Third Party Backups

Hello,
Can you tell me if third party vendor software and scripts are managing and taking our Oracle Databases backups
will Oracle Support repair these backups if need ? or is the up to the third party vendor ?
Thanks,

It's ultimately going to depend on what the problem is. Typically, submitting an SR with Oracle will help determine if the problem is Oracle's or the 3rd party vendors.

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Oracle Third Party Backup tools

What are some third party backup programs that people are using with oracle these days? Also when using third party backup tools, do these tools shutdown the database while backing up? Does the Archive Log mode need to be enable as well? Not big on Oracle so simple answers would work.
thanks.

I wouls suggest to go with RMAN. it's best tool and free.....Best third party backup tool is BMC SQL Backtrack.

Third party backup software, how is the log sequence working?

Me and a colleague had a discussion about how third party software and full backups locally on the SQL works together.
If we use TSM that do full backups and then logbackups every hour in between for example.
If I between the two full backups from TSM accidently do a "non copy-only" full backup do I then also break the whole log sequence backup from then and untill the next TSM backup is?
Or can I use the full backup from my mistake and then take the log backups from TSM that occured after that fail and restore the database?
I guess this depends on the third party backup software, but in my mind it should work but according to him it doesn't.
Try to "paint" how I mean:
I = full TSM backup
- = log TSM
F = my fail backup full but not copy only.
I---F-------I
^ is where I would want to restore with both my full one and the logs from TSM. Hope you understand what I mean.

yes, you should be able to use the full backup taken in middle and use the rest of the log backups taken afterwards to restore the database.while I do not use TSM, we use QUEST(DELL) LITESPEED, that takes full backup once a day and log backups
every 15mins.
if someone accidentally takes full backup in the middle of day with out 'copy only',
log sequence will break and successive log backups depend on this full back up.
while this should be prevented from happening in first place, you can still restore from native full backup and then apply log backups taken from third party taken after the native Full backup.
if this happens, I would restore the FULLBACKP with NORECOVERY using NATIVE SQL and then use lite speed syntax to restore the log backups.Remember, native sql cannot read third party formatted backups(atleast litespeed), thats why I restore the full backup
using native sql, since it was taken with native sql backup and log backups using litespeed syntax.
Hope it Helps!!
Thanks, well it was just a theory discussion we had about the issue. But none of us could find info on the internet easy to prove our point :) Thanks.

Third party backup software support for dataguard configurations

Any Oracle document about the subject?
I would be interested in an answer about backupexec 2010 r2 in particular, because reading the manual for its oracle agent there is information about Oracle/RMAN and RAC support, but nothing about Dataguard integration, that could be a value added.
Anyone using third party backup agents in a Dataguard configuration?
Interested in version 11gR2 on Linux.
Thanks,
Gianluca

yes, you should be able to use the full backup taken in middle and use the rest of the log backups taken afterwards to restore the database.while I do not use TSM, we use QUEST(DELL) LITESPEED, that takes full backup once a day and log backups
every 15mins.
if someone accidentally takes full backup in the middle of day with out 'copy only',
log sequence will break and successive log backups depend on this full back up.
while this should be prevented from happening in first place, you can still restore from native full backup and then apply log backups taken from third party taken after the native Full backup.
if this happens, I would restore the FULLBACKP with NORECOVERY using NATIVE SQL and then use lite speed syntax to restore the log backups.Remember, native sql cannot read third party formatted backups(atleast litespeed), thats why I restore the full backup
using native sql, since it was taken with native sql backup and log backups using litespeed syntax.
Hope it Helps!!
Thanks, well it was just a theory discussion we had about the issue. But none of us could find info on the internet easy to prove our point :) Thanks.

Third-party backup software

Hello,
I have just read that you can restore Windows 2008 to a different hardware, like Windows 7.
I was wondering: Is there the need of third-party software anymore?. I mean, you just backup the whole system in a network share or a san volume or elsewhere (outside the 2008 box), and that is that, no Acronis anymore.
Am I missing something?. To me, it looks so great.
Thanks in advance!
Luis Olías Técnico/Admon Sistemas . Sevilla (España - Spain)

Hello Luis,
We can use bare metal restore process for windows server 2008 to restore it on dissimilar hardware.
Using inbuit windows backup admin console it is possible to restore windows 2008 or windows 7 on a different hardware, however for windows server 2008 you need to be cautious about the scsi/raid controller drivers.
For more information please look at the mentioned articles
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/249694/en-us
http://blogs.technet.com/b/sbs/archive/2010/06/11/how-to-perform-a-bare-metal-restore-on-small-business-server-2008.aspx
http://blogs.technet.com/b/sbs/archive/2008/11/03/introducing-sbs-2008-backup.aspx
Sincerely, Asifkhan -- Please mark my post helpful if it was really helpful to you.

