Thermalright XP-120 and NEO2-FIS2R

Anyone using the Thermalright XP-120 heatsink with the NEO2-FIS2r mobo?

my friend does and he finds it good

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Thermalright XP-120 and neo2 platinum

Has anyone tried to use this heatsink with a "platinum" series motherboard?
I have a neo2-pfs platinum.
I emailed thermalright about the fit of the heatsink and got this response:
"XP-120 will fit your motherboard if you can tilt 4 capacitors away from CPU socket to clear the heatpipes loops. the underside of XP-120 fin will clear up to 38mm tall chipset cooler."
Does anyone know if this height is tall enough to clear the stock passive northbridge heatsink on a platinum series?
I guess I could always get a shorter cooler for the northbridge.

the way the caps are laid out, the tilting is VERY minor, so I don't believe this will be much of a problem.
I don't think it will be able to clear my northbridge heatsink though. May have to replace it with a shorter passive cooler. (which will be ok because it will get plenty of air from the fan on top of the xp-120)
here's a link to this cooler. anyone thought about it for a platinum series board?
http://www.systemcooling.com/thermalright_xp120-01.html

865PE Neo2-FIS2R and Geil memory problem

With 512MB (2x256) of Corsair XMS 3700, the system is perfectly stable (runs 24/7 crunching for UD, also have done Prime95 torture test).
With 1-GB (2x512) of Geil PC4000 Ultra Platinum, the system is very unstable. It usually won't even boot fully into Windows without a BSOD (which vary) or if it does get into Windows it crashed soon thereafter.
If I put the Corsair memory back in (like I have them right now, to be able to use the system to post this message), the system is back to 100% stable, so it seems to be entirely a memory-related problem.
MSI 865PE Neo2-FIS2R (MS-6728)
Intel P4 2.4C 800FSB (HT enabled) @ 3.19-GHz
AVC Sunflower 2 HSF
420-W PS
Windows XP Pro SP1a
BIOS settings:
Dynamic OC Disabled
Performance mode Slow
DRAM Freq 266
CPU Bus 266
DDR Clock 354
AGP/PCI 67/34
CPU vCore 1.6000
DDR volts 2.70
AGP volts 1.50
SPD Disabled
3-4-4-8, 4 burst
Have run MemTest standard test on the Geil modules individually and as a pair, and have tried different slots. Testing thus far shows no errors when each module is installed separately, but when used in a pair there are sometimes errors shown.
Have tried the modules in slots 1,3 and slots 2,4 with no difference.
Have tried setting DDR voltage from 2.70 up to 2.85v for the Geil (approved up to 2.9v) with no apparent change in stability.
Have tried changing Spread Spectrum setting between enabled and disabled. Disabled seems to be better, but problem remains.
Have tried using SPD disabled with settings listed above, and SPD enabled (which sets timings at 2.5-4-4-8,8).
Edit: I'd asked for advice, but then realized that the very limited timeframe in which I could return the Geil would expire if I waited beyond business hours today. So I've RMA'd the Geil and have ordered a 1-GB Corsair TwinX XMS 3700 pack instead.

I've had similar problems to you but with Corsair TwinX LL's and if you read back a month in this forum you will see others have also with various memories on the 865 FISR.
The fix I found was Kingston memory but others have had problems with Kingston. There was a thread running a week or two ago attempting to document successful memory mobo combinations.
Bottom line, stick with what works on your mobo until MSI fix the incompatability/instability issues.

MSI K8NGM-V and Thermalright XP-120

Does anyone know if thers are compatility issues between the MSI K8NGM-V mainboard and Thermalright XP-120 CPU cooler?
If issues exist, are these issues resolved with the Thermalright XP-90 or SI-120?
Thanks in advance.
/DeCay

MSI K8NGM-V is not a Via board so please do not continue the topic there. I will move it...
Second; If you have one Dimm that is DDR400 and another that is DDR333 then both Dimms will run at the slowest common speed which in this case is DDR333. You really should not max RAM anyways.
Just a point of info... The MB is not a problem for memory timings anyways. The memory controller is not on the MB in a K8 based system. It is inside of the CPU and you have to conform to the CPU's RAM controller for what you may or may not use for RAM. There are many levels of memory controllers built into the various K8 CPU's so you should get familiar with what your CPU that you have will and won't do for RAM. That will help answer some of your questions.

