Third party order issue
hi All
We need to have the 15 Inconsistency Delivery Block removed from the Sales Order.
There is a 3rd Party Order and has shipped & invoiced. However, it is still on a 15 Inconsistency Delivery Block. If we look at schedule line it shows 29 PL were confirmed and 27 PL were ordered. The original order was for 29 PL and the vendor acknowledged 29 PL. However, in Internal CSS Notes it looks like someone change the quantity from 29 PL to 27 PL. When the quantity change was made, the vendor should have acknowledged the new quantity, 27 PL. They did not confirm the new quantity so thatu2019s why the order is on a 15 inconsistency delivery block. Since the order has already shipped & invoiced, the vendor cannot re-acknowledge the new quantity. Please advise how we will be able to remove the block?
Thanks,
Prachi
hi,
When doing Miro , There is Tab on top named Messages. Click on it and assigned to your output type and enter communication method.
You ll be able to complete your MIRO.
Revert if not resolved
Regards
Amit Gupta
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7. Goods receipt MIGO
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9. The item cat TAS or Schedule line cat CS is not relevant for delivery which is evident from the config and, therefore, there is no delivery process attached in the whole process of Third party sales.
10. Billing *--
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1. Create Vendor XK01
2. Create Material – Material Type as "Trading Goods". Item category group as "BANS".
3. Assign Item Category TAS to Order type that you are going to use.
4. A sale order is created and when saved a PR is generated at the background
5. With reference to SO a PO is created (ME21N). The company raises PO to the vendor.
6. Vendor delivers the goods and raises bill to company. MM receives the invoice MIRO
7. Goods receipt MIGO
8. Goods issue
9. The item cat TAS or Schedule line cat CS is not relevant for delivery which is evident from the config and, therefore, there is no delivery process attached in the whole process of Third party sales.
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SD - 3rd party sales order Create Sales Order
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Toggle the "Assigned Purchase Requisition"
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2. MM01 general item category group is BANS
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4. schedule line detrnination should be TAS+NIl=CS
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7. wrt PO verndor supplies stock directly to ur customer
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Process Flow for 3rd Party Sales
Customize the third party sales in summary:
1. Create Vendor XK01
2. Create Material Material Type as "Trading Goods". Item category group as "BANS".
3. Assign Item Category TAS to Order type that you are going to use.
4. A sale order is created and when saved a PR is generated at the background
5. With reference to SO a PO is created (ME21N). The company raises PO to the vendor.
6. Vendor delivers the goods and raises bill to company. MM receives the invoice MIRO
7. Goods receipt MIGO
8. Goods issue
9. The item cat TAS or Schedule line cat CS is not relevant for delivery which is evident from the config and, therefore, there is no delivery process attached in the whole process of Third party sales.
10. Billing
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Enter
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Goto Item Overview
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Key in the PR number
Save
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Toggle the "Assigned Purchase Requisition"
Execute
Check the box next to the material
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Click on "Assignments" button
Click on "Process assignment"
The "Process Assignment Create PO" box , enter
Drag the PR and drop in the shopping basket
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Receive Goods
MIGO_GR
PO Number
DN Number
Batch tab , click on classification
Serial Numbers tab
Date of Production
Flag Item OK
Check, just in case
Post
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Invoice
MIRO
Invoice Date
Look for the PO , state the vendor and the Material
Check the box
Clilck on "Copy"
Purchase Order Number (bottom half of the screen)
Amount
State the baseline date
Simulate & Post
Invoice Number
*Invoice blocked due to date variance
SD - 3rd party sales order Create a delivery order
VL01N
In the order screen , go to the menu Sales Document , select "Deliver"
Go to "picking" tab
State the qty and save
SD - 3rd party sales order Create a billing document
VF01
Ensure that the delivery document is correct in the
Enter
Go to edit -> Log
Save
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Also understand how migo and miro are handled.
The item categories used.
How the company knows of the shipment of goods to the customer.
How returns are handled.
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Thanks & Regards
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