Third party PO Process -Looking for better solutions

what would be best solution for the below business process
We have one corporate headquarters(A) which has 3 plants(Plants X,Y and Z).
Corp.HQ (A) deals negotiation with one supplier directly and buys the materials and responsible for the payment.
but the goods should be directly delivered to the plants ...not to Corp.HQ
At the same time the receiving plants,intern have to pay to the corp.HQ for the same.
I can think of 2 step process for this process
Step 1 : Creating Third party PO between Corp.HQ and Supplier
Step 2 : Creating a Stock transport order /Intercomp order between Corp.HQ and receiving plants
But is there any solution with Single step or any other better solution for this process?
Thanks in advance
Thanks and Regards,
Kesavan

The first step is not ok in my opinion, since the goods will be posted for consumption, so there will be no stock to be transferred via the intercompany STO (2nd step in your process).
In SAP it is possible to use central purchasing organisation. What if the HQ would be represented in the purchasing process as a central purch. org. and it would issue a "normal" PO to the vendor (one PO: vendor --> manufacturing plant)?
In this case you should solve the payment process only (HQ --> vendor; plant --> HQ) - if the HQ would be set as invoicing party in the PO, the payment between HQ and plant would be solved. In the vendor's SO the HQ should be set as payer/invoicing address, the HQ would receive the invoice and eneter it w/o any PO (but enter the real PO number as reference).
You would need some development to integrate the two incoming invoices not to have discrepancy.
Just an idea...

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Hi arun,
Process Flow for 3rd Party Sales
Customize the third party sales in summary:
1. Create Vendor XK01
2. Create Material Material Type as "Trading Goods". Item category group as "BANS".
3. Assign Item Category TAS to Order type that you are going to use.
4. A sale order is created and when saved a PR is generated at the background
5. With reference to SO a PO is created (ME21N). The company raises PO to the vendor.
6. Vendor delivers the goods and raises bill to company. MM receives the invoice MIRO
7. Goods receipt MIGO
8. Goods issue
9. The item cat TAS or Schedule line cat CS is not relevant for delivery which is evident from the config and,   therefore, there is no delivery process attached in the whole process of Third party sales.
10. Billing
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VA01
      Order Type
      Sales org, distr chnl, div
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MIGO_GR
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VL01N
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VF01
      Ensure that the delivery document is correct in the
      Enter
      Go to edit -> Log
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Pl. be clear on this process.
Also understand how migo and miro are handled.
The item categories used.
How the company knows of the shipment of goods to the customer.
How returns are handled.
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Thanks & Regards
Sadhu Kishore

User Exit for third party order processes.Missing in ECC 6.

Hi All,
There is a user exit EXIT_SAPLJ3AM_003 which exist in 4.6C version of SAP for AFS.
This user exit is for Third Party order processes. This is called within the include LJ3AMFD1 of the main program SAPLJ3AM.
But this User exit is missing in ECC version of SAP for AFS.
Could anyone please let me know how I can resolve this issue as I need this User exit for my requirement. Has SAP provided any enhancement spots for this?
I tried to search the enhancement spots and OSS notes but couldnu2019t get any useful information.
Please advice.
Thanks,
Ameesha

changed our requirement

Re : Third-Party Order Processing for Subcontracting ( Enhancement Pack 5)

Hi,
In Third-Party Order Processing for subcontracting - Purchase orders for products that are finished by a subcontractor and sent straight to the end customer. PR created in Sales system are processed further in this scenario where you direct your SC Vendor to send the material to your customer.
Although its a standard third party scenario with sub contracting job involved in it.
There is not much information we have in SAP help. This is ECC6 Enhancement pack 5 feature.
If any one has worked on this, I need a process flow to understand this process.
Response is apprecited,
Regards,
Dipak
Edited by: Dipak Kumar on Apr 13, 2011 6:43 AM
Any idea is appreciated?

Hi,
Here you can treat this two procedures are diffrent
For Contractor
Create P.O >> send semifinish goods to vendor
For sales Point
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Third Party Business Process Within Purchasing /IM(Without SD)

Hi Friends,
We are planning to implement third party order process within Purchasing to procure the office stationary materials for the business.
The problem here is how to deal with the materials returns to supplier after original invoice is processed?.
1. Requisition created
2. PO created in 30-Jan-2007
3. Material supplied and Goods Receipt done. in 31-Jan
4. Vendor submits invoice to Payable section and Invoice also processed
till 31st Jan-07
5. Now user would like to return the materials to vendor for wrong material or poor quality on <b>1st Feb</b>. Since invoice is already processed... how to account this returns in next invoice payment is the question.
I tried looking for the above business scenario(material returns) in various places, but no luck. Appreciate, if you could give me pdf relevant to above process or suggest possible solution.
Regards
KK