FX-55 and NEO2-FIR and poor performance

I just upgraded froma NEO-FIS2R using a Athlon 64 3200+ to a NEO2-FIR and a FX-55.
I got it all working - only after finding out that the Promise controller isn't compatiible with the old Promise controller on the NEO2-FIR.
First thing I did was do some benching - I spent over $1000 for the FX-55 and NEO2-FIR and was hoping to see some significant performance improvement.
Unfortuneately I don't see it. I've loaded the Performance options in the BIOS, made sure that DRAM settings were SPD (I have Mushkin Black LevelII DDR3500 matched dimms - supposed to do 2-2-2-5)
Any advice at all? I'm getting less than 5000 in 3DMark05 - and other like systems are over 6000.
If I go too agressive on memory timing the system is really unstable.
Are there known issues with the FX-55 and the NEO2-FIR? Are there any rec'ds?
Thanks.
K8T NEO2-FIR - 3.2 AMI BIOS
AMD Athlon FX-55 (2600 - no overclocking at all)
2X Mushkin 512MB PC3500 CL2 - Black Hi Perf Level II
ThermalRight XP-120 with Thermaltake A2018 (38.6~93.7CFM - 17dBA~46.5dBA)
PC Power and Cooling Turbo Cool 510w Deluxe
+5V @ 40A (1%)
+12V @ 34A, 38A pk (1%)
+3.3V @ 30A (1%)
-5V @ 0.3A (5%)
-12V @ 2A (5%)
Ripple: 1%
power
ATI RADEON X800 XT Platinum Edition
Creative Labs: Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS
2X Western Digital SATA Raptor 74GB 10,000RPM - RAID0 onboard VIA8237 SATA
2X Western Digital SATA CaviarSE 120GB 7200RPM - RAID0 onboard Promise 20579 SATA
Plextor 708/A CD-R/W DVD+-/R RW (1.07 firmware)
Windows XP SP2

Have you run any program to test the cpu at 100% like super PI or the like?
People just dont understand 3Dmark is a Graphics benchmark and a synthetic one at that. CPU tests in 3dmark account for so little and there are so many variables that can affect the test like drivers, OS, BIOS settings, programs in the background that I dont consider 3dmark a worthy benchmark for machine power except for GPU performance.
Use something else like SUper PI, or Sandra, to see how much Horseporwer your machine really has.
Jorge

HELP! Can't get WINXP or WIN ME installed on Neo2-FIS2R

Dear all,
Last weekend I've been trying too many hours to get WINXP PRO (Dutch version) installed on my new Mobo. I just can’t get it installed.
Installation from CD is starting however after loading some drivers (and offering F6 to install extra scsi/raid drivers, F2 for recovery) screen goes black and in far upper left corner blinking cursor appears.
Nothing happens anymore.
Tried the same with WIN ME (also dutch version). This one reboots just before I’ve to enter serial number (= screen were progress indicator is moving from 0-100%)
Does anybody please advise/help. If you need more info, please ask. Your help will highly been appreciated!
My system specs:
865PE Neo2-FIS2R
BIOS V1.2 (may 28th 2003)
Intel 3GHz, 800 FSB, HT
2x 512 MB, 400 MHz, cl-3, PC3200U (Elixir)
Hercules (ATI) 64 MB 8500 DV All in wonder
1x Maxtor 60 GB UATA 133
2x Maxtor 160 GB SATA
Samsunng combo CDRW/DVD-ROM

Please do not upgrade the Bios.. that is not the problem.
Set the Bios to "Load Bios default settings" and insure all your
devices, hard drive, cd rom and 3 1/2 drive all are recognized first
then proceed to doing your install
865PE Neo2-FIS2R [GbE LAN, IEEE 1394, Serial ATA(SB),
Ultra/Serial ATA RAID (Promise) Bios 1.3
Intel Pentium 4 2.8 GHZ Retail
Crucial 256MB DDR PC3200 (1 Channel A & 1 Channel B)
ATI ALL-IN-WONDER® RADEON™ 7500 64MB
Maxotor 120 gig S-ATA
MSI CD-R/RW 52-M
Antec Sonata Silent 380 watt PSU
Windows XP with current SP and updates
Hyperthreading Technology enabled
USR 56K internal modem
Logitech Cordless Access Duo keyboard & mouse

MS-7025 & Thermalright XP-120

Anyone out there get the Thermalright XP-120 heatdink to fit aon the Neo2 Platimum (MS-7025)? I know the Thermalright web site says it wont fit, but i have a feeling it will.
Thanks in advance.

