Third-party Order - purchase req's to SRM

Hi
We are using EBP 4.0
We are creating sales orders with item cat "Third Party Item", the purchase req's are created in R/3 but we have problems when we transfer the purch req's to SRM via BBP_EXTREQ_TRANSFER.
There is an errormessage in SMQ1 "<i>Partner not Found</i>". I have also checked SLG1 in SRM but there is no additonal info there.
I think the problem is related to the Customer (ship to), it looks like the Businnes Partner has to be created for that customer but I don't really understand how it works.
Any tip ?
Thx
Anders
PS we can transfer normal purchase req's created by MRP to SRM without problem.

Hi Andres,
I think this scenario is not supported by SRM. These requisitions will have eban-estkz = 'V' and there is a check iin the plugin routines which exclude these requisitions from going to SRM. It will be a modification to make this go through SRM and will not be supported.
I hope this helps.
Thanks and Regards,
Vani

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