Thinkstation D10 Disk I/O

Hi, we have the funding to replace our current developer workstations which are currently Dell Precision 690's.
Two reasons:
the first is abysmal quality control issues we've had with these since receiving them, and
two, discovering that the integrated SAS controllers were complete dogs which were hindering our development with bottlenecks at the Disk I/O level when using RAID1. Our apps were slowing down by nearly a factor of 10 until we found that breaking the RAID array got us back (closer) to a speed we expected. It was pathetic to realize that Dual Duo-core2 Xeon processors were practically useless as far as speed and power when the disks were slowing everything down.
So the question before we jump ship from Dell to Levovo and leave one set of problems to invest in a different vendor of problems:
1) How can users here rate the quality control of Lenovo Thinkstations and service? We've used Thinkpads for years and I'm still fairly happy with them, but only have Dell experience when it comes to workstations and servers, so I want to hear about that.
2) What kind of disk I/O performance can I expect to see from the SAS controllers in the D10's? Are they integrated or PCI(e), etc. cards? Does read/write slow down if RAID1? Would we be better off using software raid? (saw that in many cases on the Dells). We develop database intensive apps, and it is most database access which suffers and kills us in the past, so we are looking for something where this will be solved. I don't suppose any benchmarks would help much, since it would be apples and oranges to me comparing them to the Dells, but any info might help.
Finally, what are the power requirements for a typical D10 w/ 2 E5450 processors, 16GB 2-3 drives? I'm guessing our existing APC 1500 UPS's should be plenty, but just covering all my bases.
Thanks for any input.
DW
Message Edited by DW on 12-29-2008 11:06 AM

welcome to the forum!
it sounds like you're looking to build a system spec'd almost exactly like mine, including the UPS.
disk I/O with the on-board LSI 1068E RAID controller depends entirely on file size. my primary array is built from two 300GB seagate drives in RAID 1. i typically get 125 MB/sec write and 243 MB/sec read speeds with larger files. small files don't write as quickly but still read quite well. i have an empty 73GB 15K SAS drive installed that i use purely as swap space for the OS and applications. this moves the random writes off of the primary RAID array and onto a dedicated drive. i don't believe in hashing an array more than necessary.
regarding quality control and service, i find little to complain about in the D10. after using thinkpads exclusively for over 13 years, i decided earlier this year to move over to a D10 as my main workhorse. to this day i have no regrets. build quality is excellent and interal layout is downright logical. support is backed by IBM's server team and i've had excellent luck with them so far. one of the DVD-R drives in my D10 was DOA and service overnighted a new one and called back a few days later to follow up.
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Thanks for any help forth coming
EH

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Ok i wanted to try this because this computer has to stand in an office, and i was looking for a more silent solution.
and since the L5420 only have 50W and the same performance as the 80W E5420, i expected them to be cooler.
So i could not sleep, looked trough the web and now have a theory.
as mentioned in another thread http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkStation/D10-high-cpu-temperature-72-C/m-p/1436115 the cpu and core temps are not absolute but subtracted from Tj max, that is not clearly specified.
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http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17936945
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the reference temperature of "core temp" and "openhardware monitor" are 100°C.
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this is also what matters for the fan cooling. If you use 4 pin coolers the speed should be variable, and its regulated by that distance to Tj max.
The interesting point is that the distance to Tj max is smaller for the L5420 (Right 3 entries)
So although the absolute temperature of the L5420 is lower then the E5420, the relative is higher, and so that in the end its fans spin louder as the E5420.
So probably fitting L54 series is a good idea for saving energy, but not a good idea for reducing noise.
In retrospect it also seems to make sense from a physical point of view, as lower absolute temperature, the temperature gradient with the ambient air for passive cooling is lower, it is a pitty that not only the power consumption was reduced, but also the maximum operating temperature.
Ok i will, get some thermal paste and make a crosscheck, swapping the fans, to rule out that different heatsinks effected the results. . And i will check if when the L5420 is installed alone the voltage will be maybe lower such that the relative temp will remain lower.

Install Red Hat on D10

Hi,
We want to install Red Hat Enterprise Linux on my thinkstation D10. When we select "Installation Method" -> "Local CDROM" we get the next screen "No driver found" and under "Select driver" none of the SATA options works. Red Hat CD #1 is in the DVD ROM driver.
So how do we get pass the drive menu? How to set the right drive to read from?
Patricia

Do you understand the difference between the source and binary package distribution? The days when it was a common task to rebuild the Linux kernel or any standard software are long gone and history. Please explain what you are trying to accomplish.

