Thinking of Moving from gentoo any advice

Im thinking  of moving from gentoo to ArchLinux as I have a few pet peeves about gentoo that won't go away
but I can't go to suse, fedora etc etc tried them and its AOL all over again ..too much hand holding
has any body had any exp moving from gentoo to Archlinux?
and use a luks encrypted root , home & swap
also are things like Nvidia drivers, Mp3 , dvd stuff in the distro or do i have to go hunting add other repo's (fedora style   )
does the Gnome build include things like hald dbus auto magically
any other things to expect 
like not bugs persay but diffences that I might not expect
regards Dick
Last edited by xpd259 (2007-12-31 03:24:36)

Here is my experience with the two distro's. I tried gentoo before finding arch linux. I was looking for a OS that I could have more control over the setup, that was my criteria.
Gentoo fit that bill exactly. So I started in on the installation guide for gentoo. When I was done I rebooted my pc only to find that gentoo didn't install right the first time. Somewhere I made a mistake and things went ape sh*t on me.
My next attempt was at arch linux, again, I just started in with the installation guide and things seemed to go smooth, sorta like gentoo. All seemed well, but I did not get my hopes up. When I rebooted my pc after the install of arch I was pleasantly surprised to see it had booted to the command line. WOOT! I was hooked, what can be more easier then diving into something completely blind, a newb at that, and still come out on top with a working, fast, reliable system. Plus its bleeding edge, which just makes my day.
I am not saying one is better then the other, but I find arch linux to be right up my alley. AUR is one of the best features of this site. But, my favorite section is still the wiki. I have linked to this wiki plenty of time even for others using different distro's. The amount of knowledge in the arch wiki is a godsend for any newb like me wanting to understand linux. Gentoo has a great wiki, but half of what they say and discuss is way over my head ATT.