Third party backup software help.

Hi!
I have zero computer skills and want to backup two virtual machines at my office. I created an Azure account and set up a backup schedule to a "backup container" at Microsoft. Went online and some said it is cheaper to store data in
a "storage container" as a BLOB, and will save $10. per month and will only cost $.024 per Gig. They recommended a third party like Cloudberry to configure the backup process and manage the storage. Does anyone (not affiliated with
the companys) have any advice on which product works well and is as idiot (me) proof as possible?

Hi,
You can use the Following link with the Video which guides you through on how to setup Cloudberry with you Azure account and setting up a storage account and container.
Once you have done that, you can follow the Backup wizard in Cloudberry to create the backup.
http://www.cloudberrylab.com/windows-azure-server-backup.aspx
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Nithin Rathnakar

Error with third party backup tool

Hello Experts,
We are using Veritas netbackup to take backups.
Veritas backup is showing error 6 after running 7 different successful streams and when I checked from SAP (DB12) it shows successful backup of the system.
Can you pls explain why netbackup is showing error 6?
Also what files exactly get copied in offline backup? Does it include redo log files>
Thanks in Advance.

Hi Federico,
This is what I've in the directory, I can't understand a single line.
/usr/openv/netbackup/logs/user_ops/dbext/logs
vxbsa.1256439632.19076.files.1         vxbsa.1256439632.19076.prog.2.pcb_std vxbsa.1256626673.19798.files.1
vxbsa.1256439632.19076.files.1.lock    vxbsa.1256439632.19076.prog.3.pcb_std vxbsa.1256626673.19798.files.1.lock
vxbsa.1256439632.19076.files.2         vxbsa.1256439632.19076.prog.4.pcb_std vxbsa.1256626673.19798.prog.pcb_std
vxbsa.1256439632.19076.files.2.lock    vxbsa.1256439632.19076.prog.5.pcb_std vxbsa.1256626745.19851.files.1
vxbsa.1256439632.19076.files.3         vxbsa.1256439632.19076.prog.6.pcb_std vxbsa.1256626745.19851.files.1.lock
vxbsa.1256439632.19076.files.3.lock    vxbsa.1256439632.19076.prog.pcb_std    vxbsa.1256626745.19851.prog.pcb_std
vxbsa.1256439632.19076.files.4         vxbsa.1256447583.24853.files.1         vxbsa.1256626818.20082.files.1
vxbsa.1256439632.19076.files.4.lock    vxbsa.1256447583.24853.files.1.lock    vxbsa.1256626818.20082.files.1.lock
vxbsa.1256439632.19076.files.5         vxbsa.1256447583.24853.prog.pcb_std    vxbsa.1256626818.20082.prog.pcb_std
vxbsa.1256439632.19076.files.5.lock    vxbsa.1256605195.4569.files.1          vxbsa.1256627131.20443.files.1
vxbsa.1256439632.19076.files.6         vxbsa.1256605195.4569.files.1.lock     vxbsa.1256627131.20443.files.1.lock
vxbsa.1256439632.19076.files.6.lock    vxbsa.1256605195.4569.prog.pcb_std     vxbsa.1256627131.20443.prog.pcb_std
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Third Party Backup

I would like to backup my LR 2.1 catalog using Retrospect as opposed to using the integrated backup feature of LR. What file(s) do I tell Retropsect to backup so as to ensure that I can easily recover from a crash/reinsatallation of Win XP? I am currently backing up the actual photo files but would like to be able to restore the LR catalog w/collections and so forth, as well.

Thanks, Eric. It would be great to know if we can change the default location for the Lightroom (catalog) folder, as well. I like to keep data on separate drive(s) from the OS and back up to an external HD (and DVD's for redundancy). As far as I can tell, LR won't allow for a change in the default catalog location, though. If I'm not mistaken, maybe a candidate for the next update?
I hear you on the corruption problems. Fortunately, the latest version of Retrospect (7.6) does allow one to keep as many backup sets as practical (without overwriting older versions) and also allows for a copy option as opposed to proprietary encrypted and compressed backup files. The primary reason for using Retropsect is that I can initiate a backup anytime without having to close and reopen LR. Also, I can schedule just one backup job for stuff I choose in addtion to LR, photos, etc. But it sounds like a good idea to stick with a weekly LR integrated backup as well for redundancy. The ability to change the default backup location (as opposed to the My Documents location) would be quite helpful, as well.
As a footnote, I have had bad luck using Acronis for data backups via Windows in the past. The program actually corrupted several random files but luckily I had used redundant backup methods which saved some serious heartburn. The program works very well when imaging and/or restoring an entire volume from a boot disk, though.

