There was a problem completing the backup - help.

Does anyone know why my iphone 4 continues to display 'there was a problem completing the backup, please try again later.'
My ipad2 backs up to the cloud perfectly which I updated to ios5 on 13th October. I have only used 300 megs so far.
Iphone was updated to ios5 on the 12th October. I have asked the iphone only to backup minimal data to rule out lack of space.
I have synced to itunes numerous times. I will attempt to leave it plugged in tonight and connected to wifi to see if it does it automatically,
but it did not do this last night when the ipad2 managed to do it. Basically, when I click back up now within the iphone it displays the
'there was a problem completing the backup, please try again later.' error after 10 seconds or so. Is it server overload still at this point or
what? Anyone got any ideas? Thanks

Stll no backup even after a night with iphone plugged in, locked and connected to wifi. Anyone got any thoughts on the matter.

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