Third-Party Payments & Purchase Orders

I wanted to inquire into any suggestions that anyone might have for recording third-party payments in Oracle Payables. What my company is looking to do is create purchase orders for the transactions of goods or services with a vendor (ie- ABC Company) and then record the corresponding payments to our bank (ie- XYZ Bank) instead. We will be initiating a new corporate credit card program and will be looking to pay various Payables invoices (that may or may not have purchase orders associated with them) with the new credit card program. Our Oracle version 11.5 does not support the third-party payments. Whatever vendor is selected for the purchase order is the vendor that would receive payment.
Does anyone know of any options or workarounds that we could use within Oracle to record the purchase order and payments to separate vendors in version 11.5? I know that version 12.1 has this functionality, but my company is not looking to upgrade at this point in time.
Thank you.
-Erik

Erik,
Boy, this is unusual. I would recommend opening a service request with Oracle support and see what they say. There is a credit card/procurement card process in EBS 11, but it is more of a workflow type of thing. Would not be tied in to purchase orders. That is the hard part. And to get a credit card invoice where some stuff is for matching to POs and some is for non-PO stuff. You might be better off making a PO a requirement for everything. Otherwise you might have a mess on your hands. Or you could revise your process to use the Oracle workflow process and require the appropriate approvals for paying the credit card bill items. That basically takes care of what purchase orders are doing for you, in requiring some kind of approval process. Something to think about.
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