous: i think flash it self uses lot ram on top with video play thru flash player eats most ram probably, btw heared some guy have these shutdowns while downloading files also.
[15-3-2013 01:46:04] Anonymous: i think playing 1 video will just stay in ram all the time then downloading few files will keep adding up till it crashes.
[15-3-2013 01:46:16] Peter Tat: nope
[15-3-2013 01:46:23] Peter Tat: must likely due to a region issue
[15-3-2013 01:46:28] Peter Tat: for the beta version
[15-3-2013 01:46:29] Anonymous: one guy even mentioned having these issues lot more when having wifi enabled but that could just be due more trafic
[15-3-2013 01:46:37] Anonymous: chrome beta ?
[15-3-2013 01:46:44] Anonymous: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.chrome.beta can you see this link ?
[15-3-2013 01:47:18] Peter Tat: i'll just test with the official version
[15-3-2013 01:47:22] Anonymous: if log in same acount as the tablet is logged into then can send a install command from pc for example to tablet
[15-3-2013 01:48:00] Anonymous: quick ics browser would tbh be best you can set an option to desktop then will always request desktop site
[15-3-2013 01:48:24] Peter Tat: ok
[15-3-2013 01:48:26] Anonymous: anyway vimeo.com youtube.com dumpert.com gametrailers.com all sites can test on
[15-3-2013 01:48:33] Peter Tat: lets try with the ICS browser then
[15-3-2013 01:48:39] Anonymous: i think knowning its memory issue makes testing lot easy'r
[15-3-2013 01:48:52] Anonymous: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.virifi.android.quickbrowser&feature=search_result#...
[15-3-2013 01:48:55] Peter Tat: do you want me to open a tab for each one?
[15-3-2013 01:48:57] Anonymous: thats the link
[15-3-2013 01:49:04] Anonymous: yeah
[15-3-2013 01:49:09] Anonymous: guess thats fine
[15-3-2013 01:49:20] Peter Tat: wait
[15-3-2013 01:49:28] Peter Tat: can we try with the preinstall browser?
[15-3-2013 01:49:31] Anonymous: tablet should remain stable even if have 100 tabs open the other 99 tabs should be cached anyway
[15-3-2013 01:49:35] Anonymous: the stock sony app ?
[15-3-2013 01:49:40] Peter Tat: yup
[15-3-2013 01:49:42] Anonymous: yeah just request desktop site tough
[15-3-2013 01:49:53] Peter Tat: ok
[15-3-2013 01:50:03] Peter Tat: let me switch to desktop view on the stock browser
[15-3-2013 01:50:14] Anonymous: don't use the mobile site if it asks what app to use keep clicking browser like on youtube get app in list youtube.
[15-3-2013 01:50:25] Anonymous: you can just play video thru flash in youtube for example
[15-3-2013 01:51:12] Anonymous: anyway i think the trick is to just play video let it buffer quite a bit then start new video let it buffer a bit then repeat that few times thru different sites and even different video players
[15-3-2013 01:51:43] Anonymous: as for playing video's on stock apps or third party i think they should be big like least 10 minuts
[15-3-2013 01:54:10] Anonymous: already re produced error loading 1 video btw
[15-3-2013 01:54:16] Anonymous: can turn on webcam show you
[15-3-2013 01:54:35] *** Gesprek met Peter Tat ***
[15-3-2013 01:55:05] Anonymous: all blocky and repeating
[15-3-2013 01:55:12] Anonymous: like same last 10 frames
[15-3-2013 01:56:14] Anonymous: hate this so much
[15-3-2013 01:56:39] *** Gesprek beëindigd, duur 02:03 ***
[15-3-2013 01:56:51] Anonymous: that was just 1 youtube vid but ofc normaly i don't do this from browser
[15-3-2013 01:57:16] Anonymous: but other sites don't have an app or html5 player so disabling flash ain't always a option
[15-3-2013 01:57:53] Anonymous: oh lemme correct that was 2 video's if played total
[15-3-2013 01:58:29] Peter Tat: still trying to repro
[15-3-2013 01:58:39] Anonymous: played a little off this video http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/6luwrm/bioshock-infinite-false-shepherd-trailer
And then http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQxZSiaDZ6g
[15-3-2013 01:58:56] Anonymous: you did re produce already right on xperia tablet s aka trying re produce on tablet s1 ?