New D20, Windows 7/Vista can't see hard drives - also 2nd CPU questions

I just got a new D20 and aded a few 1TB Samsung hard drives to the WD one that came with it. I can see the drives fine in both the Marvell BIOS RAID setup utility (even ran a Verify Disk on them with no errors) and from the ThinkStation BIOS and even from a Linux-based utility that I used to partition and format them with. But neither Windows 7 RC nor Vista x64 Ultimate can see any of the drives and when I try to load drivers fro the driver CD that came with it, they aren't recognized or loaded. Probably there is a simply BIOS setting I've screwed up but it has me stumped. Any clues?
Also the machine came with one dual-core E5502 CPU. If I want to add a 2nd CPU does it also have to be the same as the 1st or can I add a quad-core E5504 or even a higher speed quad-core as long as it is a LGA1366? Does it have to be a Xeon or would an i7 work?
Many thanks in advance!
ThinkStations: D10, D20, and S20
ThinkCentres: S50, M51, A61e
ThinkPads: W520, X60T and X61T SXGA+ tablets

welcome to the forum!
sounds like that D20 arrived in one piece.
the latest marvell driver for vista 64 can be found here. i suggest trying that first to make sure this isn't a driver issue. also check that you have the intel chipset and matrix storage drivers installed. they can be found here.
check the BIOS and see if the AHCI mode is set to SATA RAID. i can't remember the exact path to this setting right now but can reboot and write it down if you get lost.
on the processor, the second one does have to match the first unless you replace the first completely and install two new chips. an i7 might work as a single processor in socket 0 (this is untested so i cannot confirm). however, you'll need two xeons if you want to run two physical processors.
i suggest reading the following links for reference:
Hardware Maintenance Manual
Processor Instructions
Heat sink
Hardware Replacement Guide
ThinkStation C20
ThinkPad X1C · X220 · X60T · s30 · 600

Find this BIOS Setting

"Pre-Desktop Authentication"
Someone in another forum said he was able to get Clonezilla to work once once he disabled this setting in his Lenovo M57e. Here is his original post:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/clonezilla/forums/forum/799287/topic/3344366
I realize his M57e is a ThinkCentre. Does anyone know the equivalent BIOS setting for a ThinkStation D10?
Solved!
Go to Solution.

under #5 (set passwords) you can remove the power-on password. you'll have to enter the old password, then a blank password twice by pressing 'enter'.
if all else fails you can clear the CMOS using the jumper at the bottom of the motherboard. move the jumper to the left, reboot, wait for the beeps, shut down, move it back, and boot as normal. this will clear all settings and passwords in the BIOS, returning it to factory state.
ThinkStation C20
ThinkPad X1C · X220 · X60T · s30 · 600

New Pb after install second processor

Good evening
I have a problem again after switching to dual processor machine.
I can not install my new apps - 3dsMax 2011 and Vue 8.5 -
The FrameWork not install or recognize an AMD 32 machine!
Anybody have an idea?
Thank you in advance
Franck
ThinkStation D10 bi Xeon - New bios - Windows vista 64 (not reinstalled after switching to dual processor)

PB after installing second processor in D10.
I have problems getting updates to install Windows or 3D applications. Is there a particular process for windows, a special framework?
In short, since installing the second processor, I do not feel like winning a lot of power but rather to have lost $ 400!
Someone has an idea?
Thank you in advance

What temperatures are acceptable for the CPU and Graphics card?

I have Intel Xeon X5400 series CPUs and a Nvidia graphics card.
It is interesting to monitor the temperatures but only if you know what temps matter...
What temperatures are acceptable for the CPU and Graphics card?
I was not sure if this is the document of choice for the CPU or not. I was not sure I was decifering it correctly either.
http://download.intel.com/design/xeon/datashts/318589.pdf
Any one know what we should be watching for as far as what is too hot?
I have a ThinkStation D10.
Did not see this in the user manual but could have missed it.

I found my specs:
Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5405 @ 2.00GHz
You are correct. An E series.
I was so focused on the upgrade to the X5420 that I forgot what the system came with.
So what should I set my sensor high value to on my sensor program that shows up on the panel (taskbar)?
For the E5405 or the X5420?
SIDE NOTE: where can I get 2 E5420s or better cheap?
Not ready to give up my filters just yet. I live in a dust factory!
My girl friend sews really nice bags but creates sewing dust and fuzz.
And well there are natural fibers everywhere...
So other than the the X5492 (150watts), the X5482, X5472, X5470, X5460, X5450 are all 120 watts.
Like the bulk of the X series...
The E5405, E5410, E5450, E5440, E5420, E5430, E5470, E5462, E5472 are all 80 watts.
The L series seems to all be 50 Watts.
For many the other Processors see this:
http://www.intel.com/products/processor/xeon5000/specifications.htm?iid=products_xeon5000+tab_specs
Message Edited by VitalBodies on 12-06-2008 08:46 PM
Message Edited by VitalBodies on 12-06-2008 09:03 PM

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