Thinkpad T450s Defective [Pictures]

I had a bad experience with the hinge on an ideapad so the first thing I did when I got the T450s was check the hinge area. One thing I noticed is that on my laptop, the area to the left of the left hinge is slightly separated from the screen area itself (i.e. separation between the metal part the hinge attaches to and the black plastic-y material making up the upper screen. This issue doesn't exist to the right of the right hinge. I have attached pictures, they are not the highest quality but should illustrate the flaw. If you are a thinkpad t450s owner, take a look at these areas (to the right of the right hinge and to the left of the left hinge) and let me know if you see separation/differences between the two. I don't mind this visually because it is hard to spot, but I am concerned with whether it may develop into a larger problem in the future. I have the option to return this for a refund and the laptop is under warranty. Will this get worse and do you have a similar issue on your thinkpad? Here you can see the separation to the left of the left hinge: Link to image 1 No separation to the right of the right hinge: Link to image 2 Moderator note: large image(s) converted to link(s): About Posting Pictures In The Forums

Bitkeeper wrote:
JNavas wrote:
that module is quite expensive, and performance will be even more impaired due to 60% of memory opoerating in single channel mode.
yes on the price.
[1] On the performance I'd love to see a test. Many people will put 8GB modules into the system and have the same issue with single channel mode. [2] But on the other hand "not having enough memory" can slow down a system a lot more, because it would swap a lot of the RAM to the drive. Having 20GB of RAM (4GB soldered plus 16GB as module) might result in a lot better performance than having just 4+4=8GB total.
1. See RAM Performance Benchmark: Single-Channel vs. Dual-Channel - Does It Matter?
2. You can avoid paging (not swapping) overhead by limiting Virtual Memory, either by turning it off entirely, or by setting a small range of 512-1024. (I use the latter approach.)
Hope that helps,
John
ThinkPad T450s [ i7-5600U | 8GB | 1TB SSD | Full HD IPS | 802.11ac | BT | Webcam | FR | Win8.1Pro64 ]

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Thinkpad T450s Defective?

I had a bad experience with the hinge on an ideapad so the first thing I did when I got the T450s was check the hinge area. One thing I noticed is that on my laptop, the area to the left of the left hinge is slightly separated from the screen area itself (i.e. separation between the metal part the hinge attaches to and the black plastic-y material making up the upper screen. This issue doesn't exist to the right of the right hinge. I have attached pictures, they are not the highest quality but should illustrate the flaw.
If you are a thinkpad t450s owner, take a look at these areas (to the right of the right hinge and to the left of the left hinge) and let me know if you see separation/differences between the two.
I don't mind this visually because it is hard to spot, but I am concerned with whether it may develop into a larger problem in the future. I have the option to return this for a refund and the laptop is under warranty.
Will this get worse and do you have a similar issue on your thinkpad?
Here you can see the separation to the left of the left hinge:
Link to image 1
No separation to the right of the right hinge:
Link to image 2
Moderator note: large image(s) converted to link(s): About Posting Pictures In The Forums

Bitkeeper wrote:
JNavas wrote:
that module is quite expensive, and performance will be even more impaired due to 60% of memory opoerating in single channel mode.
yes on the price.
[1] On the performance I'd love to see a test. Many people will put 8GB modules into the system and have the same issue with single channel mode. [2] But on the other hand "not having enough memory" can slow down a system a lot more, because it would swap a lot of the RAM to the drive. Having 20GB of RAM (4GB soldered plus 16GB as module) might result in a lot better performance than having just 4+4=8GB total.
1. See RAM Performance Benchmark: Single-Channel vs. Dual-Channel - Does It Matter?
2. You can avoid paging (not swapping) overhead by limiting Virtual Memory, either by turning it off entirely, or by setting a small range of 512-1024. (I use the latter approach.)
Hope that helps,
John
ThinkPad T450s [ i7-5600U | 8GB | 1TB SSD | Full HD IPS | 802.11ac | BT | Webcam | FR | Win8.1Pro64 ]