[15-3-2013 01:59:14] Peter Tat: yes I was able to reproduce it on the xperia tablet
[15-3-2013 01:59:23] Anonymous: i think downloading lot files might be key
[15-3-2013 01:59:27] Peter Tat: I fast forward , rewind, etc
[15-3-2013 01:59:42] Anonymous: yeah don't even have to do that btw to re produce it i figured out now
[15-3-2013 01:59:46] Peter Tat: I had no luck on the Tablet S
[15-3-2013 02:00:00] Anonymous: just takes buffering 1 full lengty vid after that sticks to ram like glue no way to clear it
[15-3-2013 02:00:15] Anonymous: Just thinking
[15-3-2013 02:00:21] Anonymous: in data usage
[15-3-2013 02:00:28] Anonymous: let people screenshot their data usage
[15-3-2013 02:00:42] Anonymous: that should give clear idea maybe whats causing this
[15-3-2013 02:00:51] Anonymous: the app with highest data usage likely have issues
[15-3-2013 02:01:08] Anonymous: Or well could be
[15-3-2013 02:01:21] Anonymous: doubt apps with low data usage are causing it
[15-3-2013 02:01:50] Anonymous: Not been playing video's at all lately my data usage is facebook 10 gb lol 2e beam app 4.21gb
[15-3-2013 02:02:17] Peter Tat: how long did you play the video before the issue occurs?
[15-3-2013 02:02:27] Anonymous: like 2 3 minuts
[15-3-2013 02:02:48] Anonymous: i am on 5GHZ wifi network so video downloads with 40 Mbit per sec
[15-3-2013 02:03:13] Anonymous: so ram fills up lot faster with faster internet causing issue to be more common probably
[15-3-2013 02:03:31] Peter Tat: s1 should be 2.4
[15-3-2013 02:03:39] Anonymous: y
[15-3-2013 02:04:21] Anonymous: xperia tablet s has 5g i did't even known i was happy tough when i found out could get my netgear router out again that was collecting dust
[15-3-2013 02:05:58] Anonymous: even google maps btw could cause a shutdown i think that acces demuxer also
[15-3-2013 02:06:19] Anonymous: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xtralogic.android.logcollector&feature=search_resu...
[15-3-2013 02:06:29] Anonymous: can try that app use tablet like normaly would with heavy usage etc
[15-3-2013 02:06:31] Anonymous: then send a log
[15-3-2013 02:06:45] Anonymous: error might pop in log giving better understanding
[15-3-2013 02:07:07] Anonymous: if did't find out about demuxer i would never understand why every video player app had issues
[15-3-2013 02:08:53] Anonymous: is memory management programmed btw per category btw like browser video player apps games etc ?
[15-3-2013 02:09:17] Peter Tat: its program into the board
[15-3-2013 02:09:24] Peter Tat: think of it as the BIOS
[15-3-2013 02:09:32] Peter Tat: and the OS interacts with it
[15-3-2013 02:09:45] Anonymous: i'm not a programmer btw do have verry good technical insight tough
[15-3-2013 02:09:52] Anonymous: yeah well bios can be programmed
[15-3-2013 02:10:15] Anonymous: even like a router
[15-3-2013 02:10:37] Anonymous: i love bricking my netgrear router done this mil times then unbrick it messing with custom firmware
[15-3-2013 02:10:48] Anonymous: stock is most stable tough i found out since got xperia tablet s
[15-3-2013 02:10:59] Peter Tat: I am not a low level programmer
[15-3-2013 02:11:04] Anonymous: my advanced wifi lock will disable wifi if loses signal
[15-3-2013 02:11:06] Peter Tat: i do mostly powershell
[15-3-2013 02:11:07] Anonymous: yeah understood that
[15-3-2013 02:11:22] Anonymous: or hmmm maybe i don't
[15-3-2013 02:11:36] Anonymous: but i guess not respondsible for jelly bean
[15-3-2013 02:11:44] Anonymous: else i would be certain it would come out by now
[15-3-2013 02:11:47] Peter Tat: low level programming is like C or C++
[15-3-2013 02:11:56] Peter Tat: Android developers are Java programmers
[15-3-2013 02:12:12] Peter Tat: Java is not low level
[15-3-2013 02:12:19] Peter Tat: it is more on the surface of programming
[15-3-2013 02:12:35] Peter Tat: kind of like C# but C# is for Windows base
[15-3-2013 02:12:45] Anonymous: hardcore stuff making apps programming set off rules etc optimisations
[15-3-2013 02:12:58] Anonymous: i wish i learned programming languige
[15-3-2013 02:13:12] Anonymous: but i had horrible parrents that never send me to proper school
[15-3-2013 02:13:38] Peter Tat: you can learn online
[15-3-2013 02:13:39] Peter Tat: for free
[15-3-2013 02:13:44] Anonymous: yeah i known
[15-3-2013 02:13:53] Anonymous: Just don't have motivation anymore
[15-3-2013 02:13:56] Anonymous: i'm 28 years old
[15-3-2013 02:14:10] Anonymous: i quit school at age 12 bassicly actualy if never had any decent school at all
[15-3-2013 02:14:28] Anonymous: bullied on school neglected and abused at home etc horrible childhood
[15-3-2013 02:14:36] Peter Tat: i am sorry to hear that
[15-3-2013 02:14:46] Anonymous: while having autism learning to become more social with squeeker voice imposible >_<
[15-3-2013 02:15:05] Peter Tat: you can do anything you put your mind into it
[15-3-2013 02:15:11] Peter Tat: don't let anyone tell you otherwise
[15-3-2013 02:15:12] Anonymous: extreme bullie'ng even like throwing some one right in front off a truck thats aproaching or etc
[15-3-2013 02:15:28] Anonymous: yeah well i need little help from outside with problems i just can't deal with atm
[15-3-2013 02:15:40] Anonymous: structure etc and motivation
[15-3-2013 02:16:01] Anonymous: motivation can be easy if i can make it intrest me more
[15-3-2013 02:17:18] Anonymous: find strange btw now actualy that the tablet s1 have this issue just as much but way more different.