I've been puzzling over this one as well, seems like quite a few people have fitted it, some had to bend capacitors, others didn't. Common opinion I came across was that there are two versions of the board, one has the clearance and the other doesn't, although it also depends on which way you direct the heatpipes. Anyway, my XP-120 just arrived this morning, so it's on the list of things to do over the next few days. Hopefully it'll go on, and be worth it. It's my last attempt to get 3000MHz out of this FX-55, without pumping various cold liquids around my system, not really into that.

Bios update 865PE Neo2 Fis2R

Just setup new system
865PE Neo2 Fis2R, 2.8 P4 retail with fan: Crucial PC3200
512: Maxtor 120 Diamond Max Plus SATA: ATI All in Wonder
7500 64MB: Msi CR52-M
Bios string is 1.00.1030.26
I want to go to version 4. I think this is reasonable!
First time in setup of Bios I noticed the cpu temperature
was 52 C. What is normall range of operation??
I thought over 60 C was cause for concern and would damage the processor!!
I would like to over clock..
thanks, so far looks like a good system. 8)

Msipcfixer911,
Yes it is reasonable to want the latest bios for your new motherboard.
But 1.4 is not the best bios. I would advise you to do some research before upgrading.
As I see it your only choise is between 1.3 and beta 1.52 in known working bios to date.
Also your cpu temp should drop once you upgrade.
There is a lot of informative reading in this forum as any
questions you may have about you motherboard have most likly already been asked and anwsered.

865PE Neo2 -FIS2R Problems

I purchased a brand new MSI 865PE Neo2-FISR along with a P4 2.4C(OEM), a Thermaltake Spark 5c cooler and a Corsair XMS Twinpack(TWINX512-3200C2PT) of DDR400 memory.
The install went fine, the system booted and ran very well right out of the box. I installed the Live Update program from MSI and it updated itself. I then used that utility to generate a BIOS flash/recovery disk to update the bios from 1.10 to 1.30. The update worked fine and I rebooted the machine into Windows XP with no problems.
I then decided to do some tweaking in the new 1.3 BIOS. After several unsuccessful memory/Dynamic Overclocking settings the system refused to boot. I tried the Clear CMOS jumper to reset the defaults but it still would not boot. I checked the D-Bracket, 3 red 1 green(lower right) which indicates that the video card is not initializing. I attempted reseating the video card (a PNY Geforce4 TI4200) with no luck, I then replaced that card with a GeForce4 MX440 SE with no luck. I tried four other video cards, 2 AGP and 2 PCI, with no success.
At this point I pulled the board out of the system and let it sit with the battery out of the board hoping that the BIOS would reset to default values. I reinstalled the board with all the hardware and again the same D-Bracket error with no video generated. I tried different arrangements of memory using the new Corsairs and various other DDR333 & DDR266 again no luck.
What is going on with this thing? How could an errant timing change completely lock out the VGA card? And why can I not clear the settings to allow the card to initialize?
This thing is getting RMA'd soon if I can't find an answer.
Anyone have any ideas or similiar troubles? X(

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Originally posted by gary172
Another thing I don\'t understand about all the isses with BIOS 1.3, performance, RAM and timings etc, is - How can the 865PE Neo2 - FIS2R pretty much come out at the top of the heap in Tom\'s Hardware Test:
\"The board therefore achieves the best performance in the whole test field.\"
http://www6.tomshardware.com/motherboard/20030707/i875p-46.html
with MAT and DOT enabled, without any apparent negative reports of stability.
Is it that he used a Beta Bios: V1.3B3 (06/12/2003)
Or was his MSI board a \'pre-press release\' mobo similar to the ASUS board and the production versions we are buying are missing certain components?
http://www6.tomshardware.com/motherboard/20030603/865_PAT-06.html
Or did he have \'hand picked\' memory from Corsair \"2 x 256 MB, Corsair PC3200 TwinX\" and didn\'t report it?
There are a lot of reviews lately that have it as one of the fastest MB's around at the moment, here are a handful I found:
http://www.mbreview.com/neo2pe-10.php
http://www.thejemreport.com/reviews/865peneo2.htm
http://www.hardwarezone.com/article...&aid=795&page=1
http://www.hexus.net/review.php?review=564&page=1
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview....eid=1402&page=1
http://www.techview.nl/reviews/2959