Hi Stev,
Many thanks for your prompt response. I do agree that this process should be done through normal PR/PO with account assignment for direct consumption's.
In my view, Third party through SD will have more advantage in billing the customer apart from vendor invoice. Without SD, we can still take the advantage of third Party process, in terns of user address management(mandatory) in the PR and analysis point of view. Conceptually they do serve the purpose more or less same within Purchasing without SD.
The problem here in the both the process is invoice processing, as huge amount of PR/PO will be raised for low value items ranging from $10 to $300. Vendor will be submitting the consolidated invoice by weekly or monthly. Since MIRO only provides PO creation date and not GR/Movements Posting date in the selection criteria, it would be quite difficult to include the GR reversals/returns, after the original invoice processed for the order created in previous period. Moreover, this will increase the workload on Accounts payables in entering invoices for small amount.
The above is the situation for explained case.
1. Invoice Processed for the Pur.Orders created in Jan-07(One inv against many po's)
2. Reversals/Returns of material taken place on 1st -Feb for the same order which is created and paid in Jan.
Only solution I could think of is to enable ERS and generate invoice GR based. This would cater for Invoice processing and credit memo for reversals/returns.
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Kumar

Third party customization process

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It's very urgent.
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/e6/4a6dc89e0311d189b70000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
THIRD PARTY SCENARIO
in third-party order processing, your company does not deliver the items requested by a customer. Instead, you pass the order along to a third-party vendor who then ships the goods directly to the customer and bills you. A sales order may consist partly or wholly of third-party items. Occasionally, you may need to let a vendor deliver items you would normally deliver yourself.
Process Flow
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Processing Third-Party Orders in Sales
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Automatic third-party order processing:-
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Manual third-party order processing
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If address data for the ship-to party is changed in the sales order in third-party business transactions, the changed data will automatically be passed on to purchase requisition and also to the purchase order ,if one already exists. In the purchase order, you can display the address data for the ship-to party in the attributes for the item.
You can only change the address data for the ship-to party in the sales order for third-party business transactions, and not in the purchase order.
Processing Third-Party Orders in Purchasing
when you save a sales order that contains one or more third-party items, the system automatically creates a purchase requisition in Purchasing. Each third-party item in a sales order automatically generates a corresponding purchase requisition item. During creation of the requisition, the system automatically determines a vendor for each requisition item. If a sales order item has more than one schedule line, the system creates a purchase requisition item for each schedule line.
Purchase orders are created from purchase requisitions in the usual way. For more information about creating purchase orders, see the Purchasing documentation. During creation of the purchase order, the system automatically copies the delivery address of your customer from the corresponding sales order. In a sales order, you can enter purchase order texts for each third-party item. When you create the corresponding purchase order, the texts are automatically copied into the purchase order. The number of the purchase order appears in the document flow information of the sales order.
All changes made in the purchase order are automatically made in the sales order as well. For example, if the vendor confirms quantities and delivery dates different from those you request and enters them in the purchase order, the revised data is automatically copied into the sales order
you process third-party items by creating a normal sales order. In overview for the order, you can then overwrite the default item category (TAN in the standard system) with the special item category for third-party items: TAS
Billing Third-Party Orders
If relevance for billing indicator for the item category has been set to B (relevant for order-related billing on the basis of the order quantity) in Customizing, the system includes the order in the billing due list immediately. If, however, the indicator has been set to F (relevant to order-related billing on the basis of the invoice quantity), the system does not include the order in the billing due list until an invoice from the vendor has been received and processed by the purchasing department. In the standard system, item category TAS (third-party order processing) has been given billing-relevance indicator F.
In the first case, the third-party order is considered to be completely billed only when the invoiced quantity equals the order quantity of the sales order item. In the second case, each time a vendor invoice is received, a customer invoice is created for the quantity in the vendor invoice and the order is considered to be fully invoiced until the next vendor invoice is received.
If you have activated billing-relevance indicator F for item categories in Customizing, billing can refer to the goods receipt quantity instead of the incoming invoice quantity.
You can control whether the invoice receipt quantity or the quantity of goods received is relevant for billing in Customizing for copying control for billing at item level.
FOR YOUR PROCESS Individual Purchase Orders WELL GIVE THE RIGHT SOLUTION
Individual purchase orders are used when your customer orders goods from you that are not in stock and must be ordered from one or more external vendors.
Process Flow
During sales order entry, the system automatically creates a purchase requisition item. The purchasing department creates a purchase order based on the requisition and the vendor ships the goods directly to you (unlike third party order processing, where the vendor ships directly to your customer). You then ship the goods to your customer. While the goods are part of your inventory, you manage them as part of the sales order stock. Sales order stock consists of stock that is assigned to specific sales orders and cannot be used for other purposes.
Process Flow for 3rd Party Sales
Customize the third party sales in summary:
Prerequisites for 3rd party sales,
Purchasing org,
purchasing group,
assign the Purchase org to company code
assign Purchase org to plant,
should not maintain the stock in material, it should be trading goods,
1. Create Vendor XK01
2. Create Material Material Type as "Trading Goods". Item category group as "BANS".
3. Assign Item Category TAS to Order type that you are going to use.
4. A sale order is created and when saved a PR is generated at the background
5. With reference to SO a PO is created (ME21N). The company raises PO to the vendor.
6. Vendor delivers the goods and raises bill to company. MM receives the invoice MIRO
7. Goods receipt MIGO
8. Goods issue
9. The item cat TAS or Schedule line cat CS is not relevant for delivery which is evident from the config and, therefore, there is no delivery process attached in the whole process of Third party sales.
10. Billing *--
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Sales Order
VA01
Order Type
Sales org, distr chnl, div
Enter
Sold to
PO #
Material
Quantity
Enter
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SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created with a third party sales order
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Order Number
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Item ->Schedule Item
SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created
ME52N
Key in the PR number
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Assign the PR to the vendor and create PO
ME57
Key in the PR number
Toggle the "Assigned Purchase Requisition"
Execute
Check the box next to the material
Assign Automatically button
Click on "Assignments" button
Click on "Process assignment"
The "Process Assignment Create PO" box , enter
Drag the PR and drop in the shopping basket
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Receive Goods
MIGO_GR
PO Number
DN Number
Batch tab , click on classification
Serial Numbers tab
Date of Production
Flag Item OK
Check, just in case
Post
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Invoice
MIRO
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Look for the PO , state the vendor and the Material
Check the box
Click on "Copy"
Purchase Order Number (bottom half of the screen)
Amount
State the baseline date
Simulate & Post
Invoice Number
*Invoice blocked due to date variance
SD - 3rd party sales order Create a delivery order
VL01N
In the order screen , go to the menu Sales Document , select "Deliver"
Go to "picking" tab
State the qty and save
SD - 3rd party sales order Create a billing document
VF01
Ensure that the delivery document is correct in the
Enter
Go to edit -> Log
Save
rewards if it helps