ThinkPad T450s Review

Introduction
The ThinkPad T450s is one of the best new ultrabooks. While it's not as thin as some, it's still quite compact, and much easier to service than thinner machines, and the Full HD IPS screen is a standout feature.
This review is based on a production ThinkPad T450s, Machine Type 20BX, Product ID 20BXCTO1WW.
Intel Core i7-5600U Processor
Windows 8.1 Pro 64
14.0" FHD (1920 x 1080)
720p HD Camera
Intel HD Graphics 5500
4 GB DDR3L - SDRAM 1600MHz Base
Fingerprint Reader
500GB Hard Disk Drive, 7200rpm, 2.5"
ThinkPad Battery 3 cell Li-Polymer (23.2Whr) Front
ThinkPad Battery 3 cell Li-Polymer (23.2Whr) Rear
Country Pack 45W AC adapter United States (2pin)
Intel 7265 AC/B/G/N Dual Band Wireless + Bluetooth Version 4.0
After receipt:
4 GB Samsung SO-DIMM was installed
Hard disk was replaced with 1 TB Samsung 850 EVO SSD.
Construction
Quality of T450s construction is not up to old ThinkPad standards, with some obvious cheapening, but is still pretty good. Annoyances include the difficulty of prying off the bottom cover (after removing 8 screws) to get to the inside, and fingerprint-revealing textured plastic instead of the old rubberized finish. But it's quite solid, no flexing, and quite compact.
Connectivity
Port layout is reasonably good on both sides with nothing on the back. All USB ports are 3.0 with excellent performance. But Mini DisplayPort means you may have to buy and carry an easy-to-lose dongle. Wi-Fi performance (Intel 802.11ac 2x2) seems better than earlier generation 802.11n Intel cards, even those with 3x3. Bluetooth connections are fast. Speakers are decent but nothing to write home about. Webcam quality is improved over earlier generations, but still struggles in low light. Fingerprint reader is a big improvement. (Thank you, Apple.)
Performance
The good news is that the i7 T450s finally proves to be a bit faster than the Sandy Bridge i7 (T420s) on processor intensive tasks like video encoding, despite an ultra low voltage processor running a little slower. The machine is cool and silent most of the time, with only a soft blowing of air under heavy load.
Memory
4 GB of memory is soldered to the main board and there's only one SO-DIMM slot. While you can add an 8 GB SO-DIMM for 12 GB total, that would mean half the memory would work in single channel mode, which can have a pretty big impact on performance (as much as 20-30%) especially since the integrated graphics adapter uses part of main memory (reducing available memory). So if you care about performance you'll have to stick with 8 GB, which can be marginal for things like Ultra HD video editing. (The performance impact, of course, also applies to machines with only the base 4 GB memory. The promised NVIDIA 940M graphics option is not yet available.)
Screen
The 1920x1080 IPS screen may take some getting used to, but really is a good deal better than TN screens, and is pretty close to proper calibration out of the box. (Be sure to burn in the screen for at least 24 hours before making any judgements.)
Keyboard
The island keyboard is pretty good for what it is, but the layout still suffers as compared to the classic ThinkPad keyboard. Layout of Home End Insert Delete and PrtSc are poor, and other keys like Pause/Break are missing entirely, now only available as Fn key combinations (like Fn+B for Break) that are not marked on the keys. Also annoying is the lack of hardware status lights (hard disk, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, charging). You can rely on the Windows Task Bar for wireless and charging, but you'll need to install something like DiskLED (which works well) for disk activity. Keyboard backlight is usable (despite some annoying light bleed from the top row), but not as good as the classic ThinkLight.
Power
With just the standard 2nd battery, not the extended battery with big bulge on the bottom, the T450s can still be used on and off through an entire day without running out of battery power. The supplied power adapter is pretty small, but only 45W, so can't fast charge when the system is under load. If you care about fast charging you should get the optional Slim 65W Adapter.
Summary
A mostly welcome return to ThinkPad form, with a very good IPS screen, and finally enough ultra low voltage processor power to measure up to Sandy Bridge.
Hope that helps,
John
ThinkPad T450s [ i7-5600U | 8GB | 1TB SSD | Full HD IPS | 802.11ac | BT | Webcam | FR | Win8.1Pro64 ]
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Bitkeeper wrote:
JNavas wrote:
that module is quite expensive, and performance will be even more impaired due to 60% of memory opoerating in single channel mode.
yes on the price.
[1] On the performance I'd love to see a test. Many people will put 8GB modules into the system and have the same issue with single channel mode. [2] But on the other hand "not having enough memory" can slow down a system a lot more, because it would swap a lot of the RAM to the drive. Having 20GB of RAM (4GB soldered plus 16GB as module) might result in a lot better performance than having just 4+4=8GB total.
1. See RAM Performance Benchmark: Single-Channel vs. Dual-Channel - Does It Matter?
2. You can avoid paging (not swapping) overhead by limiting Virtual Memory, either by turning it off entirely, or by setting a small range of 512-1024. (I use the latter approach.)
Hope that helps,
John
ThinkPad T450s [ i7-5600U | 8GB | 1TB SSD | Full HD IPS | 802.11ac | BT | Webcam | FR | Win8.1Pro64 ]