865PE Neo2 FIS2R

Hello all. I've searched the forums and read alot of posts about my problem, but seem to be missing the information I am looking for. Let me tell you what is going on. I have the MSI 865PE Neo2 FIS2R mobo ver 1, P4 3.0 800FSB, 1 gig corsair twinx XMS 3200 CL2. My problem is when I try to use this RAM my system will not start. No Post, nothing and the D-bracket shows me memory error code. If I use a strip of crucial from my other PC everything works fine (the crucial is 333mhz at 512mb, cl3). I checked out the RAM compatability report on the MSI site and it was pretty confusing to me. I guess my question is, is my RAM compatible or is there a work around to using the XMS modules?
Other components are as follows:
ATI Radeon 9800XT (256)
48xCD-RW
80gig WD drive (PATA)
431w Enermax PSU
Thanks in advance for your help.

Hi Dink,
great to see someone who has the same config as I have.
My System:
865PE NEO2 FIS2R (Bios 1.8)
CORSAIR TWINX1024-3200C2PRO
ATI Radeon 9800XT
My system is running very stable with Ram-Settings at 2-3-3-6-8 in Turbo/Sergeant. Pls set your timings to these values. This should work.
Now a question to you. I have problems with the ATI 9800XT cards.
1) Do you also see stuttering or lags when running 3DMark2001SE? With ATI 9800XT Reference Cards I experience these lags also in the overlay mode and in Games when turning very fast (egoshooters). You can see what I mean when you install this little tool which changes the background of your WinXP desktop to a psychedelic wormhole: http://www.geisswerks.com/drempels/index.html
After you start this funny tool. Watch out for your desktop. If it isn't runnin 100% smooth you have the same problems as I have. The only 9800XT card which isn't causing this stuttering is the ASUS 9800XT. Could you pls. tell me if you also see these lags? You can increase the stuttering by copying some files from Dir1 to Dir2.
These lags have no impact of benchmark results!
2) Pls could you tell me what's the IRQ of your card? 16? Is it shared with the USB Controller?
3) Who is the manufacturer of your card? Ati itself or Hercules, HIS or Saphire??
If you cannot see this stuttering I would bet you have a ASUS.
Greets Digit
from Germany

865PE Neo2 -FIS2R POST problem

I'm having a problem with my newly built system and hoped that someone here might be able to help.
I am using the 865PE Neo2 -FIS2R motherboard with a 3.0Ghz P4 800Mhz FSB and a single 512MB Value Select Corsair RAM (DDR 3200, 200/400Mhz). The installed Video Card is a Leadtek Geforce3 Ti. There are no other expansion cards installed. There is no HDD.
When I power on my PC, I hear 2 short beeps, a pause, and then 8 short beeps. I'm also not getting any video. I looked up the beep codes on the AMI Bios web page. 2 beeps for video card issues and 8 beeps for memory issues.
I think the d-bracket is a great touch, so I check out its LED indicators. It shows the pattern denoting a memory issue. The only other RAM module I have laying around is a single generic PC 2100 266Mhz module. So, I pop it in. When I power on the system I get the same beep codes and LED configuration on the d-bracket.
Are the MSI Neo2 boards extremley picky about RAM? Should I be using two modules as per the RAM population table in the manual? Is there a recommended brand/model of RAM? Is there anything else I should be looking at as the cause?
I plan on picking up some different RAM modules over my lunch break today but before I did I wanted to check with those who know before I blow money on them.
Thanks for any help/advince.