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    2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 560 Ti - 2 DVI,HDMI,VGA - 3D Vision Ready
    1.25GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 570 - 2 DVI, HDMI, DP - 3D Vision Ready
    2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 670 - 2 DVI, HDMI, DP - 3D Vision Ready
    2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 680 - 2 DVI, HDMI, DP - 3D Vision Ready
    4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 680 - 2 DVI, HDMI, DP - 3D Vision Ready
    4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 690 DUAL GPU - 3 x DVI-I, 1 x mDP
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    1GB AMD RADEON™ HD6450 - DVI,HDMI,VGA - DX® 11
    1GB AMD RADEON™ HD6570 - DVI,HDMI,VGA - DX® 11
    1GB AMD RADEON™ HD6670 - DVI,HDMI,VGA - DX® 11
    1GB AMD RADEON™ HD6770 - DVI,HDMI,VGA - DX® 11
    1GB AMD RADEON™ HD6850 - 2 DVI,HDMI, DP - DX® 11, Eyefinity 3 Capable
    1GB AMD RADEON™ HD6870 - 2 DVI,HDMI,2 mDP - DX® 11, Eyefinity 4 Capable
    1GB AMD RADEON™ HD7750 - DVI,HDMI,DP - DX® 11, Eyefinity 3 Capable
    1GB AMD RADEON™ HD7770 - DVI,HDMI,2 mDP - DX® 11, Eyefinity 4 Capable
    2GB AMD RADEON™ HD7850 - DVI,HDMI,2 mDP - DX® 11, Eyefinity 4 Capable
    2GB AMD RADEON™ HD7870 - DVI,HDMI,2 mDP - DX® 11, Eyefinity 4 Capable
    3GB AMD RADEON™ HD7950 - DVI,HDMI,2 mDP - DX® 11, Eyefinity 4 Capable
    3GB AMD RADEON™ HD7970 - DVI,HDMI,2 mDP - DX® 11, Eyefinity 4 Capable
    NONE, I ALREADY HAVE A GRAPHICS CARD
    2nd Graphics Card
    NONE
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    1GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 550 Ti - DVI,HDMI,VGA - 3D Vision Ready
    1GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 560 - DVI,HDMI,VGA - 3D Vision Ready
    2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 560 - 2 DVI,HDMI,VGA - 3D Vision Ready
    1GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 560 Ti - 2 DVI,HDMI,VGA - 3D Vision Ready
    2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 560 Ti - 2 DVI,HDMI,VGA - 3D Vision Ready
    1.25GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 570 - 2 DVI, HDMI, DP - 3D Vision Ready
    2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 670 - 2 DVI, HDMI, DP - 3D Vision Ready
    2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 680 - 2 DVI, HDMI, DP - 3D Vision Ready
    4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 680 - 2 DVI, HDMI, DP - 3D Vision Ready
    4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 690 DUAL GPU - 3 x DVI-I, 1 x mDP
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    1GB AMD RADEON™ HD6850 - 2 DVI,HDMI, DP - DX® 11, Eyefinity 3 Capable
    1GB AMD RADEON™ HD6870 - 2 DVI,HDMI,2 mDP - DX® 11, Eyefinity 4 Capable
    1GB AMD RADEON™ HD7750 - DVI,HDMI,DP - DX® 11, Eyefinity 3 Capable
    1GB AMD RADEON™ HD7770 - DVI,HDMI,2 mDP - DX® 11, Eyefinity 4 Capable
    2GB AMD RADEON™ HD7850 - DVI,HDMI,2 mDP - DX® 11, Eyefinity 4 Capable
    2GB AMD RADEON™ HD7870 - DVI,HDMI,2 mDP - DX® 11, Eyefinity 4 Capable
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    3GB AMD RADEON™ HD7970 - DVI,HDMI,2 mDP - DX® 11, Eyefinity 4 Capable
    3rd Graphics Card
    NONE
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    2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 670 - 2 DVI, HDMI, DP - 3D Vision Ready
    2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 680 - 2 DVI, HDMI, DP - 3D Vision Ready
    4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 680 - 2 DVI, HDMI, DP - 3D Vision Ready
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    2TB 3.5" SATA-III 6GB/s HDD 7200RPM 64MB CACHE
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    1TB VELOCIRAPTOR WD1000DHTZ, SATA 6-Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (10,000rpm)
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    1TB WD CAVIAR GREEN WD10EARX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE
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    120GB INTEL® 330 SERIES SSD, SATA 6 Gb/s (upto 500MB/sR | 450MB/sW)
    180GB INTEL® 330 SERIES SSD, SATA 6 Gb/s (upto 500MB/sR | 450MB/sW)
    120GB INTEL® 520 SERIES SSD, SATA 6 Gb/s (upto 550MB/sR | 520MB/sW)
    180GB INTEL® 520 SERIES SSD, SATA 6 Gb/s (upto 550MB/sR | 520MB/sW)
    240GB INTEL® 520 SERIES SSD, SATA 6 Gb/s (upto 550MB/sR | 520MB/sW)
    480GB INTEL® 520 SERIES SSD, SATA 6 Gb/s (upto 550MB/sR | 520MB/sW)
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    120GB KINGSTON HYPERX 3K SSD, SATA 6 Gb/s (upto 555MB/sR | 510MB/sW)
    240GB KINGSTON HYPERX 3K SSD, SATA 6 Gb/s (upto 555MB/sR | 510MB/sW)
    480GB KINGSTON HYPERX 3K SSD, SATA 6 Gb/s (upto 540MB/sR | 450MB/sW)
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    NONE
    250GB 3.5" SATA-III 6GB/s HDD 7200RPM 16MB CACHE
    500GB 3.5" SATA-III 6GB/s HDD 7200RPM 16MB CACHE
    1TB 3.5" SATA-III 6GB/s HDD 7200RPM 32MB CACHE
    2TB 3.5" SATA-III 6GB/s HDD 7200RPM 64MB CACHE
    3TB 3.5" SATA-III 6GB/s HDD 7200RPM 64MB CACHE
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    180GB INTEL® 330 SERIES SSD, SATA 6 Gb/s (upto 500MB/sR | 450MB/sW)
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    480GB KINGSTON HYPERX 3K SSD, SATA 6 Gb/s (upto 540MB/sR | 450MB/sW) 
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    CORSAIR 850W ENTHUSIAST SERIES™ TX850 V2-80 PLUS® BRONZE (£99)
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    CORSAIR 1050W PRO SERIES™ HX1050-80 PLUS® SILVER MODULAR (£158)
    CORSAIR 1200W PRO SERIES™ GOLD AX1200-80 PLUS® GOLD MODULAR (£206)
    -----------FANLESS POWER SUPPLIES 100% SILENT--------------
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    -----------ADVANCED PROCESSOR COOLING-------------------
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    NONE
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    AeroCool Touch 2000 LCD Touch Screen 4 Fan Controller + 2 x Front USB
    Sound Card
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    -----------SOUND CARDS FOR MOVIES AND MUSIC--------------
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    Creative Sound Blaster® X-Fi™ Xtreme Audio (£32)
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    Asus Xonar DGX 5.1-Channel Gaming Audio Card (£25)
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    Creative Sound Blaster Recon3D PCI-E Soundcard (£59)
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    Creative Sound Blaster Recon3D Fatal1ty Champion (£179)
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    -----------WIRELESS NETWORK PCI CARDS--------------
    WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps PCI-E CARD (£16)
    WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps PCI CARD (£16)
    DUAL-BAND WIRELESS 802.11N 450Mbps PCI-E CARD (£35)
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    -----------WIRELESS & BROADBAND (FOR BT LANDLINE USERS)--------------
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    -----------HOMEPLUGS - FAST & EASY USING YOUR ELECTRIC SOCKETS-----------
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    USB Options
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    2 PORT USB 3.0 INTERNAL PCI-EX CARD + STANDARD USB PORTS
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    56KBPS INTERNAL V92 DATA/FAX/VOICE MODEM (Special Offer! £5)
    Floppy Disk Drive
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    Firewire
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    PCTV SYSTEMS DVB-T DUAL TUNER DIGITAL FREEVIEW TV CARD
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