My Thinkpad T450s has a SIM Slot

Hello,I bought a Thinkpad T450s just 3 days ago and found out it has a SIM Slot, but when i insert a SIM card inside the slot, it doesn't recognize my SIM card thus making me unable to connect to the internet via it and i need help on how i can connect to the internet through that means. I don't see the setting where i should connect to the WAN on my laptop. I am using Windows 7 Pro 64bit and i need help. Hope i get some answers and every answer will be appreciated thanks.

Welcome to the forum!
While some ThinkPads come with full WWAN support, many are shipped "WWAN upgradable" with a SIM slot and antennas, etc. but without the hardware card needed to connect to a WWAN. This allows the customer to add a WWAN card in the future. Are you sure your ThinkPad is the former?
Could you please post the machine type and model number (but not serial number) e.g. 20BX001PUS

Lenovo-Service für ThinkPad T450s

Schade. Momentan warte ich auch noch auf ein Mainboard für ein T450s (gemeldet am 11.06.) und habe mich eben nochmals erkundigt, wann es endlich geliefert werden soll: sehr wahrscheinlich nächste Woche.Es ist schon eigenartig (um es extrem milde auszudrücken), dass es bei einem neuen Modell anscheinend kein Ersatzteil gibt, die Notebooks aber x-tausend Mal in den Werken für den Verkauf produziert werden.

Hallo, ich habe ein kleines Problem mit dem Service von Lenovo.Ein Kollege nutzt seit April diesen Jahres ein Thinkpad 450s. Vor 14 Tagen bootete das Teil nicht mehr und gab nur noch 2 Piepser von sich.Da das Gerät noch Garantie hat und wir Vor-Ort-Service gekauft haben, habe ich am gleichen Tag ein Ticket beim Lenovo-Service (Tel. 0800-500 46 18) aufgemacht.Nun höre ich seit 14 Tagen, dass ein Motherboard für das T450s nicht lieferbar sei. Ich finde, dass das kein Zustand ist.Auf eine Email an "[email protected]" habe ich bisher keine Antwort bekommen.Kennt jemand einen Kontakt/Stelle, an den ich mich noch wenden kann? Vielen Dank. Gruß, Wolfgang

Can't Find M.2 16GB SSD for ThinkPad T450s

Hello all. So I just purchased and received a new T450s. For storage, I picked the 500GB HDD 7200rpm and also added a 16GB M.2_SSD Single. I can see the 500 GB HDD but I can't at all see anything regarding the M.2 SSD. I am not computer savvy so I'm probably missing something obvious, but how do I access the SSD? When I look at my computer, all I see is the following: Do I need to install the SSD? Is there some driver somewhere I need to download? Thanks in advance for any and all help.