KevinS,
Sad to say but there are some Corsair RAMs are known for instability problems with MSI mobos, especially the Low Latency RAM with the NEOs and NEO2s. That's why MSI has to test the RAMs to make sure that there is a list of confirmed and compatible RAMs for the mobo.
Pheng,
This AVATAR is better than the last one, at least it's not the 3X rated type... but I'll put an NC-16 PG for it hehehe... . Another thing is that I did not say that I hate the previous AVATAR at all... lol... Just feel that it is unsuitable for a tech forum where people from all over the world in all age and genders will be visting and viewing the threads. I hope you understand the suitation here .

865PE NEO2 FIS2R memory problem

I have this 865PE NEO2 FIS2R with a 3ghz northwood (512K cache, 800 fsb).
initially I bought a 1GB Geil PC3500 DDR dual channel kit. installed those into slot 1 and 3, installed windows...during install I would get blue screens. recently I bought a new PC-3700 DDR dual channel kit (industry standard generic stuff). I bought those cause the place I got it from claimed it works on the i875 NEO FIS2R. I figured if it works on the 875P, it should work on the 865PE. with the new memory I get blue screens a tad more often.
I tried both geil sticks again this time as single channel in slots 1 and 2 (Ch. A). I still got blue screens. I did the same with the new PC-3700 RAM, blue screens with that too.
I took those sticks out, and tried 1 Geil PC-3500 stick in slot 1, no blue screens.
Whats the deal here? shouldn't dual channel memory work as dual channel in a dual channel board? WHy can't I use 2 sticks of the same RAM in this board!
is it just incompatiable with geil dual channel? If so what about the PC-3700 RAM I tried as dual. I am thinking about trying a set of OCZ dual channel RAM, but I feel I already got $400 worth of RAM I can't use, I don't really want to waste another $200 if this is just a crappy board.
I'm thinking of just getting the new Asus with the SiS 655TX chipset, supposed to be faster anyway. 2 sticks of RAM would most likely work in that board.
I really don't want to spend anymore money on this though...I spent enough.
the specs:
P4 3ghz northwood
865PE NEO2 FIS2R (with updated 2.3 bios)
Chieftech 650 watt Power supply 36A, 36A, & 32A
BFG geforce FX 5900 Ultra 256MB (also tried an old geforce 2 mx 32MB)
memory tried: 1GB geil PC-3500 dual channel kit & 1GB generic dual channel kit
3com Network interface card
WD 120GB SE hard drive
Plextor 8X DVD-RW drive
Lite on 16X DVDROM drive

This problem is not yet solved....
I tried increasing the ram voltage to 2.8v, it ran fine for about 3 days...then boom..restart
I am seeing other people are having the same problem with these 865/875 boards.
after raising the ram voltage didn't work I tried unplugging all of my extra hard drives 1 by 1 with the memory set to 2.7v.
I am at the point where I have only my boot drive connected with the two DVD drives.
But I am still thinking its my power supply...that power supply caculator page says I need a 519 watt PS?? I have a true550 which is only 530 watt max.
If I do need to add 20% to the power calculated, I would need a 622 watt PS???
I am running speedfan now....how low is the voltages ok to drop to?
the +12 dropped to 11.19, max is 11.80
the rest of the voltages are staying more or less constant .
Oh yea, on occasion the nb fan stops, I get a warning in corecenter saying 0 RPMs.
Also I can't set the fans to high speed, 6000RPM for the nb, and 5000RPM for the CPU.
If I set corecenter to user, and move the slide up to 8, the max is only 3375RPM for the CPU and 3750RPM for the NB fan.
Also every once in awhile the power LED on my case will go out while the system is running.
But thats been doing that for awhile now!
I'm thinking I will connect up my other hard drives again and run this speed fan program again.
update:
I reconnected my drives, ran speed fan, noticed it stops responding after 10 min...I get an error saying smbus cannot be scanned...or something like that.
Also I've got errors when downloading saying I have no ports available. it sounds like the bus is shutting down??
This is not the only MSI 865PE NEO2 FIS2R I have ran into problems with
it looks like I will be getting a new board next week....either an Asus or Abit.

865PE Neo2-FIS2R, memory question!