Reg Third party order processing.

Hi Gurus,
Please help me on the following questions.
1. In third party order processing how costing is updated?
2. How automatic purchase requisition will be generated in third party order processing?
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Regards,
Vamsi P

HI vamsi
Customize the third party sales in summary:
1. Create Vendor XK01
2. Create Material Material Type as "Trading Goods". Item category group as "BANS".
3. Assign Item Category TAS to Order type that you are going to use.
4. A sale order is created and when saved a PR is generated at the background
5. With reference to SO a PO is created (ME21N). The company raises PO to the vendor.
6. Vendor delivers the goods and raises bill to company. MM receives the invoice MIRO
7. Goods receipt MIGO
8. Goods issue
9. The item cat TAS or Schedule line cat CS is not relevant for delivery which is evident from the config and,   therefore, there is no delivery process attached in the whole process of Third party sales.
10. Billing      *--
In Details:----
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Sales Order
VA01
      Order Type
      Sales org, distr chnl, div
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      Quantity
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      Save
SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created with a third party sales order
VA01
      Order Number
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      Item ->Schedule Item
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      Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Assign the PR to the vendor and create PO
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      Toggle the "Assigned Purchase Requisition"
      Execute
      Check the box next to the material
      Assign Automatically button
      Click on "Assignments" button
      Click on "Process assignment"
      The "Process Assignment Create PO" box , enter
      Drag the PR and drop in the shopping basket
      Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Receive Goods
MIGO_GR
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      Date of Production
      Flag Item OK
      Check, just in case
      Post
      Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Invoice
MIRO
      Invoice Date
      Look for the PO , state the vendor and the Material
      Check the box
      Clilck on "Copy"
      Purchase Order Number (bottom half of the screen)
      Amount
      State the baseline date
      Simulate & Post
      Invoice Number
      *Invoice blocked due to date variance
SD - 3rd party sales order Create a delivery order
VL01N
      In the order screen , go to the menu Sales Document , select "Deliver"
      Go to "picking" tab
      State the qty and save
SD - 3rd party sales order Create a billing document
VF01
      Ensure that the delivery document is correct in the
      Enter
      Go to edit -> Log
      Save
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Regards,
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Third party order processing with Scheduling agreements

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You refer the Sales order for creating the Billing document to the end customer
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Buy the way it is just in the IDES system,and the data is the std.
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You ll be able to complete your MIRO.
Revert if not resolved
Regards
Amit Gupta

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In Third Party Order processing , system creates single Purchase requisition for the all line items in the Sales order. Our requirement is to create individual PR for each line item in the sales order. For Example , if the sales order is having two lines items (10 and 20) with item category TAS, system should create two purchase requisition against line 10 and 20. Is there any customization available to control this ? if not how can we achieve this functionality.
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With regards,
Joseph Anand B

Joseph,
1. First you need to maintain ZTA1 and ZTA2 two item categories.( Replica of TAS)
2. Proceed with Item category determination for ZTA1 and Keep ZTA2 as Manual Item Category both the item category should have same details.
3. Proceed Creating Schedule line categories ZTA1 + MRP type = C1 (Replica of CS - LEG)
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save the document.
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