[15-3-2013 02:17:22] Anonymous: its bassicly the same firmware
[15-3-2013 02:18:08] Peter Tat: different hardware
[15-3-2013 02:18:15] Anonymous: actualy its about same
[15-3-2013 02:18:20] Anonymous: just dual core
[15-3-2013 02:18:24] Anonymous: nvidia tegra 2
[15-3-2013 02:18:30] Anonymous: xperia tablet is is nvidia tegra3
[15-3-2013 02:18:49] Anonymous: google nexus 7 is also nvidia tegra3 i think sony is kindy lucky that google picked same chipset
[15-3-2013 02:18:55] Peter Tat: wifi card is different as well
[15-3-2013 02:19:00] Anonymous: save's lot time
[15-3-2013 02:19:06] Anonymous: minor stuff
[15-3-2013 02:20:00] Peter Tat: hm.
[15-3-2013 02:20:07] Peter Tat: still didn't repro
[15-3-2013 02:20:35] Anonymous: took me like 2 hours first time when i tryit re produce
[15-3-2013 02:20:57] Anonymous: like their some cache that needs to be build up or something that can't be cleared
[15-3-2013 02:21:21] Anonymous: normaly their is app cache their is an app that clears all app cache at once, but never helped me
[15-3-2013 02:21:24] Peter Tat: I know my OS development team was able to reproduce the issue
[15-3-2013 02:21:31] Peter Tat: but i'm waiting for their steps
[15-3-2013 02:21:41] Peter Tat: they inform me that the repro is super low
[15-3-2013 02:21:49] Anonymous: i think sony has stabbed them self in the foot releasing android 4.0.3 for tablet s1
[15-3-2013 02:21:49] Peter Tat: like rare low
[15-3-2013 02:22:13] Anonymous: think jelly bean will come out personaly for tablet s1
[15-3-2013 02:22:25] Peter Tat: I am fighting for it right now
[15-3-2013 02:22:33] Anonymous: its just takes more time probably if they have to start all over again with just android 4.0.4 update that might also fix it
[15-3-2013 02:22:42] Peter Tat: but I can't make any promise at this moment
[15-3-2013 02:23:19] Anonymous: if they can't fix these issues even on xperia tablet s for some reason hope sony do step up program
[15-3-2013 02:23:30] Anonymous: i just like the universal remote
[15-3-2013 02:23:35] Peter Tat: it will be fix for the xperia tablet
[15-3-2013 02:23:47] Anonymous: otherwise i end up buying a nexus 7 for normal use xperia tablet s will be just expansive remote
[15-3-2013 02:23:49] Peter Tat: it was already confirm by our Qality Assurance team
[15-3-2013 02:23:54] Anonymous: yeah they say but i kindy am worried
[15-3-2013 02:24:06] Anonymous: like issue become less common but will still exist
[15-3-2013 02:24:19] Anonymous: if it happends like maybe once a month i can life with anything more is to much
[15-3-2013 02:24:33] Anonymous: if got a pc thats 100% rock stable overclocked watercooled
[15-3-2013 02:24:44] Anonymous: not a single random freeze bsod in like 4-5 years
[15-3-2013 02:25:11] Anonymous: kindy issues i run into are usualy os related and i always fix them my self.
[15-3-2013 02:25:43] Anonymous: its just easy to back track find cause and fix asuming you're also respondsable for that error
[15-3-2013 02:25:51] Anonymous: else just takes little bit longer
[15-3-2013 02:25:58] Anonymous: some google research usualy is easy
[15-3-2013 02:26:17] Peter Tat: PC fix is must easier...