Can I use the third party software to backup my system?

I have bought a new Thinkpad, and I just want to backup my system, but Lenovo Onekey recovery is not easy to use. I confess that it is very concise and powerful. But, I have to say some disadvantage, that is, It need to press the button and shut all computer. I want to backup my computer silently, and the process won't affect my other operation. I have searched a software- AOMEI Onekey Recovery, but it is the third party software, should I use it to backup my system. there seems to be more powerful in their page http://www.backup-utility.com/onekey-recovery.html, how should I determine? could anyone tell me the advantage or disadvantage?

Can I use the new Time Capsule to backup my mid 2010 Macbook Pro?
Yes, if you are asking about using Time Machine to backup the Mac.
Also can I want to free up my hard disk, can I save my photos and files on the time capsule and later access through wifi?
You are not thinking of deleting the photos and files on your Mac, are you? If you do this, you will have no backups for those files.
Another concern is that Time Machine backs up the changes on your Mac. At some point, Time Machine will automatically delete the photos and files from the Time Capsule.....you just don't know when this might occur.
In other words, only delete files from your Mac that you can afford to lose.

What Third Party Software to Modify Time Machine Backup Schedule?

Hello -
I was hoping to get some suggestions to what third party tool to use that will allow me to change the timing of backups from the regular hour intervals. As far as I know that cannot be changed in Time Machine and am looking for suggestions of software that will allow me to modify the schedule.
Thanks in advance...

Katie 'OConnell wrote:
This may be so, but Time Machine DOES say that it will continue backing up files until the hard disk is FULL. That could be a problem if one doesn't have a massive HD that can be dedicated exclusively to this activity, nor tons of money to purchase extra HDs so that Time Machine can back up to its heart's content.
Frankly, I don't need hourly backups and would prefer to eliminate those altogether.
The hourly backups don't really add much space, since they're only kept for a day, but they do protect you better. If you back up less frequently, you can lose more when (not if) your internal HD fails, or something else awful happens to your Mac.
And there's a much better chance of recovering a previous version of a file that you change or delete in error (ever do "Save" instead of "Save As"?), or that somehow gets corrupted.
As noted on the Time Machine Preference window, after 24 hours, it keeps one backup per day (the first) for a month, then one per week as long as there's enough space. After that, it automatically deletes the oldest backup(s) to make room for new ones.
It varies widely, of course, depending on how you use your Mac, but Time Machine usually needs 2-3 times the space of the data it's backing-up to keep several months, or more, of backups.
By the way, if you're mixing other data with your backups, in the same partition, that's going to be a problem sooner or later, but it's easily avoided by partitioning it. See #3 in Time Machine - Frequently Asked Questions (or use the link in *User Tips* at the top of this forum).
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Third party software for iphone data backup

Hi,
Can you please suggest me a free third party software that could help me backup the data from my iphone and sync it back to a new laptop...
Regards,
D.Balaji

If you're talking about itunes content not purchased through itunes, this will do the trick:
http://www.wideanglesoftware.com/touchcopy/index.php
For purchased content: Store>Authorize this Computer, then File>Transfer Purchases.

HT201250 Third Party Apps With Time Machine Backup

My Retina MBP screen is ghosting so they might have to replace the whole computer. Will a Time Machine restore re-add my third party applications like Star Craft and Adobe Photoshop? or will I need to hunt down the discs and reinstall them manually

Time Machine backups the whole drive, so you don't have to reinstall the applications after you restore the backup, but you will probably need to insert a product key again

Third party application backup

Does the information I enter into a third party application get backup anywhere when I plug my Touch into my computer? I purchased mSecure to keep track of all of my user names and passwords, I've also purchased iXpenselt to keep track of my expenses but I decided its useless to use these applications unless the information I enter into them gets backed-up somewhere so that when and if my Touch crashes I won't have to manually re-enter everything.