Hi!
I´m thinking of buying memory for the 865PE Neo2-FIS2R mother board and have a few doubts that are on my mind.
1. If I want to use DualMode memory, should I use 256+256 or 512+512.
Lets assume that I buy 2x 256MB and uses them as DualMode.
Can I later put another 2 x 256MB into the computer and use them all as DualMode, (256+256+256+256) or is only possible to use 2 of each size.
Maybee I should buy 1x of 512MB and use it as SingeMode and later complement with another 512 and use them as DualMode.
hmmmmm.......any point of views?
The memory I´m talking about is:
Corsair CMX256A-3500C2 256Mb DDR PC3500 CAS2 434MHz
Corsair CMX512-3500C2 512Mb DDR PC3500 CAS2 434MHz
I assume that they are the same as MSI has in its
"DDR400 Memory Modules Qualified Vender List " and should work just fine with the motherboard.
Regards
WiGGoW

I would not go with that brand of ram. There are alot of issues being talked about involving that ram in this forum. I recommend Kingston and so does MSI. Keep in mind to obtain Ultr-Turbo in Bios you need to buy a latency of 2 or you will get an error message and your bios will reset to slow.

Any issues with Koolance CPU-200G on 865PE NEO2 FIS2R?

I'm thinking about getting a Koolance Exos and using the CPU-200G Block on my 865PE NEO2 FIS2R board. Has anyone had any experience, good or bad, with this set up.
My problem is that I just upgraded from a 3 year old Presario that was actually very quiet (what did it have to cool? heh). And now my case has 5 80 MM fans running, a CNPS7000a-AlCu, plus PSU fans, GPU fan, NB fan... fans, fans, fans!!!! And the thing is so freaking loud.
Water-cooling looks like a good solution, but I don't know if
A) the block will fit on the board or
B) would I just be better off removing a couple fans.
Currently, everything is quite cool, I just want to kill the noise!
Thanks for any input or testimonials.

If you don't have any small kids or pets that might get in there, I would suggest removing ALL fan grills. Any time you make air change direction you increase noise. Furthermore with the case of fan grills you also increase air turbulence that disturbs the flow of air lowering cooling efficiency.
Ever listen to how quiet that 80mm fan is by itself when you put it to your ear? Why doesn't it sound like that in the case. The answer air that passes the grills and sharp edges of the computer case and inside makes noise as it hits the edges and surfaces. Eliminating as many of them as you can can aid in turbulence and temperature drop!
Not to mention the competition audio stuff in my thunderbird works great as insulation. Dynamat can kill most any sound, noise or vibration!
Lastly, bigger fans that spin lower RPM's are a key to eliminating sound. Same concept as the CNPS. A good flowing 2500RPM Sunon 80mm fan on your videocard would be just as effective and much quieter than the stock 5000+ RPM fan! You can reduce noise with less heat. I REALLY like the Zalman Heatpipe VGA cooler, but without a case with KILLER airflow, overclocking your card with one can be pretty unpredictable from machine to machine.

OCing, Neo2 Fis2R, can you run something BESIDES 1:1?

well after two weeks of no questions, and computer running great! (partly thx to all of you), i have another question.. My neo2-fis2r, i was wondering if i can run ram at ratio of CPU, because in BIOS i dont see any option for it.. i can set RAM speed, and set RAM timings, but i dont see anything abotu running a ratio.. i am running at about 217 FSB now (so RAM is also running at 217, or DDR 434) and it wont go any higher.. i have tried everything, to raising voltages and set timings differently and i cant get passed the 217.. i am pretty sure it is my RAM, cause it is running at 1:1, and i doubt it can OC much higher then it is
Infineon PC3200 512 X 2 2.5-3-3-6 2.65 V
so, question was can i run at a ratio with my board? or do i just need to go buy me some PC4000 to get my FSB up any higher... thanx and hope to hear from anyone soon...

yes, definetely, but i never did see the benchmarks for that, thank you, but really, that stuff is a matter of the low latency of PC3200 vs the clock speed of kingstons PC4000.
kingstons hyper-x runs at cas 3 (i mean.. that sucks), once they get some PC4000 with tighter timings, than it won't even be a question, 1:1 is the way to go speedwise, $$$wise is totally different... maybe run 5:4 because you don't want to spend the money on PC4000.
and we calculated that the max of ram is 217, so keeping a 5:4 ratio, you could run the FSB up to around 271, which is more than we need. the infineon may not OC well, but it does have tight timings.

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