Thinking of upgrading to leopard from 10.3 what steps do I need to take?
I need to upgrade my G5 10.3.9 to be compatible with my new ipod. What kind of external HD should I buy to backup, and what software should I use to backup? I've read that many people like SuperDuper, but is that Leopard compatible? I've never upgraded my computer before and need some advise.
Hi moeron81!
Here are the
Tiger System Requirements,
and the Leopard System Requirements.
Those are the bare minimum, and more RAM is generally recommended.
Tiger is again, available for purchase at The Apple Store (U.S.).
And Leopard 10.5.x, can be also purchased at The Apple Store (U.S.).
If you know what to look for, a Full Retail Version, of the Tiger Install DVD, can be purchased, sometimes less expensively, at some online Apple retailers, Amazon, eBay, FastMac, HardCore Mac, AllMac, etc.
Be sure not to purchase grey, upgrade or machine specific CDs or DVDs.
The discs should look exactly like the images in the above links, and not say Upgrade, CPU Drop-in DVD, or "This software is part of a hardware bundle purchase - not to be sold seperately." on them.
Additional info in these links.
Using OS X Install CDs/DVDs On Multiple Macs
What's A Computer Specific Mac OS X Release
Software Update, Upgrade: What's The Difference?
Caveat Emptor!
If any are presently available, examine these items very carefully, and if in doubt, ask questions of the seller before purchase!
Tiger On eBay
Additionally, Tiger 10.4.x ships on a DVD, so if your Mac doesn’t have a built-in DVD-ROM player, you will have to use an alternative method of installation.
Info here Installing Tiger Without A DVD Drive.
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The Tiger Media Exchange Program, referred to in that article, is no longer available.
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I have a late 2004 iMac Power PCG5, 20inch display, 1.8GHz, 2GB RAM, running Panther 10.3.9.
I am looking to possibly buy a few iPhones for the wife and I and I know that system requirements are 10.4.1 or higher. Since I cannot get Tiger anymore, I need to buy Leopard.
My computer runs smoothly, no problems, I have always kept up on software updates. Heck, we have only used like 30GB of the 160GB hard drive!
My question(s)- has anyone experienced any problems doing this kind of jump from Panther to Leopard? Known issues? I really appreciate any and all input.... I would rather not have to buy a new computer just to simply get Leopard 10.5.
I just would like to hear some reassurances or downsides before I spend $129 for Leopard.
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The MBP internal drive that Apple uses is only 5400RPM and can't transfer data to boot the operating system or applications as fast as almost any drive in a PowerMac. Even with the ram maxed out, I was not getting all the performance from Tiger that a comparable PowerMac with the same CPU and video could get. Almost all modern PC's and Macs use 7200RPM (or faster) drives which can access and transfer data about 25% faster.
I decided to install Leopard to an external FW800 drive. I used an external drive because I didn't want damage my perfectly good running Tiger installation on the Laptop. I used FW800 because it is presently the fasted port on the Mac that supports booting. eSATA cards are available, but none of them guarantee booting.
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Then I installed Leopard again and imported my applications and settings. This led to a couple of problems that were fixed with a couple of software updates and I fine tuned TM to a degree.
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+ 2 hour upgrade to Leopard from Tiger on Brand New imac 20"
Forgive my upcoming ignorance as this is my first Apple Computer and I know very little about Apple overall but I know a LOT about PCs and Windows.
I just purchased an imac, 20" Intel 2ghz Core Duo, LAST NIGHT.
From out of the box, to plugging in the computer and peripherals, to getting into Tiger for the first time and putting in the Leopard upgrade disk.
Is 2+ hours normal to do this upgrade.. this upgrade took FOREVER. I've installed many operating systems on PCs, mind you I'm installing Windows but it's never taken me 2+ hours to install an Upgrade to an OS on a reasonably fast machine. I've installed / upgraded linux in less time.
I can't believe this is normal and have some concern as to there being an Issue with the Combo Drive or something else?
