Third part Sales Question

Hi,
This is nothing related to configuration.
Just want to understand that in a third party sales order, when the 3rd party vendor delivers goods to the customer, then after that how does the delivering plant location knows that the 3rd party vendor has delivered complete / partial goods?
Does he send any kind of acknowledgement in the form of any document to the delivering plant and and after that only the delivering plant bills the customer?
Please let me know in case of any other information required?

Hi,
Thank you all for the answer.
As per GSL, "Once the third party vendor supplies the goods he intimates you".That is exactly what my question is.
Does the 3rd party intimation to the delivering plant comes in the form of any hardcopy and captured in the system .And if it is then which document is generated.Is it the GR that will be generated?
Secondly, as per Sivanand,"In cases of vendor sending the goods directly, there is an acknowledgement like POD sent from customer to you.". Do we need to have any special setting for POD in the item category or document type in the system for this?
Edited by: Christino Ronaldo on Sep 23, 2008 8:32 AM

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    We use a fairly standard Third Party process. We use the Item Category to drive the Schedule Line Category, which is flagged as Third-Party. On the Material Master (Purchasing view), the Material is flagged for Automatic PO, same on the Vendor Master. Workflow automatically kicks in on SO save to trigger the creation of the PO for the Purchase Req.
    Unfortunately, Workflow is a bit of a dark art to me, so I couldn't tell you what we have in place. My feeling is that it is bog standard though.
    Cheers, Paul.
    Edited by: Paul Read on Jun 29, 2009 9:41 AM

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