[15-3-2013 02:26:21] Peter Tat: than Android
[15-3-2013 02:26:27] Peter Tat: at least from my experience
[15-3-2013 02:26:59] Anonymous: i think android is easy to asuming their no firmware issues
[15-3-2013 02:27:14] Anonymous: If an app is causing problems android log will tell
[15-3-2013 02:27:41] Anonymous: i wish i could manage to run java applet on my tablet btw
[15-3-2013 02:27:53] Anonymous: i have jsscreenfix applet that unstuck pixels but can't make it run lol
[15-3-2013 02:28:21] Anonymous: recording a video with that don't work either it needs to be uncrompressed or it will have lot corrupt blocks
[15-3-2013 02:28:26] Anonymous: not the one that caused by tablet btw
[15-3-2013 02:28:31] Anonymous: just be re encoding
[15-3-2013 02:28:50] Peter Tat: I have meeting coming up
[15-3-2013 02:28:54] Anonymous: oke
[15-3-2013 02:28:54] Peter Tat: i have a meeting coming up
[15-3-2013 02:29:11] Peter Tat: i will also have a meeting with my OS dev team on Wednesday next week
[15-3-2013 02:29:21] Peter Tat: I will try to get as much info from them for the S1
[15-3-2013 02:29:39] Peter Tat: I will also hammer on the Jelly Bean release to make sure it resolve the Xperia shut down issue
[15-3-2013 02:29:43] Peter Tat: and yes you are right
[15-3-2013 02:29:48] Peter Tat: we should be faster on the OS release
[15-3-2013 02:29:50] Anonymous: They should release quick fix asap if jelly bean indeed can't be released sooner
[15-3-2013 02:29:56] Peter Tat: I am trying to fix this process
[15-3-2013 02:30:04] Peter Tat: it is mostly due to a resource issue
[15-3-2013 02:30:09] Anonymous: the tablet is great has lot potential
[15-3-2013 02:30:20] Anonymous: the tablet z is also great but missed oppurtunity >_>
[15-3-2013 02:30:30] Anonymous: no glass back not as sturdy lol
[15-3-2013 02:30:39] Peter Tat: the problem is that there are less engineers
[15-3-2013 02:30:42] Peter Tat: but more products
[15-3-2013 02:30:43] Anonymous: saw tweakers.net video 1 thumb on corner it would bend easy with like no force
[15-3-2013 02:30:48] Peter Tat: we're all working 12 hours a day or more
[15-3-2013 02:30:49] Anonymous: agree
[15-3-2013 02:30:52] Anonymous: i noticed that
[15-3-2013 02:31:10] Anonymous: even cheap budget phone with android 4.1 but tablets still all are on ics wtf lol
[15-3-2013 02:31:13] Peter Tat: i'll update to after my converstation with the OS dev team
[15-3-2013 02:31:19] Peter Tat: i know
[15-3-2013 02:31:19] Anonymous: thats great
[15-3-2013 02:31:28] Peter Tat: phone and tablet OS should the same time
[15-3-2013 02:31:33] Peter Tat: and early
[15-3-2013 02:31:49] Anonymous: xperia z is to expansive atm if it drops to 400€ i defiantly buy considering it have no issues
[15-3-2013 02:32:19] Anonymous: i have cheap alcatel smartphone now with gingerbread which actualy play video's without ever crashing
[15-3-2013 02:32:28] Peter Tat: ok frank. i'll talk to you soon
[15-3-2013 02:32:29] Anonymous: 45€ phone
[15-3-2013 02:32:32] Peter Tat: thank you for trying to help out
[15-3-2013 02:32:38] Anonymous: np
[15-3-2013 02:36:49] Anonymous: you did good job btw as community manager btw
[15-3-2013 02:37:12] Anonymous: i thought you re created issue your self but to get the devs to re produce it
[15-3-2013 02:37:35] Peter Tat: no
[15-3-2013 02:37:50] Peter Tat: the devs reproduce the issue on the s1 but i think it was like 1/10000
[15-3-2013 02:37:52] Peter Tat: time or so
[15-3-2013 02:38:11] Peter Tat: i am trying to prove to our OS team that the customer sees this issue more frequently
[15-3-2013 02:38:13] Anonymous: did devs re produce xperia tablet s issues ?
[15-3-2013 02:38:16] Peter Tat: yes
[15-3-2013 02:38:28] Peter Tat: they can reproduce the Xperia Tablet very easy
[15-3-2013 02:38:37] Anonymous: they should add functionality that helps them out btw maybe
[15-3-2013 02:38:38] Peter Tat: like 8/10 times
[15-3-2013 02:38:43] Anonymous: that send logs once in a while to them
[15-3-2013 02:38:52] Anonymous: error logs etc so they can see what kindy issues customers have
[15-3-2013 02:38:56] Peter Tat: i'll check with them
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Answer 1

It shows Peter's doing its jobs properly.
Anyway there is no more communication from Sony since awihle. If you can have any news.
Anyway good job Zero!