Third party DVCPROHD Frame Rate Converter not showing up in tools.

How can I get a third party frame rate converter to appear in my FCP tools. I meet all system requirements... followed instructions. Not sure what is up. Any ideas?

Yeah, I downloaded it from the site onto an older G5 with an ATI 9600 in it. I could never get it to work. It showed up in the menu but couldn't actually select it.
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I cant seem to get my frame rate converter to work. I shot the footage on my hvx200 at 720p30 and then put it in film mode and changed the frame rate to 60. Then I log and transfered it into FCP and when i go to convert it i keep getting the same message.
www.okayyellow.com/errormessage.png
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All worked well last time I did this (late March), but upgraded to Leopard since then and brought all FCStudio apps up to date at the same time.
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Ok. I tried converting making sure that i didnt remove any frames on the import from the raw P2, as well as for the export. i tried all the combos of this. I still get the jumpy slow motion because of repeatyed frames. I did notice a combo in these repeated frames, it will play 3 of one frame, then 2 of another. could this be a pulldown problem somewhere?
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This comes from experience. And this is true for any editing system. You don't know that a "feature" doesn't work right until you find out yourself, or if you happen to work with someone who knows that "hey, that feature doesn't work right." I always did the self contained thing until I worked with another guy on a project. He started doing the REF thing and it seemed to streamline the production. Until it came time to lock the show and prep it for output. Then we had relinking issues. So we had to go back, make self contained files, link to those, then replace the REF ones in the sequence. And no, we won't do that again.
Before these forums this was something found out on the job from other editors. Or by yourself thru experience. But because you bring this up, not others who didn't know about this issue might be able to avoid it.
Now, I have a blog where I write about my experiences in editing, and share my pitfalls and successes so that this information can get out there. I was always frustrated with some feature or another on an Avid until I went to a company with 15 editors, and one of them goes "Oh, that? I figured out a way to do that..." and then they showed me. These forums are a GLOBAL way of sharing that information.
Until now, your issue really hadn't come up. And I will have to confess that I didn't blog about it. Dunno why, I should. But now many others will benefit from this experience. And if you hang out here daily, or even a couple days a week and read thru the posts, you will find all sorts of problems you can avoid.
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[EDIT]
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