There's no lights to indicate disk activity or anything during the installation, this is something I'm quite used to in the PC world, to be able to tell if the computer is accessing the Hard Drive or the CD/DVD drive with little lights or even noise. The only noise I heard was scattered disk noises and a random spin up of the CD Drive every so often.
The only visual indicator on the screen was the progress bar during the installation with a Time indicator that seemed to be having as much difficulty as I was in figuring how long this should take. Frequently it would jump from 1 hour 40 minutes to as much as 2 hours and 50 minutes estimating installation time.
Any experts here have any insight on this? Is this normal? Am I missing something here... I would hate to endure another upgrade or install that will be this painful in the future.
Thanks for your input and time on this!Promomag wrote:
Ah yes, I remember 95, infact, I did install this version from floppy, it was 27 floppies if I remember correctly.... at least I was doing something if it took just as long, so I don't think that install was as agonizing as this. Thanks for the memories.
C'mon though... what's up with not having any indication that the computer is doing anything at all while it's installing.... Couldn't apple make the little Apple logo on the front blink or something when there's disk activity. Seriously, I like that the Mac is quiet, but I don't like having to put my ear to the side of the case to hear if it's doing anything. If I hear the cd whiring or the disk crunching I have a good indication there's activity but through this whole process the CD only spun up in short spurts every so often.
I was wondering if this install was recompiling kernals or doing something ... the time indicator bar as my only means to an estimated guage is very silly to me!
I thought about that when I installed and even posted about those seemingly long times when nothing seems to be happening and cautioned the rush-hour crowd to be patient.
I think I have an answer, but it may be stretching things: many Mac users, I have noticed don't like things like desktop items, even if it's only one or two. One did not even like the Dock and wanted it gone - not hidden as most of us set it, but gone. Finito! And for years there were only one-button mice available and no BSD under the hood. So I think this lack of information is only annoying to people like me who came recently from the PC world (and am still in it) but the Macophiles probably like those blank information-less screens. I do recall once that Apple ran an ad saying "Who cares about MHz, GHz GBs and such - it's the color (flavor?) that counts. Fortunately, Apple has come a long way from then and attracted people like myself who do care about what is under the hood.
I suspect as more and more get involved in the BSD stuff and X11 and such, that these indicators will become more prevalent. At least I hope so.
An obvious bug when using DU, in 10.5.1, however, is that when doing a verify, my odometer says 1 minute left for about 5 minutes and then backs up and says 13 minutes left and drops about 1 minute every few seconds. In 10.5.0 the barber pole spun for a long time with no information.
Still, these are reasonably minor glitches and certainly not show-stoppers.
All-in-all, I look at Leopard as a distinct improvement over Tiger in almost every area. I miss Sherlock - which is why I keep my bootable Tiger clones up-to-date and working properly.
Interestingly, I have 3 Macs and 2 PCs and 5 Windows programs running on them.
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Have iMac with OS X version 10.6.3 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo with 2GB 800 MHz DDRw SDRAM. Purchased Mac OSX Snow Leopard and installed the upgrade.
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freedone,
Your Non-Intel PPC iMac can only be upgraded to Tiger 10.4.x, as it does not meet the Leopard System Requirements.
-Mac computer with an Intel, PowerPC G5, or PowerPC G4 (867MHz or faster processor) Yours is 600MHZ, which cannot be upgraded.
-512MB of memory You have 256MB, which you can add to, and should, if you install Tiger 10.4.x.
-DVD drive for installation The 600MHZ iMac, shipped with a DC-RW drive, so unless you have replaced it, with a DVD drive, you do not have one. There are alternate methods of installing Tiger 10.4.x, without one though. More info posted below.
-9GB of available disk space You currently do not have sufficient available free space. More info posted below.
With some upgrading of the iMac's Hardware, to meet the Tiger System Requirements, you can upgrade to that version. More info posted below.
"...19.07 GB 837.7 MB free."
You are dangerously low on available Hard Drive free space!
Backup the system ASAP, and then create additional drive space!