Awesome. Yes you're right, I went into disk management and found it there. But if you'd humor for a bit longer, how do I make the memory in the SSD accessible, so that I can treat it as a normal memory storage, put files there, etc? Thanks again.

Resetting Lenovo Thinkpad T450s Back To Factory Settings/Clean Install

Hello, The T450s came with "Windows 8" installed and I freely upgraded to "Windows 10 Home Edition" following prompts. ---
Need a clean install with a new windows version "Windows 10 Enterprise" so:
. I created a bootable USB 3.0 with "Windows 10 Enterprise" on it.
. Went into BIOS and changed the boot order.
. F11 into boot utility, followed prompt and chose reset from media option
Issue:
. Even after choosing the media type "USB FDD", the laptop just resets back to logon screen
I have read a few posts about "Creating A restore Disk" etc, not interested in that. would like a clean wipe and fresh restart. I can re-download all the required drivers from lenovo afterwards.
What are my missing out here? Is there another change required in the BIOS?

Try giving boot priority to USB HDD rather than USB FDD?

T450s scrolling issues

Hi there! I recently received a new T450s and after performing a clean install of Windows 7 and updating my computer, I find that scrolling with the trackpoint (using the middle button we all missed) is broken. In every application, scrolling is either insensitive, barely works, or most often randomly jumps a page while scrolling, as if someone was pressing PgDn every few seconds. I started with version 18.1.27.20 of the UltraNav driver, but it was simply unusable. Downgrading to version 18.1.27.14 helped things somewhat, though I am still nowhere near an acceptable point. Adjusting settings has had no impact. Two finger scrolling on the trackpad works beautifully in every application. Suggestions? Comments?

I am investigating these customer reports of dissatisfaction with the response on T450s TrackPoints and TrackPads.
I'd like to get some more information:
Are you running Win 7 or Win 8.1?
Has your laptop been updated to Synpatics driver 18.1.27.20 release 4/3/15? http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/thinkpad-t-series-laptops/thinkpad-t450s/downloads/DS102029
I reviewed and sorted your feedback:
TrackPoint:
In-line flash images conflict with the T450S trackpoint scrolling
The trackpoint scrolling sticks and intermittently jumps during use
In-line flash images conflict with the T450S trackpoint scrolling
TrackPad:
Scrolling with the trackpoint using the middle button is broken
Scrolling with the middle button is lagging and slow
In every application, scrolling is either insensitive, barely works, or most often randomly jumps a page while scrolling, as if someone was pressing PgDn every few seconds
The scrolling function sticks and jumps while using a file explorer window
The trackpad also misses on 2 finger scrolling about half of the time
If you have any additional feedback for the TrackPoint or TrackPad, please add it so I can include it in my investigation.
Thank you,

T450s: missing 6-cell battery option in the configurator

Dear all,
now that the hardware trackpoints buttons are back it's time to buy a new thinkpad!
I'm configuring a T450s on shop.lenovo.com, but I noticed that the 6-cell battery option is missing. The only option that appears is:
ThinkPad Battery 3 cell Li-Polymer (23.2Whr) Rear
but I'd like to have the big one.
What am I missing?
Thanks!

JNavas wrote:
cavolaccio wrote:
now that the hardware trackpoints buttons are back it's time to buy a new thinkpad!
I'm configuring a T450s on shop.lenovo.com, but I noticed that the 6-cell battery option is missing. The only option that appears is:
ThinkPad Battery 3 cell Li-Polymer (23.2Whr) Rear
but I'd like to have the big one.
What am I missing?
Same battery (0C52862) as T440, T440s, T450, available here.
There's a big bulge on the bottom for the additional capacity.
UPDATE: ThinkPad Battery 68+ (6 cell) is available during checkout in the Accessories section.
Hope that helps,
John
ThinkPad T450s [ i7-5600U | 8GB | 1TB SSD | Full HD IPS | 802.11ac | BT | Webcam | FR | Win8.1Pro64 ]