I do apologize that none told you this but here is a KB that shows you what is backed up in the Palm Profile
http://kb.palm.com/wps/portal/kb/common/article/19388_en.html

Notes on third-party apps closing (not really crashing) after a restore

Hello,
I'm adding the umpteenth message about a problem that, after happening basically with each single iPhone change since my old iPhone 3G onwards, I would say it's pretty common.
I have solved this problem recently with a third sequence of actions, so I'm posting my brief "history of restores" for the benefit of others. I hope I've tagged this post eloquently enough to make it easy to find.
So, in most (if not all) cases of previous restores I've bumped in the classic issue where after the restore process (which, BTW, involves always a few more sudden phone restarts than expected) only the "native" iPhone apps run normally. All the others appear for an instant and then close. They don't really crash because both in iOS 6 and iOS 7 you can see them as "running" by double-tapping the iPhone front button. Moreover, those with active notifications will actually notify the user regularly. Their UI, though, doesn't go past the splash screen.
The underlying cause, also considering it relates only to apps downloaded via App Store, is presumably some DRM-related information that gets messed up during the restore process.
My personal experience included previously two distinct solutions, and each of those only worked in that occasion, i.e. has been useless in the other cases:
The oldest, and still most documented solution, was just to download, via iPhone, a new app from the app store. After a restart, or maybe even without one, the new app and all the others started working.
The second, less mentioned online but still pretty widespread, was to sign out from the Apple Store on the iPhone, and then sign back in.
This time, where I got a replacement for my iPhone 4s because of the common problem of the Wi-Fi/Bluetooth chip getting "burned" or dislodged, I tried both the solutions above but they didn't work. In the process, I've found other possible solutions that didn't work:
Deauthorizing iTunes on the Mac and then reauthorizing it.
Getting a new app via iTunes and then syncing the iPhone
Sign out/in with iCloud on the iPhone.
I was therefore close to abandoning my 877 apps already configured and organized in folders in the previous backups, and willing to accept the burden of setting up the iPhone as a new phone.
Nevertheless, I still hoped that a "mixed approach" would work and, indeed, it worked.
Here is the sequence that worked in my latest case:
Restore the iPhone as a new phone
Open the App Store on the iPhone and get a new app, not among those already downloaded previously
Open that app and see that it works (actually, after an iPhone replacement steps 1-3 would make sense anyway to check that the phone works properly)
Start a restore from a previous backup
As soon as the apps start syncing again, open the first app already sync'd and check that it works. It should work, that's what happened to me, and so you can wait the whole time required to sync back all the apps.
My experience involves also a falsification of the statement that the problem resides on individual backups. This is false because I've used the same backup, at step 4, that I selected before going through 1-3 and that was not working initially. Moreover, after step 5, I've realized that the old backup I had used was too old because yesterday evening, while I had my iPhone still misbehaving with third-party apps, I took a few pictures that would have gone lost using the old backup. I have then started again from step 4 with a backup from the night after the pics, when I was fiddling to fix my issues. Also the newer backup, clearly done while the apps where "bad", ended with all my apps working again.
Basically, once the "physical" phone runs third-party apps, than any backup would work. The (missing) authorization portion that causes the misbehaviour might be related to the phone IMEI, or some other piece of information that is not included in backups.
Does anyone know a specific thread here or blog post on some website where there is a collection of cases like mine?
I'm not looking forward to seeing what voodoo variation will be required the next time I replace my iPhone...
Hope this helps.
All the best,
Giovanni

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Is there a way to have MSOffice-Mac on my MacBook Air sync wirelessly (and non-manually) with iWork on my iPhone without a third-party app?

I purchased a MacBook Air after hearing that it can sync wirelessly with all iOS devices. I then purchased the iWork office for my college courses and found out that the school requires online students like me to use Microsoft Office for Mac. An Apple phone rep explained that this software syncs in read-only mode with the iPhone. Is there really no way - besides third party software like Dropbox, Windows Live SkyDrive, or Docs To Go - for me to sync my homework between iWork on my iPhone and MS Office my new MacBook?

Go through this article: How to back up your data and set up as a new device or do this:
Disable autosync in iTunes, connect your phone to your new computer and right click on it in the device list and choose backup. iTunes will backup your phone without syncing.
Transfer your purchases the same way, choosing "transfer purchases" this time.
When you connect your phone for the first time, all media content will be erased. But you can restore your settings and app data from your manual backup afterwards.
Don't forget to set up at least one contact and event on your new computer to be able to merge calendars and contacts when you sync the phone for the first time.
About backups and what's saved:http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1766
How to back up and restore:http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1414
How to download apps for free again:http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2519

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