Insufficient available space, can cause performance issues, system corruption, and possible loss of data.
Depending on Mac system usage habits, it is a general recommendation, to keep 10% to as much as 20%, of the Total capacity, available at all times.
Review the suggestions, in the documents that I have linked to below.
Authored by Dr Smoke:
Problems From Insufficient RAM And Free Hard Disk Space
Freeing Space On Your Mac OS X Startup Disk
Mac OS X 10.3/10.4: System Maintenance, authored by Gulliver
Maintaining Mac OS X, authored by Dr Smoke
Is the Mac shutdown overnight, or does it run 24/7?
Have you ever run any routine Maintenance procedures?
If you turn the PowerBook off nightly, the Background Maintenance Tasks, are never run.
These can also be run, using a Third-Party utility, or manually using Terminal, to run the CRON Commands.
I use MacJanitor, when necessary.
INSTRUCTIONS TO RUN CRON MANUAL COMMANDS
Quit all applications/programs.
Navigate to HD > Applications > Utilities.
Double click on Terminal, to open.
At the prompt, type:
sudo periodic daily
Press Return.
Enter your Admin password when prompted, then press Return.
This will execute the daily script that is sheduled to run every night.
When completed, repeat this procedure, but change the command to:
sudo periodic weekly
This one rebuilds a database or two, and usually takes somewhat longer to complete. It is scheduled to run once a week.
Repeat again, with command:
sudo periodic monthly
Or they can all be run in one pass, which is preferable, with this command:
sudo periodic daily weekly monthly
When the tasks complete, and return to the prompt, you may quit Terminal.
Restart the Mac, and run Repair Permissions.
TO REPAIR PERMISSIONS ON THE STARTUP DISK
1.Open Disk Utility, located in Applications/Utilities, and select the startup disk in the left column.
2.Click First Aid.
3.Click Verify Disk Permissions to test permissions or Repair Disk Permissions to test and repair permissions. (I never "Verify". Just run "Repair".)
Rerun RP, until the only messages reported, are listed here Spurious Permissions Errors Using: 10.3.x, authored by Michael Conniff.
When "Repair Permissions" is complete. Quit "Disk Utility".
Mac OS X Versions 10.1, 10.2, 10.3, 10.4, and 10.5, are complete system upgrades that must be purchased.
Once an OS has been installed, the point upgrades, such as 10.1.x to 10.1.5 (Final) 10.2.x to 10.2.8 (Final), 10.3.x to 10.3.9 (Final), 10.4.x to 10.4.11 (Pending), and 10.5.x to 10.5.1 (Pending), can be downloaded for free.
Tiger is available for purchase at The Apple Store (U.S.).
If you know what to look for, a Full Retail Version, of the Tiger Install DVD, can be purchased, sometimes less expensively, at some online Apple retailers, Amazon, eBay, FastMac, HardCore Mac, AllMac, etc.
Be sure not to purchase grey, upgrade or machine specific CDs or DVDs.
The disc should look exactly like the images in the above links, and not say Upgrade, CPU Drop-in DVD, or "This software is part of a hardware bundle purchase - not to be sold seperately." on it.
Additional info in these links.
Using OS X Install CDs/DVDs On Multiple Macs
What's A Computer Specific Mac OS X Release
Software Update, Upgrade: What's The Difference?
Caveat Emptor!
If any are presently available, examine these items very carefully, and if in doubt, ask questions of the seller before purchase!
Tiger On eBay
Once Tiger 10.4.x is installed, you can use the PPC 10.4.11 Combo Update, to upgrade to the current version.
Additionally, Tiger 10.4.x ships on a DVD, so if your Mac doesn’t have a built-in DVD-ROM player, you will have to use an alternative method of installation.
Info here Installing Tiger Using Firewire Target Disk Mode.
And here Installing Tiger Without A DVD Drive.
The Tiger Media Exchange Program, referred to, is no longer available.
Shop Carefully, Examine All Documentation, And I Wish You Success!
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