T450s Impossoble to change brightness, neither in win8.1 settings or with hotkey

I have windows 8.1, the hotkeys havent worked since i upgraded. Neither does it work to change brightness in the charms menu. My eyes are literally screaming of pain while working in dark rooms, please help! I have installed ALL updates in System update and Windows Update. I have also installet the new Hotkey package: http://support.lenovo.com/no/nn/products/laptops-and-netbooks/thinkpad-t-series-laptops/thinkpad-t450s/downloads/DS029026.

Colonel:
I am not sure where it updated from, but its the 10.18.14.4206 driver, released 29.04.2015. This is the same driver available on lenovo support: http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/thinkpad-t-series-laptops/thinkpad-t450s
Sliout
I am not sure if it worked pre- win 8.1 since upgrading from 8.0 was the first thing i did when booting the computer. (Win 8.1 Enterprise by the way).
I bought it brand new.
Display adapter version: 10.18.14.4206. I can see that Intel has released .4222, should I install that? Its not available through lenovo or windows update.
I have a touch screen. I found a sticker with the text P/N on the chassis: Label P/N: SL 10G56446
Yes I have tried Microsoft Basic Display Adapter (tip from google), but i tried it again now since we have updated other drivers along the way. Still not working

T450s booting problems

I've just received a new Thinkpad T450s [intel Core i5, 4GB ram, 240GB SSD] and it booted alright the first time, but since then every time I try to start it up it instantly gets stuck on the LENOVO screen. No loading symbol, no "to interrupt normal start up etc.". Zilch after that.
If I push the power button, "killing" the laptop and then re-start it instantly it boots just fine.
Any idea if this is a problem I could solve or do I have to get it repaired?
Thanks for the help!

I would try resetting your bios to factory.Or try to see if there is a difference with or without power cable attached. I think it does not has anything to do with your hard drives since the lenovo slpash screen comes if before fully loading the bios and doing disk checks. After that it is reading what is on the disks (whether there is a bootable image or not). Things I would do:1. Reset BIOS to factory.2. Create bootable USB (with linux or something). Boot from the USB to see if this causes same problems.3. Do the same as 2. but remove the SSD inside remove your SSD. (Do this only if you know what your doing!)4. Try a Cpu and memmory check to see if these cause errors.5. As last resort call the support number for your country and tel them your problem. Most likely they will sent an engineer with a spare mainboard. He will check the problem, do a few quick fixes to see if that works, and will change mainboard as last resort. You can even give your work adress as the adress where you want the engineer to come. Thats what I did Good luck, and let the community know how it all ended

T450s Platform Specifications

ThinkPad T450s Platform Specifi cations
Hope that helps,
John
ThinkPad T450s [ i7-5600U | 8GB | 1TB SSD | Full HD IPS | 802.11ac | BT | Webcam | FR | Win8.1Pro64 ]
Solved!
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JNavas wrote:
940M is indeed unimpressive, but HD Graphics 5500 is pretty good. HD Graphics 6000 or Iris Graphics 6100 would be better, but 28W TDP may rule out i7-5557U with Iris 6100, and i7-5550U trades too much processor speed for HD Graphics 6000. Blame Intel.
I'm OK with the bright nonglare Full HD screen, and the keyboard is at least decent. I think it will be fine for programming and productivity use. It's not Great, but I do rate it Good, enough so that I may finally upgrade my T420s. CPU performance will be a wash, but battery life and (especially) screen will be better, and I can probably learn to live with the keyboard.
NVIDIA 940M graphics option is not available yet.
One other important issue is memory. With 1 SODIMM slot and only 4 GB soldered to the system board, dual channel memory operation (especially important with integrated graphics) is only available at 8 GB -- at max memory of 12 GB, memory operation is only lower performance single channel.
Hope that helps,
John
ThinkPad T450s [ i7-5600U | 8GB | 1TB SSD | Full HD IPS | 802.11ac | BT | Webcam | FR | Win8.1Pro64 ]

How to install keyboard to Lenovo T450s? - SOLVED!

Good day.
I've rearranged things a bit so that your post can be marked as solved.
Regards.

HI, I have 3 Thinkpad T450s that i need to change keyboard.When i follow this manual http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/documents/pd100549Step 2. where you need to slide keyboard frame. Its just do not move.
Is the hidden screw somewhere that needs to be removed first? UPDATE: Nevermind i got it now.

How to install keyboard to Lenovo T450s?

HI, I have 3 Thinkpad T450s that i need to change keyboard.When i follow this manual http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/documents/pd100549Step 2. where you need to slide keyboard frame. Its just do not move.
Is the hidden screw somewhere that needs to be removed first? UPDATE: Nevermind i got it now.

HI, I have 3 Thinkpad T450s that i need to change keyboard.When i follow this manual http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/documents/pd100549Step 2. where you need to slide keyboard frame. Its just do not move.
Is the hidden screw somewhere that needs to be removed first? UPDATE: Nevermind i got it now.

Thinkpad T400S (multitouch) Vs. MacBook Pro

Hello,
I am recently going to purchase a labtop (for work) and am undecided between the Lenovo T400 S (multitouch) and the Mac Book Pro.
Advantage Thinkpad (previous experience)
- My last past 3 laptops are Thinkpad (no defect what so ever)
- Reliable & Strong (I saw about 3 months ago my baby girl (2yrs) standing on the labtop, & it still works )
- Multiple OS (Windows and Linux) support
Advantage MacBook
- Sleek design (Beautiful)
- MAC OS + Other OS (Windows, Linux, Unix) Compatibility
- Presentations style are great
Both are very similar in price (MacBook Pro = Thinkpad +200$ )
Configuration for both are similar:
- solid state drive
- WiFi/WiMax
- processor very similar
MacBook advantage:
- wider screen
- led screen
- bigger solid state drive
T400S advantage:
- multitouch
Questions:
1. Can the T400S support Mac OS? How about Linux (Debian)?
2. How strong is the casing compared to MacBook Pro or other Thinkpad?
3. Multitouch compatibility with which OS (Windows, Linux, Unix, MacOS)?
4. What type of SW works with this multitouch? CAD applications? Google Earth? Office applications? Vi editor?
5. Can this labtop (in theory) run all these applications: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89sz8ExZndc
Thanks
Gus

1. It probably needs some work around to do so, but it is not natively supported out of the box.
2. Well you can drive a truck over it, and still relatively undamaged in the hdd, motherboard, etc.... LCD is cracked. Don't think you can do that on a macbook pro. Even dropping a macbook pro is not advisable since the hinge on every generation of Macbooks are so fragile, dropping them could cause the cable in these hinges to break.. oh there is not much adjustability in the Macbook Pro screen hinges, so it can go through the 180 degrees of movement like Thinkpads can.
Oh Macbook Pro have built in battery, and anyone whom ever use laptops and that knows, built in battery is headache, when you need to replace them. And from the past, you can't really when Apple products battery would decide to kick the bucket on you.
It also doesn't have docks. When Macbook Pro dies, it dies, whereas Thinkpads you can take it apart and service themselves relatively easily, and use various parts from other thinkpads to resurrect it. Bit like Frankenstein.
Thinkpad T400s isn't suppose to directly against Macbook Pro, since there are T400 and T500, W500 and W700 to do that.
T400s is basically a X301s with bigger screen, more expansion slots and dock connector (Macbooks don't have them).
Macbook Pro are well designed machines, but they are restrictive in terms of aftermarket parts, serviceability and upgradability. I would also say reliability with Macbook Pro past certain years of use are not great.
Regards,
Jin Li
May this year, be the year of 'DO'!
I am a volunteer, and not a paid staff of Lenovo or Microsoft

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